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DP secret debt - help

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Headspangle · 12/09/2026 22:39

Named changed but been ok here for years. Possibly outing myself with this thread but I am in desperate need of advice.
Been with DP for 7 years, 2 very young kids plus one teen each from previous relationship.
since the birth of our first baby together we have had the usual common issues of being distant, life imbalance, resentment, just general trenches of having young kids. However despite our difficulties and arguments I still held onto hope that once the kids got a bit older then things would get easier etc.
well long story short I’ve found out only once pushed that he has secretly got himself into £25k worth of debt. I went for an affordability meeting as we had been talking about moving and upgrading etc so when I had to ask him about any debts i was dumbfounded with what he told me. In fact, initially he said it was £15k which was bad enough but actually turns out it was much more. He said it got out of control and was using credit cards while money was tight and that although it’s a lot he’s on top of it - I’ve seen the credit report and his score is good but it’s still a huge debt and means all plans for the future and savings for holidays etc are out the window while he pays it back - for what he said is ‘only 4 years’ …
im livid and heartbroken and don’t know what to do. We have a mortgage but are not married. I love him and want our children to have stability but how can I trust him - he was always going to try keep it from me. On the one hand he has said sorry and it was wrong etc but then when I was crying and saying how heartbroken I am he said nothing and has made no plan for how he is going to rebuild my trust etc. he even got angry when I said I can’t believe he’s done this to our family and stormed out.
move also been a single parent for years with jy eldest and I can’t bare to go through it all again and uproot our lives - I’d be forced to relocate and lose my job I’ve worked hard for as couldn’t afford where we live now slone and have no support near me.
thoughts? Please be kind.

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ITMA2000 · 13/09/2026 08:22

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toastycold · 13/09/2026 08:23

So as a previous poster said; he’d rather lose you than show you the statements. This is not someone who has nothing to hide. So sorry OP.

AlphaApple · 13/09/2026 08:24

He’s definitely, definitely hiding something. Whether it’s gambling or something else.

Do you have any other clues as to what the money could have been spent on?

EarringsandLipstick · 13/09/2026 08:26

Headspangle · 13/09/2026 08:04

message he sent me this morning -

I’ve said this many times, but I am sorry for the hurt and stress that I’ve caused you. As I say, there weren’t any wild spends that led to this, just stuff building up over time and going out of control. I was foolish and made a mistake, but I’m managing that mistake. I’m still paying it and it will end over a certain period of time. I didn’t feel comfortable showing my statements, but I showed you the most recent to give you a picture. I’m trying to resolve this situation financially now. Going through all of my statements over the last few years isn’t going to solve anything. It’s not possible to go through it all anyway. My goal now is to resolve the situation I’ve put myself in as best possible. If I could go back in time I would, but I cant. Wherever you stand, I’ll respect. If you don’t want to be with me, then I understand. If it’s too much to continue or too much has happened, I get it. There’s no point in living with with resentment or living being resented

so he’s not going to show me…

Sorry OP, I hadn’t seen this when I last posted.

OP, I got many MANY messages of this kind over the long years I was with my H (17 until we separated). I actually feel quite sick, as it’s so similar to what I used to read from my ex.

This is gaslighting.

He may ‘mean’ this in the moment. But he is not accepting responsibility or being honest. And so, it’ll happen again & again, and get worse. And as you are not married while that protects you against his debt, it also leaves you vulnerable in terms of your entitlements after separation.

First of all, tell someone in real life. As hard as it is. You need someone to know and be beside you (I didn’t do this & shouldered the issue for years, all alone).

Secondly, give him one final ultimatum. He shows you everything. He commits to change. Or it’s over. And mean it.

I promise you, no matter how hard life is without him, it will be much worse with him, if he is not willing to change. (Bitter experience and wishing I’d taken my own advice).

parkezvous · 13/09/2026 08:28

Silverbirchleaf · 12/09/2026 23:12

If he genuinely wants to rebuild trust, then he needs total visability, and you need access everything.

However £25 k is a huge amount. How long has this accrued over? If over five years, then £5000 a year is only £100 a week, which soon goes on coffees, meal, clothes for the kids, car repairs etc . Over £25 k over a year is two grand per month. Inexcusable.

If he’s not willing to show you his spending, then he’s hiding something whether it’s gambling, further debt, prostitutes etc.

This hits the nail on the head.

YourJoyousDenimExpert · 13/09/2026 08:29

Long term relationships need trust in order to survive. You don’t have this now and DP does not appear to be willing to be completely transparent in order to start to rebuild the trust. By not disclosing everything, he is asking you to trust him that there is no more to tell - but how can you?

