Thomas Markle very ill

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I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

He’s also technically savvy enough to contact the daily Mail.

Where is the insane? This seems to be correct and I have the same sentiments that it’s a sad situation

I think it’s simply about paying his medical bills. His son has said he hasn’t got the money to pay them and is thinking about starting a ‘go fund me’ to pay for everything. I assume he will need a carer to help when he gets home too. His son seems to help him a lot and perhaps feels he is out of his depth now. It’s possible his son contacted the journalist . Samantha was the one who encouraged him to get photos taken during the engagement. Sadly he seems to be influenced by them both and neither are very nice people who probably don’t have his best interests at heart.

And yet you “imagine” it is very difficult for her to hear of her father’s illness, so you feel able to project feelings onto her which you don’t know she has. You don’t know she was “forced” to issue a press release, just that she did.

The Daily Mail doesn’t have exclusive rights or sources with regard to the Mountbatten Windsors, feel free to look at other news outlets where you will find they are also covered.

Just because someone has a different opinion doesn’t mean they are insane .
I think you should apologise to that poster .

I think most of the people on here should apologise for making such toxic posts constantly for years on end about Meghan but they won’t.

Suggesting Meghan has somehow timed her show with a story that appears in the press two days ago is totally ridiculous and it really just goes to show how far the posters on here will reach to slag her off.

What so she planned the release of her show - not the producers of the show. Of course. Ffs. So ridiculous.

The poster didn’t say she planned the release of the show (I totally agree, that would just be factually wrong).

No, they’re saying she’s a hypocrite talking about Christmas and family values whilst her and her H are both estranged from everyone for no reason.

I shall send a hand written note to the Harkles right now!

Do you have a template I could borrow please ? My calligraphy skills are poor .

Another oh please is coming. Oh please. If anyone should be apologising it should be H and M to the general public for their ridiculous behaviour.

They’ll have their reasons whether you do or would agree with them or not. Families can be really complicated, lots of history. When deciding what to do about my own family, I saw a therapist who said most people that are estranged or have cut people out of their lives, it’s usually been a build up of things over many years. To say they have ‘no reason’ is really dismissive, but it’s certainly something my own family, who I have valid reasons for cutting off would say if asked what my reasons were,

I'm not sure how much Thomas Markle Snr is directing things just now.

He's had a heart attack and a stroke. Both those things can affect cognitive abilities. He's just had a major DVT causing what sounds like gangrene and early stage sepsis. He's had an amputation under GA and been in ICU. At his age a degree of post op delirium is not uncommon.

It sounds like the DM journalist has been keeping an eye on him. I'm not sure who did the contacting - but I doubt Markle Snr has been co-ordinating things independently. He seems to me to be easily influenced by those around him. Those people currently are his son, daughter Samantha (indirectly) and a DM journalist. All of whom have their own (monetary) motives.

I don't know how this will ever get resolved, but trying to do it via email or phone is not going to work for Meghan. She may not want to visit personally (& who could blame her), but IMO Markle Snr appears to have always been someone who is far easier to manage when it's done f2f. (In the same way Trump is described as a settee - he takes the shape of the last person who sat on him). He'll do what the person in the room with him at the time tells him to. Which is why I think the basic error was not bringing him over to the UK in the weeks before the wedding.

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They’ve told us their reasons, and there’s no substance there.

The fact that they’re both estranged…

Harry has no contact with Charles’ side, and seemingly not with Diana’s either. We’ve never seen Meg’s maternal family members other than one, her mum, who didn’t even raise her for most her life. Her Dad’s side is cut off.

These people (on every side) can’t all have wronged them to the point of estrangement. At some point you have to look at the common denominator. It’s dysfunctional.

And I do have sympathy, in that it’s not easy to reestablish contact (like with H wanting to reconcile).

They seem to think they play no role in anything.

The Daily Mail doesn’t have exclusive rights or sources with regard to the Mountbatten Windsors ...

