Game of Thrones Season 7 - Episode 1

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SPOILERS ALERT

THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION OF SEASON 7, EPISODE 1 "DRAGONSTONE"

Come and discuss the eagerly awaited Season 7 opening episode airing July 17th at 2am UK time! Don't read the thread if you want to avoid spoilers from Season 7 but also Seasons 1-6

HBO description of the episode: Jon (Kit Harington) organizes the defense of the North. Cersei (Lena Headey) tries to even the odds. Daenerys (Emilia Clarke) comes home

Please avoid discussing leaks and production details for Seasons 7 and 8 but speculate away on what we have learnt from the new episode and what it might mean for the rest of the Season and the ultimate winner(s) of the Game of Thrones

Arya yikes that's not a great review of things to come.

I really enjoyed the first episode except from ed Sheeran I dunno why they kept his pan in the shot. It should have just been him singing and then the rest left to the genuine actors.

It's one kiss between Cersie and Jaime or that's what I'm telling myself. I really want him to redeem himself.

It is not really spoiler what Arya posted, as we really do not know what happens.

For instance I always thought based on the trailer that Jaime is in Casterly Rock during the battle scenes, but now people think it is more like Highgarden. Arya is just speculating based on Tyrion's expertise in the sewage system and that it would be divine retribution for Tywin. Tywin locked the entrances to Castamere which was underground and diverted a stream in there, killing all the Reynes. Hence Rains of Castamere.

Kit Harrington also said that some of the scenes and photos leaked are fake, so we do not really know if or when Jon meets Dany. At one point in the story you would think they should meet and there are very few episodes left.

It's a pretty big spoiler I'm afraid. The beauty of GOT is what you think might happen might not happen and now Arya's post removes all doubt, as well as making any suspenseful conflict on Jon's journey to Dragonstone basically boring now cos we know he gets there in the end now.

Whilst I agree it's a definite spoiler, c'mon, there's no bloody way that wasn't going to happen this year. It's very clear already this season will be about the consolidation of all other players behind Cersei vs Danaerys. Armies are going to have to be amalgamated pronto and Jon is already very realistic about the numbers he'll need against the White Walkers.

I genuinely didn't know it would happen this year. It takes them bloody ages to cross the sea in one instance and in another they get from A to B almost by magic. There are no bits in the trailers showing Jon and Dany talking together so I assumed it could happen or it might be the series' cliff hanger, or there might be a whole side plot where Jon gets imprisoned by Lannister bannermen and Arya has to rescue him or Benjen comes swooping down on a dragon to save him for all I know! The point is, it's been spoiled and I clicked on this thread in good faith after reading the OP which states we aren't to discuss leaked plots and production, kwim? Sorry if I'm being a twat, but it's the principle of it. I stayed away from all those leaked Reddit things for a reason.

What I mean is, now if there is any conflict in the plot I'll just be thinking it's boring now cos I know he gets there in the end, whereas if I was watching it without knowing that I'd be all wrapped up in the suspense. Hopefully he just magics himself to Dragonstone and not a lot happens in between.

Safety I am very sorry we have spoiled it for you.

However, you need to stay away from newspapers, magazines and their websites as well, as they are all full of photos of the scene Arya hinted at.

Honestly, the episode and script were poor compared to previous seasons. I'll watch any GOT content, but in comparison to even the most Dorne heavy episode it was poor.

Can you imagine that Sam shit montage taking place in any other season? It was unnecessary, and why bother to put something together that you know nobody is ever going to sit through it twice?

Lyanna Mormont has fallen victim to being a tumblr Feminist Icon. Her first scene on the show last season was perfect. Now they have her verbally slapping the lord of another house while he is in the middle of apologizing and he just looks at the floor like a kicked puppy.

The Hound had lost his wit. His lines were especially fan-ficcy. "He's upset. What should he say here? I know "bald cunt", lol!" And he is getting increasingly Scottish.

And I think both he and Tormund are overusing that growl in their voices. In the Winterfell hall meeting Tormund sounded like Papa Lazarou "We're the Night's Watch NAAAOOOWWWW..."

