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What to say to demanding PIL re limited time to visit them?

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SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:09

I need to work out what needs saying to PIL about our impending visit to their city. We will be there for 8 days in total.

The visit is specifically to help my mother deal with my father, who has had a stroke. Mother is driving 100km each way daily to visit him in a rehab hospital and is exhausted. We are visiting to help by driving her to the hospital and cooking her dinner each night. All of us will be involved in these trips, so that we all get time with my father and mother. The time spent with my father is likely to be an hour or so at most.

PIL live nearly an hour across the city in the other direction from my parents' place. They are fit, healthy, very used to getting their own way, and dare I say it, they like playing the main parts in their luxurious life with everyone else as extras.

When DH tells them about our visit, MIL will go into "poor little me" mode and wheedle at DH for just a few visits here and there (meaning: every day). DH will feel guilty and promise that he and DS will visit every day. FIL will go into shouting bulldog mode and phone up DH and bully him into a schedule worked out by FIL where DH has to bring DS to visit for exactly as many hours as are being spent with my parents, whether or not this suits anyone. DH will feel guilty and agree, because he always agrees with everything his father says. He always has.

Meanwhile DS will be stuck in the middle of all this and will be spending 5 hours a day in the car, being dragged around from one set of grandparents to the other. I will be required to play the nanny, required to come to visit PIL with DH and DS, but not actually allowed to partake in any part of the visit (no talking, no eating or drinking, etc), merely being there in case DS needs me.

Needless to say I don't want to do the PIL bit. DH claims also not to, but "wishes it would all go away" re his parents being demanding, and thus will agree to every single damn thing his father demands.

I've pointed out on many occasions that by always letting his father ride high-handedly over everyone else, DH is not behaving as a decent husband or father. He says he doesn't enjoy it, says it's all so weird, and then just lets it all happen again, every time. The weakness is profoundly unattractive. I am, however, completely dependent on DH at the moment.

What should DH say to PIL when he tells them about our trip?

My idea below:

"Dear PIL, we're visiting your city, however it is to help SoTired's parents because her father has had a stroke. We will be spending a very large amount of time on helping her mother and visiting her father, and it will be on an unpredictable schedule. We will not be able to visit you every day, so please don't request visits every day or even every second day."

...will undoubtedly result in a viciously demanding phonecall from FIL to which DH acquiesces.

OP posts:
Potooooooooes · 26/09/2026 06:15

Wait, you are not included when you are actually at their premises? No talking, no eating, no drink? Whilst your husband and child are hosted/fatted calf happens?

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:16

Personally, I'd probably want to help my mum and dad myself with few visits from DH and son in rehab while DH occupies son. Going to his parents would be ideal. That would mean less chance of boredom, sickness and general kiddy mayhem from son while dad recovers.

Ra33it99 · 26/09/2026 06:20

Why do you have to tell them you're going? Doesn't sound like you'll bump into them.

SoThatsTheWayItIs · 26/09/2026 06:21

You don’t need to say anything to inlaws. Your message to your husband is “I will be focussing on my parents and not be visiting yours. It is a stressful time and I would appreciate your support. If you have to prioritise your parents then you can do that alone. DS will be able to go with you if it fits around my schedule helping and visiting my father. If not you can go alone”

Step right back and stop facilitating this unhealthy dynamic.

whowhatwerewhy · 26/09/2026 06:21

Just don’t tell them your in they city .

ImmortalSnowman · 26/09/2026 06:22

Exactly @Ra33it99 . Don't tell them you are going at all @SoTiredSoTiredSoTired. Your husband can go visit them himself after your visit.

SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:23

@Potooooooooes yes, correct.

@Lexibletheflexible DS is 9, is obsessive about not passing on germs, and is quiet and well behaved, so woul dhappily sit reading a book or partaking in adult conversation. The difficulty here is (1) I can't drive there, DH can; and (2) I don't want DS spending time alone with PIL. There is a lot of background and I don't trust them. DH will always do as directed by FIL, so if FIL wants to give MIL alone time with DS, e.g. where she deliberately feeds DS foods he's allergic to, DH will let that happen. Thus I will go to visit PIL too, even though they refuse to have anything to do with me and treat me like a nanny.

All those saying "don't tell PIL you're going".... DH won't do that. He's too beaten into the ground by FIL.

OP posts:
parietal · 26/09/2026 06:23

Why do you all 3 need to stick together? How old is DS? Can’t DH take him to pil without you?

can you just not tell PIL of your visit? Or tell them it is one day not 5 (the last day).

TeenToTwenties · 26/09/2026 06:24

I'd also just not tell them. It doesn't sound as if it would be at all helpful.

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:27

SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:23

@Potooooooooes yes, correct.

@Lexibletheflexible DS is 9, is obsessive about not passing on germs, and is quiet and well behaved, so woul dhappily sit reading a book or partaking in adult conversation. The difficulty here is (1) I can't drive there, DH can; and (2) I don't want DS spending time alone with PIL. There is a lot of background and I don't trust them. DH will always do as directed by FIL, so if FIL wants to give MIL alone time with DS, e.g. where she deliberately feeds DS foods he's allergic to, DH will let that happen. Thus I will go to visit PIL too, even though they refuse to have anything to do with me and treat me like a nanny.

All those saying "don't tell PIL you're going".... DH won't do that. He's too beaten into the ground by FIL.

