To be bored of the trans hate?

[DaisyUpsy]

Ok, there are extremists (like the punch people in the face person), extremists can be found in many areas of life but is anyone else fed up of the trans stuff constantly being dragged up?

I've seen some ridiculous statements on here recently. Everything gets something added related to trans when it's totally irrelevant. It's getting boring. Trans extremists are not the norm so can we stop pretending they are?

I think tbh some of the ways people are pushing their views in here speaks for itself.

I.e. 'You're calling me a nazi' no one called you a nazi. That is what I view as an extremist view. Taking things and twisting them into something untrue to suit your own agenda.

'As a woman my views are as valid as anyone else's' Of course they are, but you still don't get to speak for trans people which is what you tried to do by stating anyone who has concerns about trans stuff is transphobic. You're implying all trans people have this view. Which is nonsense and extremist by inciting hate on all trans people.

People who post things like every school I go into has a transgender child age 5-7 I have to be told about. Nonsense. Simply not happening but fuels the extreme gc side.

YABVU.

But it’s not any other man is it

Its ridiculous to assume or even imply a trans woman chest feeding is a sex offender

its disgusting actually

Are you saying human milk and skin to skin isn’t best for a baby?

Being pro women is not anti trans - and if you think it is you need to ask yourself a few questions.

Also, still waiting for 5 examples of extremism from GC posters.

An ideology is a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

I have seen many instances of anyone who doesn't agree being called a handmaiden or incapable of critical thinking.
I remember a thread being disgusted that the trans actor from Heartstoppers had a part in Dr Who - posters were saying that trans actors shouldn't be allowed to work on TV.
I remember when posters were fawning over someone who had been showed to be racist and I was told (in these words) to pipe down and get my own house clean as a back woman pointing out racism.
And then there's "pronouns are rohypnol". They really aren't.

Do you think that the above are just examples of a sex based understanding in what a man or a a woman is?

I’m 36 and not menopausal.
I have a MA and I’m not stupid.

Humans cannot change sex.
Females are physically vulnerable to males.
Women deserve recourse to female only spaces, support, sports and intimate care.

No and neither is anyone I know my age. I feel like ons of us is confused, possibly me?

Nasty. Reported.

no one called you a nazi.

Someone shared a link to an article that did just that…

Alongside 'women don't know if it's legal, to call themself a woman these days'. Nonsense.

You're kidding yourself.

It's not just the straight young people I know either.

If only that was true! Why then are trans people so desperate to change language, to particularly erase the language that women need ,and use , about themselves, especially relating to medical need and the natural stages and processes that a women’s bodies go through in life that never happen to someone born in a man’s body. The irony being of course that trans men are completely ignored in the language that relates to men’s health, where pronouns are robustly male and body parts are correctly identified and named.

I've always been a very tolerant person. But enough is enough, children are being brainwashed into questioning things they wouldn't have otherwise. It's being pushed upon them far too young. If your not 100% accepting of trans ideology your considered hateful. I can't stand extremism of any kind, but I'm sick of women's safe spaces being erased also. I will not accept this madness I'm afraid and I'm glad so many others are still thinking clearly and are standing up for what's right.

Tell that to the sheer number of people advocating that T women should not need to disclose their T status to lesbians for fear of their own safety and because it’s their personal medical history. Who do you think is more vulnerable in this equation?

Yanbu. Everyone is aware of the issue now. It's gone beyond "legitimate concerns" and become a hysterical moral panic. Time to move on.

No, it doesn't work like that. You don't get to treat people outrageously, take away their rights, threaten their safety, insist that they share your own (science-denying) beliefs - and then tell them "Well, it's been some time since I started to make my demands now, so that means you have to roll over and accept them".

PP are right that most trans ideology IS extreme by its very nature. It's not when people want to follow stereotypes that are commonly associated with the other sex and even like to think of themselves as the other sex; it's when they start demanding rights - not brand new neutral rights but rights that already belong to other people that they expect to take away from them in order to add them to their own rights - and want to force other people to accept as 'fact' what they like to believe.

If I angrily lobbied the government to enshrine it in law that people who disagree with me that grass is red, water is dry or that the majority language in China is Icelandic were being hateful, deniers, phobic, whatever - and thus deserved to be cancelled, sacked from their job, thrown off social media, TV and radio, socially embarrassed, have their reputations trashed, (in some cases) should be violently assaulted... how would you genuinely react to that? Be honest.

It all boils down to this: believe whatever you like; but forcing your beliefs on to others, and demanding that they publicly acknowledge as 'accepted fact' what they most definitely do not, is evil.

Accurate

I urge those of you who have no problems with trans ideology to look up where it started.

It began with a vile, physically/emotionally/sexually abusive man named Dr John Money. I hate spoilers so I'll let you figure out the rest for yourself.

Not sure that article is saying what you think it is.. (Clue: its a study of transpeople, and the authors were suprised to discover the older participants reported lower levels of transnegativity than the younger ones...)

Are you saying human milk and skin to skin isn’t best for a baby?

Breastmilk. From a mother who has just given birth so has the natural hormonal changes that bring about the perfect food tailored to the individual baby.

So fed up, you started another thread! Therefore YABU

Quite.

I was getting ready for work, which I will shortly be off to. I just wasn't sure if it's a crime now to say a woman works. Are you calling me a lazy sahm? I have as much right to a job as anyone you know

You’re aware this is mimicked when non lactating parents use the same hormones to produce milk right?

Women hate what the trans movement (not just the extremists) are demanding to take away from them; far too many of the trans movement simply appear to hate them.

You literally started a thread saying you were bored of something, and are now having a go at a poster for asking if you're too bored to reply?!