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GAME OF THRONES - S7E8 - SPOILERS AND FAN THEORY DISCUSSION WARNING 2AM SHOWING ONWARDS

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EverySongbirdSays · 13/06/2016 01:30

THIS THREAD IS FOR THE EPISODE NO-ONE

FIRST UK SHOWING 2AM 13/6/16

SPOILERS

ARE

COMING

AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THOSE WHO ASK IF SANSA IS MARRIED TO TYRION OR RAMSEY?

WE SAY THERE ARE LEGITIMACY ISSUES WITH BOTH MARRIAGES OK? HAPPY? CANCEL THE CHEQUE!

AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THOSE WHO COME TO THIS THREAD THEN COMPLAIN THERE ARE SPOILERS???

WE SAY NOT TODAY!!!!

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weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:20

Dany could get there quite soon once if she hops on Drogon.

weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:21

The younger queen could also be Sansa?
Sansa and Tyrion?

WeDoNotSow · 15/06/2016 22:25

I like the idea of it being Arya, in the books (that's all I ever seem to flipping say!!) it's commented on how much she is like Lyanna, and I believe book Arya is probably very beautiful now, and Lyanna was Cersei's rival, who she lost to for the affections of both Robert and Rhaegar...
Arya is the younger sister, but apparently valonquar can be genderless, so could be Arya.
I think it would tip Cersei over the edge to see Lyanna back to taunt her...

I don't really believe it, but I love the idea of it...

EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 22:27

Wait a minute ? WAIT A MINUTE!! weirdsister could have it.

Tommen dies
Jaime takes the throne
Dany kills Jaime takes the throne
Dany goes mental loses the throne
Tyrion's next, Sansa's his wife

Although they have made a point (in the book at least) that Dany has regained a menstrual cycle

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EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 22:29

The Volanquar is GENDERLESS???

Arya kills Cersei this series - gotta be

Episode 10 will be a bloodbath. It's 90 mins isn't it?

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EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 22:30

And if she CAN face change: She uses Tommen's face.

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weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:40

Was Cersei on Arya's list?

Cersei would hate to see Tyrion take the throne.

I agree that Dany would have to be out of the picture for Tyrion to take the throne as he's loyal to her now.
It would be a shame for all the Targaryens to be gone though. Unless Tyrion is actually Targaryen, as has been suggested on here.

WeDoNotSow · 15/06/2016 22:41

The Volanquar is GENDERLESS???
Apparently, yes. It does translate to 'little brother' but as I understand it, it's in a broad sense, the same as 'All men must die' meaning everyone (I know Dany flipped that one, but it's 'men' meant to just mean 'people')

EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 22:43

Cersei is VERY MUCH on the list

isn't the list only Cersei, the Mountain and one other now ? Oh, WALDER FREY

After The Waif interoggated her and she admitted she didn't want to kill The Hound anymore

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TheNorthRemembers · 15/06/2016 22:45

I have just rewatched the trailer for next week. Someone Northern says "Thousands of men don't need to die , only one of us." Which seems to suggest single combat (which either Snow would gladly accept), but we see the actual bastardbowl / snowbowl in the trailer. Thousands of men are dying, so who is saying that and why. Is someone sacrificing themselves some way?

I hope Cersei dies as well, as really her story sort of ended.

I love the idea that Cersei would get a heart attack seeing Lyanna come again. Although they only ever met once at Harrenhall I think.

WeDoNotSow · 15/06/2016 22:45

More on Arya is the Valonqar

weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:48

I didn't realise that I loved the mountain until this last episode. He's awesome. I hope he and Arya meet up and join forces to wreak vengeance. Perhaps he'll take out the mountain and Cersei will have nothing.

weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:48

sorry I meant that love the Hound!

EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 22:52

Are people in general cool with dissecting the possibilities of Maisie and Sophie's 2 truths 1 lie and cross referencing the two on thread or is that spoilers too far for people?

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weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:53

who are maisie and sophie?

RJnomore1 · 15/06/2016 22:54

Valyrian is gender neutral? Who knew!

EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 22:56

ESCANDALADO Shock weirdsister

Maisie Williams plays Arya, Sophie Turner plays Sansa they played 2 truths 1 lie and the 3 options Sophie gave are quite massive.

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weirdsister · 15/06/2016 22:57

Ah! I'll have to google that!

WeDoNotSow · 15/06/2016 23:11

RJ Apparently, we don't know for certain.
When Maestor Aemon spoke about the prospect he said something like 'it was a prince that was promised, so nobody thought to look for a princess, it was the language that fooled us'
Some people have taken that to mean that valnanqar is also gender neutral, or high Valyrian as a whole is gender neutral.

However, there is another theory (which I subscribe to) which is that we, the reader, don't know what the prophecy is, we have heard a translation of it, but not seen it in its original Valyrian form. Aemon spoke of the confusion coming from the fact that dragons are genderless, and so maybe the prophecy spoke of a 'dragon prince' which would be the same as a 'dragon princess', so would not mean that 'all' Valyrian is gender neutral.

But I suppose Arya could use a face, so she could tick Cersei off her list, and in Cersei's head, it would be Jaime/Tyrion or whoever, and that the way the prophecy would still be fulfilled from Cersei's PoV

RJnomore1 · 15/06/2016 23:12

Back with another stupid idea

Could the battle in the trailer be one of nellisandre's visions?

Probably not but nothing would surprise me right now

I'd think Ramsay would enjoy the chance to take down John one to one

RJnomore1 · 15/06/2016 23:14

Ooh thank you sow that's really helpful.

I just want it all to be over so I know but at the same time I never want it to end!

weirdsister · 15/06/2016 23:19

I never want it to end!

AliceInHinterland · 15/06/2016 23:23

You have the spoiler warning - I think it's fair game.
I really really want it to be Jaime that kills Cersei - as PP said to prevent another mad King type burning episode.
I hope there's more in store for Arya than just ticking off a list, and I think it's a bit of a wide interpretation if anyone's little brother or sister can kill Cersei (not read the link though and not ruling anything out).

EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 23:30

Well, I've been given the green light SO

Sophie's are :

Ramsey dies
Lady Stoneheart happens
Arya kills 3 people on her list

Combinations are :

Ramsey dies
Lady Stoneheart
Arya kills

--Ramsey-
Lady Stoneheart
Arya 3 kills

Ramsey
Lady Stoneheart
Arya 3 kills

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EverySongbirdSays · 15/06/2016 23:43

Maisies were :

Arya sails home to Westeros
Arya is in the trailer more times than you realise
Arya does not kill anymore people off her list

So she directly contradicts Sophie

Combination :

Westeros
Trailer
Kills

Westeros
Trailer
Kills

Westeros
Trailer
Kills

Aaaaaarrggh which combos are right?

She CAN'T pull off killing Cersei, Walder and The Mountain in one episode which tends me to think the kills is Sophie's lie and one of Maisie's truths

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