The Arya/cuddly Lannister soldiers scene looks worse every time I watch it - how come this particular group are so innocent, was it their first week on the job? If so, why are they being sent alone to the Freys? I get that the producers wanted to do something nice for Arya by booking Ed Sheeran (and giving him those blatant close-ups) but the rest of us didn't need to see it.

Wun-Wun seems to be a Wight (the blind eye) which is bollocks. He died inside Winterfell and would have been one of the first ones burned.

And there is no way Sansa would argue with Jon in public like that. She wasn't suddenly dropped in Westeros from a spaceship, she understands their social systems. The only reasonable excuse is that she's doing it deliberately to try and protect Jon from Littlefinger, make him think he's successfully manipulating her before she can get rid of him. Also, Jon is stupid to not investigate the houses who betrayed him. How does he know those two children aren't surrounded by dozens of adults still plotting against him?

But aside from those few things, I loved it

The very first line of the op is "Spoilers alert" in bold type. If you are the type of person who wants surprises instead of talking about the future then it was a bit daft to read the thread!

I know it says not to discuss leaked production spoilers but we can speculate so there will generally be some things that people who have read the books know or that may or may not happen.

It's not daft at all, Feed I've joined in on this thread for the last few years and it's always been generally accepted that speculation is fine, and talking about everything up until the next episode to be shown is fine. The OP DID say we wouldn't be talking about leaked production. Confirming that the leaked script is pretty much spot on and then going on to say something happens that hasn't happened yet isn't just mere speculation/talking about the future. I have not seen any photos or newspapers and I'm not on Facebook so I have done a good job of not knowing anything that's happening other than what I might think happens based on the trailer. It looks like I'm a lone voice but I'm just saying it's flipping annoying to be on a thread that says "don't discuss this" and then it's discussed!

I see what you mean, Safety. I guess it's the difference between saying "Jon and Dany look certain to meet up this season, as there's not much time left to delay the inevitable and some of the HBO released photo seem to confirm it too" vs "according to a leak I read, Jon and Dany will meet up this season"

Please don't leave the thread over it, though

Brave - the ice giant we saw wasn't Wun Wun (he was shot in the right eye at Winterfell, that one had his left eye missing). But he looked to be a nod towards the legend of Macumber, the blue eyed giant from Old Nan's tales

To be honest if I was really determined to avoid all spoilers I'd avoid a thread that says spoilers alert in bold at the front lile I'd avoid the plague.

Bravebear nothing wrong with getting increasingly Scottish lol. Plus he is lol. I saw him in HMV once I just stared like some creepy weirdo....... oh wait I am

Grrr...the bold spoiler alert thing is there every year and has always served to warn off people opening the thread before they've seen the episode that the thread is about.

I opened it, like I do every year, after watching the episode! It's never the done thing to talk about production leaks!

It clearly hasn't bothered anyone else so I will actually fuck off now, but I know I'm not wrong, as crazy as I am making myself sound!

Anyway - who is looking forward to tomorrow night / Monday morning?!

Shall I start a new thread for discussion of S7E2 (with spoiler warnings aplenty)?

Bravebear nothing wrong with getting increasingly Scottish

Nothing wrong with anything Scottish, but he started out English and his accent is drifting. Not nearly as badly as Littlefinger's though...

I can't help but wonder if Rory McCann is doing it consciously though? He is a patriotic chap and in the show he always pronounces Westeros as "Wester Ross" - a different place where there are no direwolves or dragons! I don't care though, he's still in my Top 5.

Just wanted to say great opening scene. "When people asked you what happened here tell them, the North remembers. Tell them, Winter came for House Frey."

I delayed watching season 6 because I wanted to read the books first, but since it looks like the books are never going to come out, what the hell.

he's still in my Top 5
Mine too

Sorry to have caused so much trouble with leak-gate

Am I still allowed in the discussions? Promise not to speculate - will only talk about what we have seen in previous episodes or what has been in books.

He's in my brothers top 5 and he is a straight man

New thread time?

I hope Littlefinger dies tonight. (Not a spoiler in any way - I know nothing.) Fingers crossed!

Ooohh I dunno, as much as I hate Littlefinger, I don't think it's his time to go just yet

One can only hope though

New thread for the new episode here

Appreciate the apology arya it did spoil things for me too if I'm honest, I agree with safetybirds assessment. glad there will only be speculation and not spoilers on future threads.