Game of Thrones Season 7 - Episode 1

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SPOILERS ALERT

THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION OF SEASON 7, EPISODE 1 "DRAGONSTONE"

Come and discuss the eagerly awaited Season 7 opening episode airing July 17th at 2am UK time! Don't read the thread if you want to avoid spoilers from Season 7 but also Seasons 1-6

HBO description of the episode: Jon (Kit Harington) organizes the defense of the North. Cersei (Lena Headey) tries to even the odds. Daenerys (Emilia Clarke) comes home

Please avoid discussing leaks and production details for Seasons 7 and 8 but speculate away on what we have learnt from the new episode and what it might mean for the rest of the Season and the ultimate winner(s) of the Game of Thrones

I'm pretty sure book Cersei was devoted to Joffrey.
Part love and shame to see how he turned into such a snivelly little shit.

How do I think it will all end?

"All hail Her Grace, Arya of House Stark , First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm."

She's got Danaerys' courage and Cersei's cunning. She's a Stark and could be a rallying point for the North.

Oh, and Gendry would be a perfect consort for her.

🤣🤣 Euron Flashheart 🤣🤣

I'd LOVE to see Arya and Gendry get together

I love an over the top Lord Flashheart type rogue so I'm happy with Euron - I'm not a book reader.

On second viewing Ed bothered me a bit less, I guess it didn't thwack me in the face this time. I've had shape of you running through my head for the past two days now though!

The original outline for the book series (I think it was 1993) had Jon and Arya together at the end of the series. I just can't see it happening now.

Didn't the original outline have Arya in a love triangle with Jon and Tyrion? No chance of that considering the portrayal of Tyrion in that play in Braavos, and Arya never really spent any time with him.

Sansa could be caught between both though.......

Maybe, that is definitely more likely. Tyrion was one of the few men who has been nice to Sansa.
As a side note, I don't think the wolf we see in the episode 2 trailer is Nymeria. I could be wrong, but it's possibly a member of Nymerias wolf pack, which could explain why it looks so threatening. Maybe Nymeria comes to Arya's rescue or something?
Just thinking out loud here...

I like to think that Sansa and tyrion would fall in love, she's not a child now and as you said, he's one of the few men who have been nice to her. Plus they are still legally married anyway!!

I just can't seen any chance of Sansa falling in love with Tyrion in either book or show series. In the books it's emphasised over and over again that she doesn't want to marry him and doesn't find him attractive at all.

I think because so many fans want Jon and Dany to get together that it won't happen. I read a few years back that GRR said fans had guessed most of what he intended so that he was minded to change it.
Jon and Tyrion formed a connection in the first series at the wall and a lot of people think that perhaps Tyrion is not a Lannister - in the books his dad was jealous/suspicious of a Targayren (can't recall which one) who had designs on Tyrion's mother. If so then Jon and Tyrion could also potentially ride the dragons with Dany.

Do we think that a reformed Hound could help Arya rehabilitate when her killing is done (if she does not kill him)?

Dunno arya - there's also a lot of emphasis on marrying not in love, but love growing afterwards.

Worm, it was aerys (mr mad king), which would make him Danys half brother and jons uncle. Undecided about the theory in general though.

I always thought the Song of Ice and Fire referred to Jon- half Targaryen half Stark.

I still think book Dany might turn into her mad father. Not sure about the show as she's such a fan favourite.

Yamayo
I agree, I think Dany Will utter the words 'burn them all' at some stage.
Also agree Jon is ice and fire, no Dany needed

Yay a kindred spirit!

(Only liked Dany in the first book after that she becomes one dimensional. And she's always going on and on about how she deserves to rule a land she's never even set foot on. When her advisors try to warn her she might not be welcome she utterly dismisses them).

Jon is the blue flower growing in a wall of ice in the House of the Undying 'Bride of Fire' prophecy.

I think he will betray Dany when she turns all mad-king.

"Three treasons will you know - one for blood, one for gold and one for love"

Maybe Jorah would be the one for love? Who are the other two?

De-lurking, I love this thread.

Do you think we'll see Edmure Tully again? Or perhaps Arya left him in the dungeons. I did feel sorry for him.

Blood - mirri max dur? Can't remember!!
Gold - Jorah
Love - ???

Danys "betrayal for love" and Azor ahai creating lightbringer by plunging his sword in Nissa nissa's heart cant be coincidence...

Or is that blatant misdirection?!

Anyone else think Littlefinger might engineer it so the Karstarks/Umbers appear to betray the Starks to try and drive a wedge between Sansa and Jon? Sansa seems on the cusp of turning heel and Peter has the skills to turn her.

Sansa and Tyrion aren't legally still married, as the marriage was never consummated.

I guess when Edmure turns up, he or his baby son will be the new lord of the Twins

It's not really annulled either at the mo though, is it? Is there a time limit between marriage and consumation?

I assumed it was annulled if she was able to marry Ramsay?
Can't imagine Roose Bolton risking an illegitimate marriage for his son. Sansa was the key to Ramsay gaining support from the northern houses.