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What to say to demanding PIL re limited time to visit them?

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SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:09

I need to work out what needs saying to PIL about our impending visit to their city. We will be there for 8 days in total.

The visit is specifically to help my mother deal with my father, who has had a stroke. Mother is driving 100km each way daily to visit him in a rehab hospital and is exhausted. We are visiting to help by driving her to the hospital and cooking her dinner each night. All of us will be involved in these trips, so that we all get time with my father and mother. The time spent with my father is likely to be an hour or so at most.

PIL live nearly an hour across the city in the other direction from my parents' place. They are fit, healthy, very used to getting their own way, and dare I say it, they like playing the main parts in their luxurious life with everyone else as extras.

When DH tells them about our visit, MIL will go into "poor little me" mode and wheedle at DH for just a few visits here and there (meaning: every day). DH will feel guilty and promise that he and DS will visit every day. FIL will go into shouting bulldog mode and phone up DH and bully him into a schedule worked out by FIL where DH has to bring DS to visit for exactly as many hours as are being spent with my parents, whether or not this suits anyone. DH will feel guilty and agree, because he always agrees with everything his father says. He always has.

Meanwhile DS will be stuck in the middle of all this and will be spending 5 hours a day in the car, being dragged around from one set of grandparents to the other. I will be required to play the nanny, required to come to visit PIL with DH and DS, but not actually allowed to partake in any part of the visit (no talking, no eating or drinking, etc), merely being there in case DS needs me.

Needless to say I don't want to do the PIL bit. DH claims also not to, but "wishes it would all go away" re his parents being demanding, and thus will agree to every single damn thing his father demands.

I've pointed out on many occasions that by always letting his father ride high-handedly over everyone else, DH is not behaving as a decent husband or father. He says he doesn't enjoy it, says it's all so weird, and then just lets it all happen again, every time. The weakness is profoundly unattractive. I am, however, completely dependent on DH at the moment.

What should DH say to PIL when he tells them about our trip?

My idea below:

"Dear PIL, we're visiting your city, however it is to help SoTired's parents because her father has had a stroke. We will be spending a very large amount of time on helping her mother and visiting her father, and it will be on an unpredictable schedule. We will not be able to visit you every day, so please don't request visits every day or even every second day."

...will undoubtedly result in a viciously demanding phonecall from FIL to which DH acquiesces.

OP posts:
Harrumphhhh · 26/09/2026 07:55

The whole trip sounds disastrous to be honest. There are too many factors at play. Too many differing priorities, unresolved conflict, complex relationships. None of them are going to get sorted at a highly emotional time when your dad has just had a stroke.

If you take the trip back to its absolute simplest: you want to help your mum and dad.

Are you able to focus on that, just for the week? Instead of all three of you going, leave DS and DH at home and use the money you would have spent on three flights on an Airbnb close to the rehab for you and mum. Spend the whole week devoted to her and your dad.

Afterwards, THEN start on the DH problem.

herbetta · 26/09/2026 07:57

Do you think your son's MH issues are related to your DH and his family dynamic? Do you think either has ADHD?

Either do not tell PIL you are going until near the last day - then tell them it's a day or one-night visit (and you all see them in way home) OR go alone and leave DH and son at home. You can do public transport/ taxis / stay near the hospital.

queenceleste · 26/09/2026 08:00

Harrumphhhh · 26/09/2026 07:55

The whole trip sounds disastrous to be honest. There are too many factors at play. Too many differing priorities, unresolved conflict, complex relationships. None of them are going to get sorted at a highly emotional time when your dad has just had a stroke.

If you take the trip back to its absolute simplest: you want to help your mum and dad.

Are you able to focus on that, just for the week? Instead of all three of you going, leave DS and DH at home and use the money you would have spent on three flights on an Airbnb close to the rehab for you and mum. Spend the whole week devoted to her and your dad.

Afterwards, THEN start on the DH problem.

This sounds much more practical.

Lsquiggles · 26/09/2026 08:00

If you don't have to tell them, don't.

I think your message is too open ended and could provoke them somewhat, saying you're going to spend lots of time with your parents will just make them jealous even if it is the truth.

Before they can give you their orders and book your DH up everyday, get in there first and say he'll see them X days for X amount of time.

thepariscrimefiles · 26/09/2026 08:02

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:45

Yeah doesnt ring true to me. It's a common ploy used to control children "only I can feed him without killing him".

Posters like you really piss me off. If you don't believe OP's version of events why are you even posting on the thread? It just derails it. You seem to prefer to pick holes in OP's account rather than providing any help or support to OP whose father has just had a stroke. Or do you not believe that either?

Happytaytos · 26/09/2026 08:05

Surely you recognise that your DS issues stem from your DH and his relationship with his parents.

Your DH let your child get hurt and be in pain. Personally I couldn't live with that.

The whole dynamic is a fuck up.