TBH I'm surprised H, M and her father have been in touch with them at all, @Ohpleeeease, given their history with the rag

Then again I was surprised they granted CBS/Oprah the infamous interview after some of the things they too have produced, but clearly their principles vary according to what benefit's to be had

Harry has no contact with Charles’ side, and seemingly not with Diana’s either

How do you know that?
The general public are not party to every text WhatsApp email or letter that Harry, the royals or Harry's family send

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No substance there….in your opinion. Her father and siblings seem like a nightmare to me. Or do you think they seem normal, loving, loyal? Maybe if you think they are, then that explains why you don’t see them as a problematic. I assure you that their behaviour is far from normal. Meghan may have played a part too, I wouldn’t say she hasn’t as I have no idea, but there really is no defending her father and siblings either on the things we know they have said and done. They’re like something from Jeremy Kyle.

I don’t have any contact with my family due to my father abusing me. My mother disbelieved me when I told her. Other family believed my father, apart from a few, but they have sadly now died. My partner has no contact with his family due to their their treatment of our children, the fact they’re racist, that they drink drive, are homophobic etc. He has very low contact with one sibling only, because they all didn’t want to fall out with his parents because his parents are rich. No sane person would dispute we are both right to be estranged, yet our families and some of those who don’t know the full story, have said must be us, because we don’t speak to both sides. It really isn’t.

They could probably have both remained in contact with their families if they would have let stuff go, but to them, the selling photos, comments about skin colour etc obviously became too much. Although it seems Harry would like to be in contact with his father, maybe others, he was and maybe still is. We really don’t know it all.

Gone are the days where people feel the same pressure as they once did to stay in contact with families just because they’re family and that’s often a good thing.

Anyway, I’m not arguing for Meghan and Harry, you’ll see from previous comments that I don’t have a high opinion of them, just that there will undoubtedly be more to it than we know, but I can understand their reasons that are out there. I can also understand the Royals not wanting Harry back in the fold after everything. How could they ever trust him? Just like how could Meghan ever trust her father again after he has sold photos and spoke to to the press. They’re all out for themselves, it’s a circus and I think they’re all attention seekers,

You are horrid.

Thomas Markle is broke and his only asset is his relationship to Meghan (and the RF) which he’s using to make money

Ditto Meghan’s only asset is her relationship to the RF and she is also using it to make money,

Meghan didn’t sign or create anything as ‘former suits actress’ but as HRH Duchess….’

The whole thing is like Andrew and Fergie on steroids

How is this horrid - turns out it was a very accurate prediction of H&Ms behaviour as events have unfolded over the last week…

@YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDownlike you, I have an estrangement from one side due to abuse. No same person disputes circumstances like that.

Im sorry, but basically cutting off both sides of the family, plus in-laws isn’t normal. The Markle siblings seem a bit unhinged, and it’s not really fair on Thomas Markle because it’s driving a wedge . But that’s still not a reason to cut off your dad, it’s not reasonable to expect him to cut off his other children either.

But if there was a smoking gun, we’d have heard it. Harry rowed back on the racism accusations. They never stated what was actually said in the first place, all we had was oprahs dramatic reaction which made it seem like more than it really was. Fuck me, she was a terrible interviewer.

Anyway, I’ve had black and white family members comment on my baby’s skin colour. It could be racism but it’s also fairly normal when two people who look very different have a baby, for people to have questions. They told us nothing at all

It’s their life at the end of the day, but I bet a Harry in particular will regret it massively when the king eventually passes away.

The whole thing is like Andrew and Fergie on steroids

Its a nightmare but Meghan and Harry don’t deserve being compared to someone who raped a girl and people who associated with sex traffickers.

I’ve just told you it’s happened in our family on both sides, and what definitely wouldn’t have been normal would have been for us to continue a relationship with the our families.

Comments on skin colour aren’t necessarily racism, but ‘concern’ about skin colour is racism.

Maybe he’ll regret what he’s done, who knows.