So this is just about keeping your husband and son away from his parents. Okay that's different.

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:28

TeenToTwenties · 26/09/2026 06:24

I'd also just not tell them. It doesn't sound as if it would be at all helpful.

Husband might want to tell his parents he's in town and maybe even see them. He seems trapped between doing what they say or what the OP says.

SoThatsTheWayItIs · 26/09/2026 06:29

SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:23

@Potooooooooes yes, correct.

@Lexibletheflexible DS is 9, is obsessive about not passing on germs, and is quiet and well behaved, so woul dhappily sit reading a book or partaking in adult conversation. The difficulty here is (1) I can't drive there, DH can; and (2) I don't want DS spending time alone with PIL. There is a lot of background and I don't trust them. DH will always do as directed by FIL, so if FIL wants to give MIL alone time with DS, e.g. where she deliberately feeds DS foods he's allergic to, DH will let that happen. Thus I will go to visit PIL too, even though they refuse to have anything to do with me and treat me like a nanny.

All those saying "don't tell PIL you're going".... DH won't do that. He's too beaten into the ground by FIL.

Then you have a huge DH problem. He needs therapy and I would seriously contemplate calling time on the marriage than be dragged with your son into this toxic shit show.

If you can’t drive then it may be that some days your DH takes you and then goes to see his parents and then picks you up it goes to see them afterwards. Alternatively your mother will have to drive and you can do your best to support her and lighten the load elsewhere. I absolutely understand no circumstances would visit your in laws during this trip. Your DH has no reason to change the status quo if you keep enabling this by feeling you have no choice but to go along.

ElsieJay · 26/09/2026 06:30

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:27

So this is just about keeping your husband and son away from his parents. Okay that's different.

No, I just think OP wants her parents to be the priority on this occasion .
Not at all unreasonable in the circumstances.

ImmortalSnowman · 26/09/2026 06:31

Can you and your mum stay in a hotel near your dad for the week @SoTiredSoTiredSoTired ? DH and DS stay at home and DS goes to school.

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:32

ElsieJay · 26/09/2026 06:30

No, I just think OP wants her parents to be the priority on this occasion .
Not at all unreasonable in the circumstances.

OP went onto say she doesnt trust husband alone with son and his parents. She's made it clear this is a wider effort to keep them apart unless it is under her direct supervision.

TruffleSlinky · 26/09/2026 06:34

You don't need to say anything to PIL. You say it all to DH, and make it clear how important this is to you.

ImmortalSnowman · 26/09/2026 06:35

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:32

OP went onto say she doesnt trust husband alone with son and his parents. She's made it clear this is a wider effort to keep them apart unless it is under her direct supervision.

She also said her PIL feed her allergic child food that could potentially kill him (depending on his allergies) or at least make him sick. Would you put your child at risk to appease your husband who won't stop them? Active child abuse.

NerrSnerr · 26/09/2026 06:35

Sounds like it would be a lot easier if you could just go alone but that can’t happen due to not driving. Can this be remedied? (Throw money if you have it for intensive lessons etc). I’d rather do that and be independent and not rely on a husband who clearly doesn’t value me and lets me be treated so badly by my in-laws

TeenToTwenties · 26/09/2026 06:38

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:28

Husband might want to tell his parents he's in town and maybe even see them. He seems trapped between doing what they say or what the OP says.

Husband seems not able to put any boundaries in with his parents.

His primary duty right now should be to his wife supporting her ill parent.
He should be able to do that and see his parents, but it seems he can't.

PermanentTemporary · 26/09/2026 06:39

I agree with you and your mum staying near the rehab centre, and your Dh and son staying home, offering your PIL the chance to visit them without you there.

How possible is it for you to get nastier than your FIL to your H? In general it sounds like you need to lay down the law a lot more.

Jackospice · 26/09/2026 06:39

wouldnt worry about any of this op. Your dh is happy for you to go and not be fed or be allowed to talk, Whilst he and ds are?
he doesn’t care about you in that situation, you don’t need to care about him. Unbelievable. My dh who also hates confrontation with family, would hit the roof if his family treated me that way.

dh, I won’t be going at all. Ds won’t be going much. Do what you like, say what you like to them, not my problem.

sorry just read your update. Dh lets them feed ds food he’s allergic to? Ds wouldn’t be going either. He doesn’t need to be around those people who don’t care about him, his dad included really. I dunno how much I could look at a dh that didn’t protect me or ds tbh but appreciate you’ve got bigger issues right now. Do learn to drive asap if you’re able to.

Sulgari · 26/09/2026 06:39

Why can’t you drive @SoTiredSoTiredSoTired ?

TeenToTwenties · 26/09/2026 06:39

Could the DM be put up in a hotel near the hospital to save all the driving etc?

Summerhillsquare · 26/09/2026 06:41

If you are not 'allowed' to speak, eat and drink (or toilet?!) around these people and your son is force fed food he is allergic to (and what, consequently hospitalised?!) and you and your husband acquiess to this then it's gone way beyond any form of words we can offer you. I'm sorry, I assume this post is a cry for help, but what you are suggesting happens is basically abuse and only firm action will change it.

Mapletree1985 · 26/09/2026 06:42

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:28

Husband might want to tell his parents he's in town and maybe even see them. He seems trapped between doing what they say or what the OP says.

Poor guy. He needs to grow a spine, but OP might not like that.