GAME OF THRONES Season 4

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About a week and a half to go

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Oooh! Who is Lyanna? I VAGUELY remember her. Is she the one Robert loved? Is Jon Robert and Lyanna's son??!!?!?!?!?!

I x-posted with you, Anna, by the way! So seems we're independently on to something!

I don't think that people who haven't read the books should click on Zebra's link!

Lyanna is Ned and Brandon Stark's sister, the one Robert was supposed to marry - the one they both talk about and who's tomb they visit in the beginning of Season one.

I don't think the father is supposed to be Robert though. But I don't know..I can barely keep up with the show most weeks!

OOH! I MUST TELL DH!! I wonder if he'll be annoyed? He never speculates on this stuff. If I asked him who is Jon's father he'd say "Ned. Cos they said so."

Yes sorry - don't click it if you haven't read the books! I haven't but any potential spoilers were lost on me, but it says at the top of the article MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!

Jesus it's just like checking food labels when I'm feeding DS - may contain nuts. It's a minefield, on both counts!

I clicked and I haven't read the books, but I feel like I was getting there myself (kinda...sorta...with the help of you lot) so JUST SIMPLY HAD TO click to fill in the speculation holes.

Yes saga! Which makes sense if Jon is Lyanna's! Maybe he's Robert and Lyanna's son? Which would make him...king? Jon is said to look like Ned so there must be some shared blood if hes not his son.

And I've always wondered why Lyanna was murdered during the rebellion - what did she know? Who did she upset? And why?

I could have completely the wrong end of the stick though. The great thing about GOT is the multitude of conspiracy theories

oooh I'm staying away from that link

Sorry to throw a spanner in your works, Anna, but Lyanna and Robert weren't married, making Jon still a bastard if he was their son. If bastards can be king, I think Gendry is older, so surely he'd be the heir instead?

So I'm being careful because I've read the books, but does anyone remember why Lyanna and Robert didn't get married?

To be fair, queen, all of Robert's kids were bastards I was getting carried away with thoughts of King Jon Snuuuur.

I thought Lyanna and Robert didnt get married because of her death?

I think it would be pretty near impossible for someone to come up with the generally held theory on Jon's parentage from just watching the show. Those of us who have read the books have had far more clues, things that haven't been shown at all on the telly.

Ooh Queen that sounds so mysterious!

Has Jon's parentage been revealed in the books? if so which book? wondering if its something that will be in the next tv series.

His parentage isnt revealed in the books but I think it's very heavily hinted at. Especially in book one. I'm only on book 3 though.

Really? I've read book 1 and didnt notice, maybe I need to reread it. Any excuse!

I think it would be pretty near impossible for someone to come up with the generally held theory on Jon's parentage from just watching the show. Those of us who have read the books have had far more clues, things that haven't been shown at all on the telly.

Agree with you queen. I had one theory after watching series 1 but that changed after reading the book.

It also doesn't follow that they'll go with the book theory in the show - we've already seen how they like to mess with stuff...
If he was Robert & Lyanna's bastard, that might explain the piercing look Jon Snurr got from Melisandre at the end of the last episode... She's lost Gendry, but is she thinking he's a new source of kings blood?!

Ooh, yes. Melisandre seemed to know he was important somehow.

Anna, concentrate on Ned's point of view chapters. There are a lot of clues in there!

Don't forget that there's already someone (maybe two someones) of established royal blood at Castle Black!

Actually, considering the rate at which people go around declaring themselves king, probably about 50% of Westeros would do!

And Westerosi kings seem to have been pretty free with their favours so lots of illegitimate offspring around.

If you're interested in Jon's parentage google it, there is one theory that explains quite a lot especially if you're reading the books.

Yes lyanna's death...but how, why and where did she die?