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Anyone excited for the final season of Succession? *Spoiler alert*

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Blondbombsite · 02/03/2023 17:52

The trailer has just been released and I can’t wait!

It’s probably my favourite programme atm so it’s a shame it’s ending but I’d rather that than it getting repetitive and dragged out.

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MayIDestroyYou · 18/04/2023 17:43

Hmm … Thing is, while I was watching the episode I wondered whether, off-screen, Frank and Karl (definitely not Gerri …) might not have surreptitiously altered or faked a second piece of paper - because they really, really didn’t like what was on the original ‘princess’ document. The underlining / crossing out of Kendall’s name would merely sow confusion and uncertainty, keeping the old guard secure.

However - they will be found out eventually because of the CCTV Tom joked about in Ep1. Just as everyone laughed about Bridget but it wasn’t funny when the same thing happened to Kerry. Honestly I believe everything played for fun in Ep1 was foreshadowing of something more serious to come.

That was my theory. But no one else seems to be thinking that way - so perhaps I’m wrong.

tribpot · 18/04/2023 17:50

I don't think they can have faked a document unless they did it after Gerri had joined them, as there wasn't time. And if so, it would have been safer just to destroy the one that existed and claim ignorance.

IClaudine · 18/04/2023 18:11

MayIDestroyYou · 18/04/2023 17:43

Hmm … Thing is, while I was watching the episode I wondered whether, off-screen, Frank and Karl (definitely not Gerri …) might not have surreptitiously altered or faked a second piece of paper - because they really, really didn’t like what was on the original ‘princess’ document. The underlining / crossing out of Kendall’s name would merely sow confusion and uncertainty, keeping the old guard secure.

However - they will be found out eventually because of the CCTV Tom joked about in Ep1. Just as everyone laughed about Bridget but it wasn’t funny when the same thing happened to Kerry. Honestly I believe everything played for fun in Ep1 was foreshadowing of something more serious to come.

That was my theory. But no one else seems to be thinking that way - so perhaps I’m wrong.

I love this theory. Is it possible Kerry knew where the paper was and that is why she was so desperate to get upstairs? Is the library upstairs?

IClaudine · 18/04/2023 18:13

Did they say they found it in Logan's desk? Or was it the safe? Are both upstairs?

tribpot · 18/04/2023 18:14

It was in his private safe, in his office. Definitely upstairs.

MayIDestroyYou · 18/04/2023 18:15

Unless … Frank created it and then ’found it’, as executor, and showed it to Karl. All his outrage could have been fake. As we know, Frank is the only one who gives a fig for Kendall - maybe he’d think Kendall the most bendable. (Not sure I believe any of this, just speculating!)

tribpot · 18/04/2023 18:23

I can't think that Frank would have put 'Greg?' on it, although if he hadn't it would have deprived us of Greg trying to make out 'it wasn't that kind of question mark'.

IClaudine · 18/04/2023 18:29

Something more is definitely going to happen with Kerry. We haven't seen the last of her. Roman asked for her number, probably because he wants to have a blow by blow account of Logan's final hours. Maybe he will find out that his message indirectly or directly gave Logan a PE!

MayIDestroyYou · 18/04/2023 18:31

Kerry and Kendall both begin with K …

Who’s more ‘princess-y?

(I appreciated the observation above - forget who made it - that Roman pretends to be hard-hearted but is actually a bit of a softy, whereas Mr Touchy-Feely-Therapy-Guru Kendall is actually a ruthless tearer out of throats who only pretends it’s all causing him pain. Or perhaps he enjoys the pain it causes him?)

givememarmite · 18/04/2023 19:37

I can't imagine Logan would have wanted Kerry as CEO, he wasn't impressed with her interview tape and wanted Tom to let her down re that role...but I do think there was something she wanted to get from upstairs, some kind of proof their relationship was more serious.

I agree re the phone falling/being thrown in the toilet after Logan listening to Roman's message...that was my first thought when Tom told Greg that. Sure Roman will want a conversation with Kerry to find out exactly what happened.

blahblahblahandblahsomemore · 19/04/2023 06:40

Re Shiv and when her and Tom first met I thought her and Nate had recently split and she’d come out of a rough break up with him? Nate refers to Tom as ‘basic’ and is quite disparaging about him so it could be she went with Tom because he was easy and probably pretty doting at the start?

Also hoping Euan comes back at some point? Seems unlikely he won’t as Succession doesn’t usually leave loose ends. He did seem keen on Marcia as she invited him over for Thanksgiving in season 1 and they seemed to get on well then.

I don’t think Kerry will feature much more now as her rise and fall was totally dependent on Logan and now he’s gone and Marcia is back she doesn’t have any allies (except maybe Roman but he’s never been very reliable). Marcia is such a great character.

