TDWP and recent goings-on

[RowanMumsnet]

Hello

We thought it would be useful to explain our understanding of what occurred last week between Zombie, Footsteps/TDWP, Rhubarb etc to try to clear up any misunderstandings.

When the situation started to develop last week, we absolutely did not know that Footsteps was TDWP. We unearthed something to suggest that she was near midnight on the night that everything was kicking off. At that point, one MNer was waiting in a public place to meet up with her, and we had been told by Zombie and by Nom that the police were aware of the rendezvous details and were standing by to help if anything went wrong.

We could see from some PMs flying around that posters were saying that the crime reference number checked out, and that the refuge had confirmed they had a space for her, so at this point we thought the best course was to keep channels of communication open. So we didn't ban Footsteps again at that point, despite having realised who she was. We did re-ban her once things had settled down and we had been told she was in a safe place. Given past history, TDWP is not a poster we would consider allowing back to Mumsnet permanently.

At various points throughout the evening we were in phone or text contact with Zombie and with Rhubarb, mostly trying to establish (as far as we could) what was going on and whether people were behaving safely. FWIW, we thought at the time - and still do - that it was a hugely risky thing to do, and not something we would advise or encourage. We would never recommend that any MNer goes into a situation like this, particularly not on her own. As most of you will know, we remind posters regularly that not everyone on the internet is who and what they say they are. We're pulling together some content on internet safety for adults and hope to publish that soon.

We asked Rhubarb at the time (before we had conclusive evidence about Footsteps's identity) whether she thought the person Zombie was meeting was a previously banned poster, and she said that she had no reason to think it was.

Pretty much everything else took place off-board and via channels that we have no access to - so beyond this account we aren't able to say with certainty what has gone on.

"It was at Footsteps' behest."

On thread?

Yes she did Rooners, I remember that bit. That was when she started getting all aggressive with people and people started to become even more .

whats the midnight thing

wails

D'y'know, the only thing I recalled about TDWP was that she once went sledging with her kids wearing a mini skirt and two pairs of tights. And then got uppity with us all for ribbing her for it's impracticality.

But I can't believe all of this has gone on. I work with teens and they are all bombarded with the message that you NEVER meet strangers of the Net. They still do, occasionally, but they know they shouldn't.

A MNHQ approved guide to keeping yourself safe sounds like a Damn Fine Idea, given that clever adult women can be so naïve.

Yes on thread Nom. Black and white.

Nick, the midnight thing is a sentence problem ,read it again punctuated

"They still do, occasionally, but they know they shouldn't."

Much like adults then.

hahaha SASSY you and i are so fickle and shallow

i too remember the kilt thing

"Yes on thread Nom. Black and white."

You might well be right. I certainly remember her saying it.

' ''We unearthed something to suggest that she was [TDWP] near midnight on the night that everything was kicking off.''

Rooners is right, she twisted it on thread to ask if she could trust Zombie.

Nom, the point about dealing with teenagers is that you are trying to help them become responsible, independent adults, isn't it?
My two were very surprised when I gave them a precis of events, because it's not how they'd have handled it.
Perhaps the older teens could run an advice thread for gullible adults?

ah! i thought she was near midnight, and maybe midnight was a place.

how did they suss it?

Midnight is a place sounds like something by bernstein

That's a book, Dr Nick.

They used the suss laws.

Ooh yes, Joan Aitken. My fave when I was 10.

Lol at shallow and fickle. The DARK side of S&B, S&F.

Mothra

Bile and Hootie

I think it went like this:

Footsie :Ex has custody of kids, must keep them safe from axe wielding, abusive current BF. he is very bad. Help!

Zombie quietly zooms off.

NOM posts attention seeking thread asking whether anyone knows zombie in RL, as she has gone to rescue DV suffering Footsie. Zombies departure is now plastered all over the boards, when otherwise nobody would have been any the wiser.

Whole of hitherto oblivious MN suddenly up in arms about risk to Zombie, as Footsie is obviously a troll/drama loving unknown quantity.

People wonder whether NOM is Footsie, as both become unusually aggressive at the same time. Then when a taxi driving Uncle appears on the scene, and Footsie thinks Zombie might like to meet him instead.

Whole load of unlikely sounding stuff about WA and the police is posted by three or four behind the scenes posters. Hysteria ensues, as it makes the trollishness factor increase ten fold.

Zombie isn't murdered in the night, Footsie is TDWP. There may or may not have been an axe wielding BF, who was scared off by a voice on the phone.

isnt it a jazz song too?

"Because midnight is not a moment, midnight is a place"

Murgatroyd's Mill IIRC.

Mark Lester may have been involved, being poor and sent into sewers.

Loved it.

Ahem.

As you were.

tdwp singing

and did they meet in the end?

Collecting fag butts and restuffing new fags before being horribly squashed by carpet presses.

Great fiction.

AS you were...