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To be bored of the trans hate?

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DaisyUpsy · 10/07/2023 09:54

Ok, there are extremists (like the punch people in the face person), extremists can be found in many areas of life but is anyone else fed up of the trans stuff constantly being dragged up?

I've seen some ridiculous statements on here recently. Everything gets something added related to trans when it's totally irrelevant. It's getting boring. Trans extremists are not the norm so can we stop pretending they are?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:31

Again we have posters so naive as to what a lot of men are like that I wonder if they've ever met a man.

ichundich · 10/07/2023 17:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:17

What's particularly annoying is people posting their hate outside the Trans topic.

There isn't a "trans topic" and general topics are free for anyone to post in.

"Feminism, sex & gender" I call it "Trans topic" because its full of threads like this one.

JudgeAnderson · 10/07/2023 17:32

"Feminism, sex & gender" I call it "Trans topic" because its full of threads like this one.

Take it up with the OP, posting about how bored of it all she is - and now look, 32 pages in clearly people are not bored.

CarrieOnBoris · 10/07/2023 17:32

Mangogogogo · 10/07/2023 11:14

Tbh op theres a lot of hate and anxiety in general on here. And it does not reflect real life at all!

they hate trans, gay people, men, anyone brown, anyone from a different culture, anyone fat or who dares to eat more than a pickle for lunch. It’s just full of hate, I’m here for the sound people but tbh it’s getting difficult to blank it out now

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AutumnCrow · 10/07/2023 17:32

ichundich · 10/07/2023 17:31

"Feminism, sex & gender" I call it "Trans topic" because its full of threads like this one.

This is in Site Stuff

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:33

This is AIBU though, and the OP felt able to post a "trans thread" here, so why shouldn't anyone else?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:33

It was AIBU, I see it's been moved.

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2023 17:33

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:33

This is AIBU though, and the OP felt able to post a "trans thread" here, so why shouldn't anyone else?

No it isn’t. It’s Site Stuff of all places.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:34

It was in AIBU. That's why it's titled "to be bored"

MrsMarzetti · 10/07/2023 17:34

I am bored of blokes pretending the are women. I don't care what you do, just live your life and do not expect me to lie.

StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 17:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:33

This is AIBU though, and the OP felt able to post a "trans thread" here, so why shouldn't anyone else?

It was AIBU

Mnhq moved it

StefanosHill · 10/07/2023 17:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:33

It was AIBU, I see it's been moved.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:36

I've been on this thread since it started, thanks @Blossomtoes. This was the earlier link I have open.

To be bored of the trans hate? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4845805-to-be-bored-of-the-trans-hate

loislovesstewie · 10/07/2023 17:36

bobblyjob · 10/07/2023 17:09

I would imagine the risk to a trans woman held in a male prison is significantly higher than to other women if she was held in a female prison.
But that doesn’t fit the frothing desperation on here
its interesting because I have met a number of trans people in my life and they have all just been getting on living their lives and strangely enough I managed to have a normal
relationship with them, call them their preferred pronouns and chatting to them without giving a shit what genitals they have

The answer is that anyone claiming to be trans is housed in a prison or prison wing specifically intended for anyone who is trans. But again that doesn't match their requirements,does it?

loislovesstewie · 10/07/2023 17:39

And, as I said upthread, and as I will continue to say, I have met some seriously disturbed trans women, so individual experiences may vary, mightn't they?

PurpleButterflyWings · 10/07/2023 17:39

@FanFckingTastic · Today 11:51

Like you OP, I am fed up with the trans stuff constantly being dragged up. I'm fed up of my rights as a woman (you know the adult, female human kind) being eroded. I'm fed up of being required to share spaces with men (the male-bodied kind) I'm fed up of the requirement to lie - and pretend that males can actually become females. I'm fed up with it all.

100% this . I'm sick of us women who wants to protect women and girls, being shouted down by certain people (and silenced,) and called a TERF - and a transphobic. PURELY for having the audacity to say 'I want women/girls/females to have a nice safe space away from men ...

IMO it's the worst kind of people who try and tell us that we're all wrong - and we're all transphobic for wanting a safe environment for ourselves. I am SO sick of it. Sad

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/07/2023 17:40

JudgeAnderson · 10/07/2023 17:30

It's not for women or men to solve. It's for the prison authorities.

Exactly, they can manage vulnerable men on the male estate.

Indeed.

They are used to coping with vulnerable prisoners.

Very young men, gay men, mental health difficulties, SEN, drug damaged etc - and of course, sexual offenders.

Helleofabore · 10/07/2023 17:43

loislovesstewie · 10/07/2023 17:36

The answer is that anyone claiming to be trans is housed in a prison or prison wing specifically intended for anyone who is trans. But again that doesn't match their requirements,does it?

Downview had a separate 'trans' wing. This was considered unacceptable and closed. Male prisoners who have trans identities insist on being in female prisons.

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/07/2023 17:44

CarrieOnBoris · 10/07/2023 17:32

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I'm wondering if some accounts are actually portals to another dimension, because I don't see this stuff.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:44

And even with the separate wing at least one prisoner (male with a GRC) managed to sexually assault a female prisoner when they mixed outside it.

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/07/2023 17:46

Helleofabore · 10/07/2023 17:43

Downview had a separate 'trans' wing. This was considered unacceptable and closed. Male prisoners who have trans identities insist on being in female prisons.

If they were truly worried about their safety, they would be quite content on the "women-with-willies wing".

The fact that they aren't speaks volumes.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 10/07/2023 17:47

I would imagine the risk to a trans woman held in a male prison is significantly higher than to other women if she was held in a female prison.

As others have said, this is bonkers.

We shouldnt base risk on what anyone would imagine.

Risk isn't comparable or tradeable. How is it right to mitigate against one risks to make someone else more at risk.

Why does this sub set of males get to be in womens prisons, and not other subsets?

AutumnCrow · 10/07/2023 17:48

Helleofabore · 10/07/2023 17:15

did you read this before you wrote it?

Men are not responsible for male on male violence????

Who the fuck is then?

The Tories? JKR? Jesus? Me? Oh I know, it's .............. Rebekah Vardy's account!

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/07/2023 17:50

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/07/2023 17:33

It was AIBU, I see it's been moved.

Quelle surprise.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 10/07/2023 17:50

Ive heard that part of the reason men dont want trans prisons/wings is that they dont trust the prison authorities to determine trans accurately, and therefore give men access to trans cells.

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