1coconut2coconut3coconut4 · 26/09/2026 08:10

I would investigate paying for an Air BNB near the hospital to see your dad for longer and facilitate less driving. Then hopefully you can also avoid DH dragging DS off too. 'Oh no sorry DH we are going to see your DPs on Monday as we agreed, if you want to go and see them before that's fine but you are not bringing DS.' Hold firm. Get in the way. I would tell PILs myself plans have changed (whixh they will have if you are staying near the hospital instead) and turn DH's phone off/turn the WiFi off or whatever to avoid PILs being able to harass him. That is obviously quite extreme behaviour that I wouldn't condone normally but I think he needs to see that this is the lengths you feel you have to resort to just to facilitate some time with your very unwell father.

AddledPeacock · 26/09/2026 08:11

Can you just leave DH andDS at home and go and support your DP? Or do you need him to drive there? I’d be more keen on using the money saved from them not going to use taxis if needed.

mintleavesandthyme · 26/09/2026 08:11

Just don’t tell them you’re there, visit the past day if you get round to it.

Flapjak · 26/09/2026 08:12

Harrumphhhh · 26/09/2026 07:55

The whole trip sounds disastrous to be honest. There are too many factors at play. Too many differing priorities, unresolved conflict, complex relationships. None of them are going to get sorted at a highly emotional time when your dad has just had a stroke.

If you take the trip back to its absolute simplest: you want to help your mum and dad.

Are you able to focus on that, just for the week? Instead of all three of you going, leave DS and DH at home and use the money you would have spent on three flights on an Airbnb close to the rehab for you and mum. Spend the whole week devoted to her and your dad.

Afterwards, THEN start on the DH problem.

This - if you live in a other country , save money on the flights and leave either your son and husband at home or just your husband if that's not possible and use money for a cheap Travelodge or air BnB, is there no public transport to the hospital ?

Astra53 · 26/09/2026 08:13

Do you need to say anything? Just go for the 8 days and do what you have to do. How will your in-laws know you are there unless you tell them? Why all the sharing of what you are doing and with whom?

allthingsinmoderation · 26/09/2026 08:15

SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:23

@Potooooooooes yes, correct.

@Lexibletheflexible DS is 9, is obsessive about not passing on germs, and is quiet and well behaved, so woul dhappily sit reading a book or partaking in adult conversation. The difficulty here is (1) I can't drive there, DH can; and (2) I don't want DS spending time alone with PIL. There is a lot of background and I don't trust them. DH will always do as directed by FIL, so if FIL wants to give MIL alone time with DS, e.g. where she deliberately feeds DS foods he's allergic to, DH will let that happen. Thus I will go to visit PIL too, even though they refuse to have anything to do with me and treat me like a nanny.

All those saying "don't tell PIL you're going".... DH won't do that. He's too beaten into the ground by FIL.

You have a DH problem,he's spineless and will put your childs health atr risk to please his DM and DF..........
Tell him to sort this out by:1. telling his DM and DF that you are visiting for the soul purpose of helping your DM with your DF and will not have time for social visits.

disturbia · 26/09/2026 08:17

SoTiredSoTiredSoTired · 26/09/2026 06:09

I need to work out what needs saying to PIL about our impending visit to their city. We will be there for 8 days in total.

The visit is specifically to help my mother deal with my father, who has had a stroke. Mother is driving 100km each way daily to visit him in a rehab hospital and is exhausted. We are visiting to help by driving her to the hospital and cooking her dinner each night. All of us will be involved in these trips, so that we all get time with my father and mother. The time spent with my father is likely to be an hour or so at most.

PIL live nearly an hour across the city in the other direction from my parents' place. They are fit, healthy, very used to getting their own way, and dare I say it, they like playing the main parts in their luxurious life with everyone else as extras.

When DH tells them about our visit, MIL will go into "poor little me" mode and wheedle at DH for just a few visits here and there (meaning: every day). DH will feel guilty and promise that he and DS will visit every day. FIL will go into shouting bulldog mode and phone up DH and bully him into a schedule worked out by FIL where DH has to bring DS to visit for exactly as many hours as are being spent with my parents, whether or not this suits anyone. DH will feel guilty and agree, because he always agrees with everything his father says. He always has.

Meanwhile DS will be stuck in the middle of all this and will be spending 5 hours a day in the car, being dragged around from one set of grandparents to the other. I will be required to play the nanny, required to come to visit PIL with DH and DS, but not actually allowed to partake in any part of the visit (no talking, no eating or drinking, etc), merely being there in case DS needs me.

Needless to say I don't want to do the PIL bit. DH claims also not to, but "wishes it would all go away" re his parents being demanding, and thus will agree to every single damn thing his father demands.

I've pointed out on many occasions that by always letting his father ride high-handedly over everyone else, DH is not behaving as a decent husband or father. He says he doesn't enjoy it, says it's all so weird, and then just lets it all happen again, every time. The weakness is profoundly unattractive. I am, however, completely dependent on DH at the moment.

