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Happy Valley Series 3 - BBC1 9pm started 1 January 2023 - no spoilers - tv pace – thread 2

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IwantToRetire · 12/01/2023 23:31

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LindorDoubleChoc · 16/01/2023 13:48

What is the PE teacher grooming boys for? It's not sex, I think he was taunted about his affair with Mrs Oats in Ep 1 just to underline that he's heterosexual.

He is in the drugs gang. He is grooming the drugs sellers in the county lines tradition. Mark my words 😉

MetaDaughter · 16/01/2023 13:48

Suppose it depends if they’re reading glasses or bifocals!

Threadkillacilla · 16/01/2023 13:55

LindorDoubleChoc · 16/01/2023 13:48

What is the PE teacher grooming boys for? It's not sex, I think he was taunted about his affair with Mrs Oats in Ep 1 just to underline that he's heterosexual.

He is in the drugs gang. He is grooming the drugs sellers in the county lines tradition. Mark my words 😉

I thought this but would he have reported Jo?

DashingWhiteSergeant · 16/01/2023 13:59

SausageInCider · 16/01/2023 06:26

I can’t help but get annoyed with Catherine. Her long moody silences and quiet distant voice when someone pisses her off must be absolute hell to live with. I don’t think Claire is weak at all, I think she’s scared of Catherine and her reactions so she sneaks around behind her back to support her nephew. Catherine’s behaviour over the years has everyone walking on eggshells around her.

Claire has been the only consistent source of love for Ryan, she’s warm and caring to Catherine’s icy cold anger especially in the earlier series when poor little Ryan (who didn’t ask to be born) upset Catherine and Claire was in his room comforting him. Claire doesn’t resent Ryan for being born in the same way Catherine did. Catherine might have her reasons for acting like that but she doesn’t act like she loves Ryan fiercely - she just wants people to do what she wants.

I adore siobhan finneran and she can do no wrong.

Doesn’t Claire say in episode three she loves Ryan even more than she loves Catherine?

WouldJudasLeaveIt · 16/01/2023 14:02

No she said "Nobody means more to me than you" (meaning Catherine).

MrsDoylesApron · 16/01/2023 14:04

MetaDaughter · 16/01/2023 13:48

Suppose it depends if they’re reading glasses or bifocals!

Right. Will check iPlayer later to see if they are bifocals. I'm not spending too much time thinking about this. Oh no, not at all ..

storminabuttercup · 16/01/2023 14:04

Has there ever been a big reveal though? Lots of these theories rely on a LOD style who dunnit? Doesn't feel like that would in HV?

DashingWhiteSergeant · 16/01/2023 14:06

Btw how does the horrible teacher afford that house and an Audi?

WouldJudasLeaveIt · 16/01/2023 14:13

I really hope there's not a LoD mole type story.

QueenSmartypants · 16/01/2023 14:17

DashingWhiteSergeant · 16/01/2023 14:06

Btw how does the horrible teacher afford that house and an Audi?

The house is one thing but lots of men get themselves audis for the status, usually on finance.

the80sweregreat · 16/01/2023 14:27

The alien life form liaison officer
A.L..L.O application !!
Very clever.

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/01/2023 14:27

Threadkillacilla · 16/01/2023 13:04

Remember in s2 they had a bit of a row after a night out, she bought Catherine a cactus after?

Rings a vague bell.

I may rewatch s1&2

as will be sitting on bum next two weeks with ankle in a cast so nothing else to do

i rewatched s2 e6 to refresh

TwoDrifters2 · 16/01/2023 14:28

We rewound that bit twice and then rewatched with subtitles because I could have sworn she said: “No, but he means more to me than you”. I was so confused until I realised she’d said: “Nobody…”

TwoDrifters2 · 16/01/2023 14:29

Sorry that should have been for @DashingWhiteSergeant and @WouldJudasLeaveIt

WouldJudasLeaveIt · 16/01/2023 14:33

Me too *TwoDrifters, I was convinced she had said it about Ryan until subtitles.

