The Rolling Football Thread, season 2023-24 Part 2

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Continuation from this thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/sports/4855370-the-rolling-football-thread-season-2023-24?page=40&reply=132530310

Quite sleeping.

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I don't suppose we're going to see anything about the 115 charges any time soon...

Unfortunately not.....

ASTON VILLA FC!

sorry, as you were 🙈

Well done on qualifying for the Champions League

As if

Well done to Villa!

Congrats to Villa

Great for Villa! congrats

forgot to add: St Pauli promoted to the Bundesliga so my friend's son who lives near us will be happy he doesn't have to travel so far to see them, and will see them much more often (we're a long way from Hamburg, but lots of Bundesliga clubs within easy reach here)

Was very very sad you see Ange interview. It feels like he's changed, different persona. Fear damage had been done here. Please how don't say that this is the start of a slippery slope, and he's on the way out.

He's seen the small club mentality, and I don't think he's impressed.

From twatter, so can't vouch for it's veracity, although it feels about right;

Dale Johnson@DaleJohnsonESPN
FIVE-SEASON VAR NET SCORE

Brighton +6
Aston Villa +4
Liverpool +4
Everton +3
Man City +3
Man United +3
Newcastle +3
Chelsea +2
Crystal Palace +2
Tottenham -3
West Ham -5
Arsenal -7
Wolves -17

Relates to decisions for - decisions against

The funny thing is, I think at least one of the -1s for Wolves was against Arsenal...

Wolves fan here. That’s certainly what this season feels like.

No agreed. Not sure it was a good idea to mention fragile inside and out. But we all know there are inherent problems.

But he looked different, damaged, like the fire had been sucked out of his belly. And my heart sank.

small club?

He's probably realised what he's let himself in for now!

I think West Ham still might do Arsenal a favour I wouldn't write them off just yet. But then Everton is not an easy game either.

Small club mentality.

Plus:

Manchester United's debt has increased to £651 million, while Manchester City faces a £454.1 million debt load. Amidst this financial landscape, clubs like Chelsea, Newcastle United, Aston Villa, and Fulham stand debt-free, a testament to prudent financial management or significant owner investment.

Apart from those 4, many clubs are in a right financial mess, many almost insolvent!

No. Not even mentality.

I'm not prepared to go down the 'spurs are shit in every way' debate. Sorry.

@Oblomov24 His own fans were in the stands behind him cheering against him.

I have seen interviews from Conte and Mourinho saying the same sort of thing he was saying.

Spurs fans caring more about Arsenal not winning the PL than their own team getting CL and the vast amount of money and clout that go with it is pretty sad tbh.

To me this is a classic case of fans cutting of their noses to spite their faces.

Son laughing with Pep after also not good optics.

That's not what I'm saying. But it's clear to us from the outside that the management in the past few years has not improved the club noticeably. And the attitude of some of the fans last night doesn't scream "top club" to anyone.