What should DH say to PIL when he tells them about our trip?

My idea below:

"Dear PIL, we're visiting your city, however it is to help SoTired's parents because her father has had a stroke. We will be spending a very large amount of time on helping her mother and visiting her father, and it will be on an unpredictable schedule. We will not be able to visit you every day, so please don't request visits every day or even every second day."

...will undoubtedly result in a viciously demanding phonecall from FIL to which DH acquiesces.

Don't tell them this time

StormGazing · 26/09/2026 08:20

Jesus someone needs to tell your PILs no! I cannot BELIEVE you have to stay in a coffee shop - that’s insane!!
twll them it’s a family emergency so they will get one maybe 2 visits around your parents at this distressing time

PostmanPatAlwaysRingsTwice · 26/09/2026 08:21

Astra53 · 26/09/2026 08:13

Do you need to say anything? Just go for the 8 days and do what you have to do. How will your in-laws know you are there unless you tell them? Why all the sharing of what you are doing and with whom?

OP says her DH will tell them.

SmallGreenFrog · 26/09/2026 08:25

The whole dynamic is dysfunctional. Every single aspect of your life appears to be beset with issues. School, driving, work, your parents, his parents. Visiting your mum is the least of your issues. All of you seem hell bent on making what should be quite normal if stressful activities into insurmountable problems. Have any of you sought therapy to try and unpick the fact both you and DH appear to be repeating very unhealthy patterns to dealing with everyday life? For your sons sake please do it.

PinkEasterbunny · 26/09/2026 08:28

SoThatsTheWayItIs · 26/09/2026 06:21

You don’t need to say anything to inlaws. Your message to your husband is “I will be focussing on my parents and not be visiting yours. It is a stressful time and I would appreciate your support. If you have to prioritise your parents then you can do that alone. DS will be able to go with you if it fits around my schedule helping and visiting my father. If not you can go alone”

Step right back and stop facilitating this unhealthy dynamic.

Absolutely this

Genevieva · 26/09/2026 08:33

Don’t tell them about the trip.

TurtleMcTurtle · 26/09/2026 08:35

If you have a spineless DH, then use it in your favour.

Say no. Say you’re not going to visit PIL and he can’t take DS there as they will feed him food that make him ill.

Roar at him like your FIL does if that’s what’s needed, become a mummy bear to protect yourself DS.

If DH wants to visit them he can do, but you will be with your mum and dad and DS will be with you.

MoveOnTheCards · 26/09/2026 08:37

Sorry about your dad, @SoTiredSoTiredSoTired. That’s tough on you and your mum.

Have you posted about your in-laws before? They sound familiar from another relatively recent post. And a nightmare, along with DH’s attitude if so.

HideousKinky · 26/09/2026 08:42

As there is something of a crisis going on with your parents, the obvious solution is not to tell your in-laws about the trip.

The unhealthy dynamic between your DH and his parents does of course need to be addressed but this is not the time to do it

EatMoreChocolate44 · 26/09/2026 08:45

Lexibletheflexible · 26/09/2026 06:32

OP went onto say she doesnt trust husband alone with son and his parents. She's made it clear this is a wider effort to keep them apart unless it is under her direct supervision.

Her MIL will feed her grandson food he's allergic too and PIL's won't allow her to eat, drink or talk to her. They demand daily visits and they have to comply.

RosaNovella · 26/09/2026 08:46

SoThatsTheWayItIs · 26/09/2026 06:21

You don’t need to say anything to inlaws. Your message to your husband is “I will be focussing on my parents and not be visiting yours. It is a stressful time and I would appreciate your support. If you have to prioritise your parents then you can do that alone. DS will be able to go with you if it fits around my schedule helping and visiting my father. If not you can go alone”

Step right back and stop facilitating this unhealthy dynamic.

Agree
No JADE
Justify
Argue
Defend
Explain

They dont want to be reasonable, they are likely Narcissistic based on how they treat you and your DS
Just No

VC10vTristar · 26/09/2026 08:46

Or you notify your PIL only when you are a few days in, say that you came at short notice, would they like to travel an hour across the city and offer that you can all meet for lunch (in a location of your choice where you can choose the safe food for your DS).

And repeat once more before you leave?
You keep them at arms length, and they fit in with you.

Inevergotthatfar · 26/09/2026 08:47

Gosh your PIL sound like monsters and you sound really quite trapped. I'm sorry about your Dad's stroke. I think for this visit the PP suggestion is a good one, that you should go alone and you and your Mum stay in a hotel near the rehab place for your Dad and completely leave the rest of the family
out of it. I don't know how you avoid a toxic and unsafe situation arising otherwise.
Long term there's a lot of issues here isn't there. I can't believe how your DH allows your PIL to treat you like that and is so spineless he can't protect your DS from it without you there.