IClaudine · 19/04/2023 10:13

Anyone fancy clubbing together to buy this? 😅

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/19/kendall-roy-penthouse-succession-apartment-listing

tribpot · 19/04/2023 10:26

Looks fabulous, doesn't it? It has 5 bedrooms so we can take it turn in groups of 5 to occupy it.

EachandEveryone · 20/04/2023 10:42

im assuming the actors rl pregnancy is now being included? Will she be a better parent that her own? Is it the other fellas baby?

MayIDestroyYou · 20/04/2023 11:08

Unless they do a time jump (which could happen, à la House of the Dragon!) we’re unlikely ever to see what sort of parent Shiv makes. This season so far is concentrated on such a tiny number of hours / days.

EachandEveryone · 20/04/2023 12:35

I’m just thinking out loud. The writer wanted to do an off shoot you know but the company wouldn’t entertain it🙁

user1471543094 · 20/04/2023 16:23

The piece of paper that they found...was it like a codicil to his real will? I find it hard to believe that someone like Logan would not have some sort of will in place that would deal with the bulk of his estate? Perhaps not specifying wishes for the take over of the company which I am sure was a fluid thought process but for bequests like the watch to Colin?

Had Frank etc already had sight of the real will and focused on this as it dealt with the company?

Greg's grandfather was certainly quick to hold his will drafting over him. I would have thought Logan would also be as prepared.

Blondbombsite · 20/04/2023 16:34

user1471543094 · 20/04/2023 16:23

The piece of paper that they found...was it like a codicil to his real will? I find it hard to believe that someone like Logan would not have some sort of will in place that would deal with the bulk of his estate? Perhaps not specifying wishes for the take over of the company which I am sure was a fluid thought process but for bequests like the watch to Colin?

Had Frank etc already had sight of the real will and focused on this as it dealt with the company?

Greg's grandfather was certainly quick to hold his will drafting over him. I would have thought Logan would also be as prepared.

Yes I think there’s a formal will and I imagine from the way she was behaving that Marcia has been well provided for, including the townhouse.

I think the document was more a series of things Logan was thinking about adding to the will. I don’t think it was a finalised wish, hence the question marks and lack of date.

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MayIDestroyYou · 20/04/2023 11:08

Unless they do a time jump (which could happen, à la House of the Dragon!) we’re unlikely ever to see what sort of parent Shiv makes. This season so far is concentrated on such a tiny number of hours / days.

Sorry I’m not sure what you mean? Jessie Armstrong wanted to do an offshoot?

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user1471543094 · 20/04/2023 16:37

Sorry just realised I had read the screenshot of the will somewhere else. It refers to Executors and additions so there must be another will. But as this is the paper that deals with the CEO query, then this is where the interest lies.
Ignore my question.

Below is the supposed contents of the page if you are interested.

To my executors and family,

The following is a record of additions and clarifications to be added to my official letter of wishes in the event of my passing:

I have created this record to provide my executor and family with information they will need after my death. It includes financial and personal information that will be needed to settle certain affairs … preferences and suggestions for arrangements that must be made. I hope this record will help make a difficult time easier for my family.

It is my preference that the title and role of CEO should be bestowed upon my son, K͟e͟n͟d͟a͟l͟l͟ L͟o͟g̲a͟n͟ R̶o̶y̶

Regarding my funeral arrangements: my funeral and burial are to take place in accordance with the customs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church.

My preferred hymns:

Amazing Grace, Abide With Me, Here I Am, Lord, I Watch the Sunrise Lighting the Sky, The Lord’s My Shepard (Psalm 23)

I wish to be buried with the attached copy of my sister Rose’s photograph placed in … and one of my wife, Marcia in my right hand chest pocket.

I would like to change the epitaph on my headstone from that set out in my …

| “Truthful lips, endure forever, the lying tongue lasts only a moment.” Proverbs 12:19. | ★

Leave my head of security, Colin Stiles, my Rolex Daytona Lapis …

Regarding personal assets, include the following: I advise that … should remain in a secured facility indefinitely, and … family … unnecessary financial complications … collection of Impressionism paintings and … Switzerland.

Sincerely yours, Logan Roy.

EachandEveryone · 20/04/2023 18:11

It was in an interview, he was hoping to write a show following one of the children but got knocked back.

Blondbombsite · 20/04/2023 18:36

EachandEveryone · 20/04/2023 18:11

It was in an interview, he was hoping to write a show following one of the children but got knocked back.

I think it will be best to just leave it. All of my favourite programmes have finished after a limited run and have had a clear vision and proper ending rather than just dragging on and on.

This isn’t my prediction but would it be possible that all of the proposed deals go ahead and then each sibling (minus the first pancake) could have a piece of the pie. Shiv could take Pearce, Kendall- Waystar and Roman has the carved out ATN?

I still think someone will come out on top but it will be a hollow victory.

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IClaudine · 20/04/2023 19:37

Life imitating art? This reminds me of Roman's rocket. Thankfully no one was hurt. Rich boys and their toys, why not spend the money on something a bit more useful?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65334810