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To be bored of the trans hate?

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DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 09:54

Ok, there are extremists (like the punch people in the face person), extremists can be found in many areas of life but is anyone else fed up of the trans stuff constantly being dragged up?

I've seen some ridiculous statements on here recently. Everything gets something added related to trans when it's totally irrelevant. It's getting boring. Trans extremists are not the norm so can we stop pretending they are?

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Meeting · 10/07/2023 10:57

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:55

Are you saying human milk and skin to skin isn’t best for a baby?

Breastmilk. From a mother who has just given birth so has the natural hormonal changes that bring about the perfect food tailored to the individual baby.

There is no knowing what secretions that man was producing. His body is being pumped with so many drugs that whatever it is, it's in no way safe for an infant to consume.

StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 10:57

Meeting · 10/07/2023 10:52

No and neither is anyone I know my age. I feel like ons of us is confused, possibly me?

Possibly. Is it that you haven’t noticed the threats and violence against women or you have but it’s not a priority for you

Where does your concern most lie, with women and girls or males?

Terven · 10/07/2023 10:57

I don’t hate them. Just won’t accept them in the female areas and anything with children. Other than that and if adult people, carry on.

GrinAndVomit · 10/07/2023 10:57

Males who get a baby to suck their nipples to validate them, are child abusers.

That’s just a fact. Unfortunately, abuse of children makes people very uncomfortable and many would much rather ignore and excuse than confront an adult.

PonyPatter44 · 10/07/2023 10:57

Are you saying human milk and skin to skin isn’t best for a baby?

It's not human milk. Its chemically- induced secretion. Human milk is produced by human females.

A lot of sex offenders are either transwomen or masquerading as transwomen. That's just how it is. I find it quite...odd....that the trans community simply don't get involved in calling out the sex offenders in their midst, but I'm sure they have their reasons.

Froodwithatowel · 10/07/2023 10:58

I'm a whole lot more bored with the women-hate emanating from the Critical Theory lobby really. And yet women arguing back, get threads like these. Tis odd.

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:58

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:56

You’re aware this is mimicked when non lactating parents use the same hormones to produce milk right?

I’m aware that this mimicking does not produce Breastmilk as such, and I’m aware that the cocktail of drugs used can cause heart issues in babies who are fed this fluid.

Curseofthenation · 10/07/2023 10:59

I get angry about trans people being in women's sport. I have no problem with calling a trans person a woman if they wish, I'll even call them a spatula if they like. I do object to anyone saying that I should identify as a cis woman or that terms like breast-feeding should change to chest-feeding.

Sooooo....overall I don't feel a lot of hate. It's not until I see a massive unit of a trans person on top of a podium that I fill the rage burst out of me. How dare they.

echt · 10/07/2023 10:59

To be bored of the trans hate?

So why start a thread?

And it's by not of.

BloodyPrime · 10/07/2023 10:59

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:56

You’re aware this is mimicked when non lactating parents use the same hormones to produce milk right?

If I gave a bull the same hormones, would happily drink the secretions produced in your tea?

Someboysaretryintoohard · 10/07/2023 10:59

There's no hate, there's justified concern over the eradication of women's rights.

If you can't see that, then you may want to do some research on the impact this will have on women's safety and equality.

It's not something to bury your head in the sand over and pretend it's OK.

I find it confusing that men who choose to become women don't understand the history of women's rights and empathise with the position we are in. If we don't want penises in our bathrooms because they're a threat then they should understand that, if they're as womanly as they say they are anyway.

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 11:00

@viques I don't need to imagine a friends 14 yo daughter I have my own with a chest binder. We will deal with thing step by step but ultimately they are their own person and I cannot dictate what they do beyond 18. All I can do is offer balanced views and be there for them. Hard to find balanced views and information in some places though.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/07/2023 11:00

Alongside 'women don't know if it's legal, to call themself a woman these days'. Nonsense

Talking of hyperbole literally no one has said this, what we are saying for the hard of thinking is that if the definition of women is no longer biological ie an adult human female, but now also includes men who ‘feel’ like women then actually women defined as a sex class no longer exist and therefore at a stroke single sex spaces & services for women only crease to be

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 11:00

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Lol.
You’ve never heard GC women being called nazis? We have, many times over.

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 11:00

Perhaps if we stopped talking about it online it would all go away.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 10/07/2023 11:01

There's this idea that we can have a concept of some men becoming women and women not being disadvantaged.

Anyone with eyes can see that this is not true.

I think when people say they want nuance, what they really mean is that they want to believe that we can allow men to be seen as women, but with a big wink, and assume that the men will know when its appropriate to claim to be women and when it isnt.

But if that was the case, we wouldn't be having to justify why men are in womens sport, prisons, changing rooms and rape crisis centres.

For a nuance discussion, we needed to be open and honest from the start. Governments shouldnt have given men female birth certificates without the public knowing and supporting it.

All the problems that are happening now isnt because women over 30 are speaking, its because governments and men assumed that women wouldn't speak up.

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 11:01

senua · 10/07/2023 10:39

If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.
This. Note that 'angry' and 'hateful' are not interchangeable words.

Indeed. You can be concerned for women's rights without spreading nonsense and inciting hate

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 11:01

But it’s not any other man is it

What's the difference?

GrinAndVomit · 10/07/2023 11:01

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:58

I’m aware that this mimicking does not produce Breastmilk as such, and I’m aware that the cocktail of drugs used can cause heart issues in babies who are fed this fluid.

I have face creams in my bathroom cabinet which I’ve had to stop using while breastfeeding… yet a man taking insane amounts of drugs, designed to fight the natural function of every single cell in his body, is just fine 🙄

It disgusts me that people are falling for this woman hatred.

Yorkshirelass04 · 10/07/2023 11:02

@DaisyUpsy you need to qualify what nonsense and hate is being spread and by whom.

But since you find the topic boring I assume it's not very offensive?

GrinAndVomit · 10/07/2023 11:02

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 11:01

Indeed. You can be concerned for women's rights without spreading nonsense and inciting hate

What nonsense?
The only nonsense here is the assertion that humans can change sex or that women are not vulnerable to males who say they’re women.

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 11:04

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 11:00

Perhaps if we stopped talking about it online it would all go away.

Sadly it’s past that point.
It’s now engrained in politics, health care, education. Stopping talking about it would just make it far easier for the feuded ideology to spread further.

DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 11:05

IAmSalmaFuckingHayek · 10/07/2023 10:53

no one called you a nazi.

Someone shared a link to an article that did just that…

I didn't see that and im sorry. It doesn't help anyone have a reasonable discussion does it.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 11:05

Exactly. Scroll on by, women are standing up for your rights whether you approve or not.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 10/07/2023 11:05

Indeed. You can be concerned for women's rights without spreading nonsense and inciting hate

Have you any examples of GC persons spreading nonsense and inciting hate?

All I've seen is one side holding up signs saying 'decapitate terfs' 'punch terfs in the cunt', one lovely man inciting people to punch a terf, turning up to meetings in balaclavas where women (the ones with vaginas) want to talk about women's rights and scream and shout trying to stop this, a TRA punching a women in the face etc etc.

What side would that be? Have GC women replicated this? If so please post a link.

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