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/01/2023 14:37

And why can’t she punch him. He hit her first

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/01/2023 14:42

And reg number was right

Tho the O looks more like a D to me but I'm semi blind anyway

Oe64 opl

Happy Valley Series 3 - BBC1 9pm started 1 January 2023 - no spoilers - tv pace – thread 2
JaneJeffer · 16/01/2023 14:45

That's a 5 isn't it?

ilovebrie8 · 16/01/2023 14:47

did someone do a link/synopsis of the previous 2 series....am sure that I saw it on here somehwere! i'd like to refresh my memory as it's been so long and I am forgetting stuff...old age !! thanks

Emotionalsupportviper · 16/01/2023 15:01

EmilyDickinson · 15/01/2023 22:34

I think that because Claire used to be an addict, works with addicts and is in a relationship with someone who is a recovering alcoholic she firmly believes in the power of people to change and reform. This means that she always sees the best in people and is much more of an optimist than Catherine. In previous series where Catherine has seen Ryan acting out as proof that he is going to turn out just like TLR Claire has been the one who has always believed Ryan is basically good.

The point Catherine made about the chance of TLR influencing Ryan seemed to hit home though.

I thought Catherine was very restrained talking to Ryan. I think the fear of him turning out like TLR is more or less gone. She’s left with her terrible grief and PTSD from Becky’s suicide. She doesn’t seem able to tell Ryan about what TLR did to Becky. I think that she fears what learning that he’s the result of rape could do to him.

I’m not that convinced by Faisal murdering Joanne. He doesn’t seem the type to get violent. Rob will get the blame initially - if he doesn’t have an alibi. Won’t he be at school though? The girls aren’t there so it must be during the school day and they’ll be able to work out the time of death. Plus Faisal opened and shut the back door before he put his gloves on.

The irony of “kindness” being on the wall as a murder is plotted and executed.

I think that she fears what learning that he’s the result of rape could do to him

This is a good point - it would be a terrible thing to find out.

I’m not that convinced by Faisal murdering Joanne. He doesn’t seem the type to get violent.

Disagree here - there is a phrase "Beware the wrath of the quiet man".

People who bottle things up eventually reach a stage where they explode with emotion, acting far more violently than they would if they had had the chance to get the weight off their chests sooner.

Pfizer (nice nickname, whoever thought of it) has been a simmering volcano of frustration, rage and fear for a long time. His wife doesn't listen to a word he says, his daughters love him but regard him asa joke, he is short of cash, the unflavoured son-in-law, a dogsbody in his FILs business, frightened the police will find out he's been supplying drugs and terrified that his daughters are going to be abducted, raped and murdered by the gangsters. He can't see any way out of his dilemma - poor, desperate Jo was just the one in the firing line when it all came to a head.

I have a feeling though, that if she hadn't laughed when he said "I'm stronger than I look", it might not have got to that stage. He obviously has low self-esteem and has probably been the butt of family jokes for years, and is also aware that he is unable to protect his family, and that laugh hurt.

duc748 · 16/01/2023 15:01

I don't think Catherine wears glasses for driving, does she?

mrstea301 · 16/01/2023 15:03

ilovebrie8 · 16/01/2023 14:47

did someone do a link/synopsis of the previous 2 series....am sure that I saw it on here somehwere! i'd like to refresh my memory as it's been so long and I am forgetting stuff...old age !! thanks

Shrine pod is a good podcast and they've done recaps of seasons 1 and 2 before this season started!

the80sweregreat · 16/01/2023 15:03

CC wasn't wearing glasses when she followed Clare.

Emotionalsupportviper · 16/01/2023 15:04

SenseFromThoughtDivide · 15/01/2023 22:35

Well TJR seemed very keen to plead guilty for a crime there was no real proof for = a court date, he seemed very keen that his son would also be in court. That seems a lot of coincidences

Is there usually a trial if there is a guilty plea in circumstances like this? I thought it was lawyers in court just arguing the sentence - there's no need for witnesses etc, as everything is cut and dried by the admission.

Not a lawyer, though, so just going off stuff I've picked up of the telly (a notoriously reliable source of legal information).

midsomermurderess · 16/01/2023 15:08

I’ve tried to listen to Shrine Pod but I couldn’t stand it. They talk so fast I find it hard to follow and all the sniggering and talking over each other is unlistenable to.

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