Game of Thrones Season 7 - Episode 1

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SPOILERS ALERT

THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION OF SEASON 7, EPISODE 1 "DRAGONSTONE"

Come and discuss the eagerly awaited Season 7 opening episode airing July 17th at 2am UK time! Don't read the thread if you want to avoid spoilers from Season 7 but also Seasons 1-6

HBO description of the episode: Jon (Kit Harington) organizes the defense of the North. Cersei (Lena Headey) tries to even the odds. Daenerys (Emilia Clarke) comes home

Please avoid discussing leaks and production details for Seasons 7 and 8 but speculate away on what we have learnt from the new episode and what it might mean for the rest of the Season and the ultimate winner(s) of the Game of Thrones

Poor Ed! You can hardly blame him... who wouldn't want a cameo in the greatest show ever I just blame the show runners or whoever thought it was a good idea to have him!

Also, I thought Bran couldn't cross the wall as he was marked by a wight which would allow them to cross. Has he screwed over Westeros?
This is so significant as another poster said it has broken the magic of the wall. I think Melisandre may be significant here, holding back the white walkers at the wall trying to keep the magic intact. She is very old and powerful and the ww must be anathema to her as they are pretty chilly!

I also think the hound is much more significant than we realise, maybe he ends up on the iron throne!

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I could have written this... all my fan theories in one article

I think we didn't see Sandor's visions because we don't know whether he saw a 'real' mountain or a metaphorical one (his brother). If it was 'real' then seeing it would give away it's location - is it Dragonstone, the Fist of the First Men or some other location? It could 'foreshadow' Cleganebowl (which I absolutely hate as an idea but that's just me).

I thought Pete Postlethwaite's son was Kylo Ren - eh??
This sentence made sense to me last night. I was tired! When I saw the black haired new father in the ES scene I thought it was the actor who plays Kylo Ren. It turns out he's Pete Postlethwaite's son.

Elena very good point. I can't see Euron getting anywhere with Cersei though, she just needs the fleet. (He reminded me of Flashart ?sp in Blackadder). Also I wouldn't give much for his chances of longevity if Yara and/or Theon get anywhere near him.
But I know nothing......

The wall is totally coming down. I wonder if it will be the cliff hanger to this series.

I think we didn't see Sandor's visions because we don't know whether he saw a 'real' mountain or a metaphorical one
Good point. I was really expecting an amazing graphic vision and what we got instead was something that had all the effects of a 70s tv series.

safetybird yes I think you are right.

@SafetyBird I think that too and what a great ending to the season that would be! The huge wall coming down and all of the white walkers eerily marching through!

On a side, did anyone catch the Mumsnet comment made by Sue Perkins on Thronecast? Brilliant.

No?! I watched Thronecast as well!

Bird, it was when they were talking about Cersei's disinterest in Tommen's death, and Sue said something along the lines of 'Cersei's been slagged off on Mumsnet now.'

Interestingly, most show characters get further and further away from their show equivalents through each season. Cersei is now getting closer to hers. Book Cersei never loved her children; that was a show-only invention. Book Cersei is absolutely horrible to Tommen.

Oh I totally missed that! Brilliant! 😂

This is so significant as another poster said it has broken the magic of the wall. I think Melisandre may be significant here, holding back the white walkers at the wall trying to keep the magic intact. She is very old and powerful and the ww must be anathema to her as they are pretty chilly!
I think is why Beric Dondarrion is still being brought back to life. In the books his resurrections are to pave the way for Melisandre bringing Jon back but in the TV show he's STILL there. The Brotherhood even said last night, why is he so important? Why does the Lord of Light keep bringing him back? He's a Fire Wight, The Lightning Lord, with a flaming sword. Maybe he can create more resurrected Fire Wights to fight White Walkers? Fire and Ice? Also, when they were asking in Thronecast who could ride the third Dragon, I was thinking, Beric!

Have we considered Dani and gendry getting it together? She does like muscly men as someone pointed out and it would unite the Baratheon and targareyn houses?

judas I like that theory, perhaps he will turn the hound into a fire wight, ironic given the hound is understandably scared of fire!

Faded red has it spot on with Euron as Lord Flashheart

Maybe gendry is Azor ahai, he can forge a sword, maybe he plunges it into melisandre to make lightbringer.
awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Azor_Ahai
You have to read the link for my theory to make sense. It would be a departure from the books
I did think the hound might be azor ahai

Haha, yes to flashheart

The Dondarrions do have some Targ blood I think. Oh, no they don't. I have checked. The lovely Prince Baelor Breakspear Targaryen had a Dondarrion wife, but all that branch of the family died out. So the Dondarrions did not get a Targ bride back.

The Baratheons are part-Targs though, so Gendry could ride a dragon.

Same with Brienne.

It would be interesting if gendry comes back and has a proper role in the plot.

Haven't rtft but I felt there was an undercurrant theme of "new blood new chapter" "lots of young people and in with the new type feeling