Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia

[spstchmu]

Are you gonna do anything about it? Like, i know the line is that shoving the madness in the feminism board means it's not transphobia. And I know it's been done to death but I'm sick of it. It's not acceptable. Xenophobia, racism and homophobia also increasing.
And no. I won't leave. This is the biggest forum of its kind and it needs to represent and respect us all. And care that it's not.

Transwomen are men, born male. It's the only way to be a transwoman.

Also “the premise of the argument is disputed” - you’re the one making the extraordinary claim here, not GC feminists who recognise that men as a sex have a particular pattern of violent and sexual crime and harassment of women and girls, regardless of how those men choose to identify.

A giveaway that she doesn’t share your belief in gender identity ideology? I don’t think it’s a secret.

A Trans woman is a man. It's biological fact. What do you expect people to refer to them as?

And you've decided what you think. Nothing we say will make the slightest bit of difference. You came onto this thread with a closed mind.

Transwomen are males with penis and testicles. They are men in every single way; anatomy-wise, chromosome and DNA-wise, lived experience-wise. They are men. That's a biological fact of life. So you're upset that we say water is wet and 2+2=4.

Being a man is literally the only prerequisite to being a trans woman. The only requirement.

Is this a woman, @Darker ?

My advice, for what it’s worth, is leave them to it. They don’t really interact with any other part of the site.

Many women tried to debate this issue a decade ago, instead they got death and rape threats, social media pile ons, doxxing and their livelihoods threatened all while Stonewall and a myriad of captured institutions turned a blind eye or enthusiastically endorsed the 'no debate' policy.

I have decided human beings cannot change sex - they can have hormones and plastic surgery, but they remain their birth sex in every cell of their body, in their skeleton, musculature, endocrine system - none of which can be changed to the other sex by any medical or surgical means, @Darker. Can you prove otherwise?

I have decided women and girls are safer if spaces like changing rooms, toilets, hospital wards, prison cells remain single sex, and no male-bodied people are allowed in. Can you prove otherwise?

I have decided that trans ideology is deeply rooted in old-fashioned, toxic stereotypes of masculinity and femininity, and it is far more progressive to say that a boy can like pink, skirts, frills, make up, long hair and hate rough sports, getting grubby, rough and tumble - and this doesn’t make them a girl - they should be allowed to be a boy with their own individual character. A boy/man is someone with male biology and any character, not someone with any biology and a masculine character, and a girl/woman is someone with female biology and any character not any biology and a feminine character.

I’m still waiting…

Just had a quick look at my 'threads im on'

Ama, chat, AIBU, legal, litter tray. All other parts of the site.

Though what not interacting with other parts of an Internet forum has to do with the ability to explain what the difference between men and men who say they are women is, i have no idea...dont tell me, you cant explain that either.

There's always this complete inability to explain anything. Weird.

But I have been told that I as a woman cannot be a transwoman. Therefore the only people who can be transwomen are men aren’t they?

I was told the same. I asked if I could have facial hair removal funded by the NHS. I can't, but TW can because it's apparently "distressing" for them. Obviously us women with PCOS see our beards as a fun add on!

If you don't have to be a man in order to be a TW, how do I convince my GP that I am one?

The established definition of 'woman' is an adult, female human.

If you believe that some males are women what is you definition of woman?

Absolutely right - this site is a cesspit of ignorance. Mumsnet won't do anything about it though, they've made that clear. The reputation for bigotry that this site now has doesn't seem to bother them.
And as for the so called 'feminists' - why do you bother pretending you're not transphobic. It's the whole basis of the FWR board that has misinformation from far right sites, bully anyone who disagrees with you, and then complain that you have no friends in the real world because everyone except you is 'captured'.
If anyone has the temerity to post about actual women's rights you shoehorn transphobia in until anyone serious leaves. Horrors the lot of you - and not worth bothering with really.

The ignorance is saying human beings can change sex, @rosa17, or that women and girls do not need and deserve single sex spaces.

100%

Misogynists are people who give away hard won women’s rights to men.

You are free to correct this 'far right misinformation' at any point. Crack on.

But at least I can spell homophobic…. Just sayin 😁😁😁

More fool you, i was shooting for homophobia

If standing up for the rights to safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls is “transphobic”, The TRAs have torpedoed their own movement more than anyone else even could imagine.

Talking of homophobia, how’s “it’s wrong to be exclusively same sex attracted” going?