Brutally, at this point you still have the house and could extract your deposit. This could be jeopardised in the future as you cannot trust him about his current financial position. I appreciate you don’t want to go it alone - but that may be your best option.
In your position, I would tell him you can’t continue in a situation where he is asking you to trust him over the money as you have no evidence that that is a sensible thing to do. Say that he is not trusting you with the info you need for reassurance, yet are asking you to trust him when he has been so deceitful. That is neither reasonable nor fair. Be calm and leave him with that for a bit.
If there is still no change in the disclosure, then get your ducks lined up ……

parkezvous · 13/09/2026 08:33

If he really wants to be with you and sort this out he would be so open and transparent. He is avoiding the truth here op. I’d be asking for statements or it’s over.

Headspangle · 13/09/2026 08:34

Thnk you all your responses are helping a lot. I wouldn’t be able to claim UC as my deposit is in the tens of thousands and so I’d have to piss it all away on renting somewhere that will provide us with no stability

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treesocks23 · 13/09/2026 08:36

I was ready to say that you could get through this and perhaps it was just trying to keep lifestyle for both of you when costs went up and that money can add up quickly with smaller spends and interest. However, the bit I can’t get on board with is your update with his message saying he categorically can’t (or won’t) show you statements. That worries me. If he really wants to address it, he’d show you statements, work out what’s gone where and figure a plan with you. If he isn’t willing to do that then I don’t see you can trust him again realistically.

Btsstew · 13/09/2026 08:37

‘I’d rather you left me than show you my expenses’ does not sound right OP.

DopeyS · 13/09/2026 08:37

My gut would tell me he's hiding something else. Surely if he wanted to work it all out and regain your trust then he'd di what he could to put you at ease.
I had the same with my stbxh. Nearly didn't get our house because he was overdrawn and spending large amounts on lottery sites. Then £4000 overdrawn when he assured me it had been paid off and sorted. It's really hard to trust someone when they break your trust and there response is pretty much making you feel guilty for not putting faith in them and they won't lay their cards out.

How do you trust it won't happen again?

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 13/09/2026 08:38

What @treesocks23 said.

If he won't show you the statements he is hiding something and you can't trust him.

I am sorry, OP. It is a horrible situation for you.
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Headspangle · 13/09/2026 08:40

He said he’s told his mum now. That it was eating him up etc. shall I message her and saying he won’t be transparent ? He might be angry at me getting her involved. I don’t know what else I can do

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jackstini · 13/09/2026 08:41

He’s still lying in that message saying looking over the last 3-4 years will not solve anything

Firstly, you absolutely need to know details of previous outgoings in order to solve how to budget for the future

Secondly, it will go towards solving the lack of trust you now have in him

How dare he say he won’t live with being resented?! Of course you are going to resent him for this shit show

Definitely check your own credit record to make sure there is no debt in your name

If he will not come clean and show willing, your relationship is over anyway

I do wonder if he wanted to be found out what else did he think would happen in an affordability meeting?!

stayathomegardener · 13/09/2026 08:42

I think you need to respond to that message in writing so nothing can be twisted later.
I would refute that this is a situation ‘I have put myself in’ this absolutely affects both of you.
I would also reject ‘it’s not possible to go through it all anyway’ of course it is. Does he think you are a fool or is he that delusional himself?

You need to set out your own non negotiables in writing, for me that would be just one thing , full view of all statements and a timeline.

If he cannot provide that right now I would have estate agents booked for a valuation with a view to selling asap.

Protect yourself and your children.

TheKindnessProject · 13/09/2026 08:43

I think there is something really unpleasantly slippery about this message, because although it reads as apologetic and reasonable, he is setting out his version of what happened as established fact while continuing to withhold the information that would allow you to establish that for yourself. He tells you there were no “wild spends” and that it was simply things building up over time, but given that he successfully hid the debt from you, I’m not sure why you should now be expected to accept his reassurance about what the statements contain while he refuses to let you see them.

“I’m managing that mistake” is doing quite a lot of work too, because he has decided what the problem is and therefore what resolving it looks like. In his account, the problem is the debt, he has a plan to pay it off, and looking through the statements will not “solve anything”. Yet the much bigger problem now seems to be that you have discovered he is capable of seriously deceiving you, so you understandably no longer know whether what he tells you is true. Seeing the statements might help you establish whether his explanation stacks up, whether you now know everything and whether there is any basis for rebuilding trust.

He's positioning your need for that as unreasonable, even coming up with shite like "I can't go back in time", like you literally asked him to time travel and I'm just being oh so reasonable and, I mean, I can't time travel".

I find the ending particularly disturbing, especially given what you have said about him becoming angry and storming out when you challenged him. “Wherever you stand, I’ll respect” sounds very reasonable, sure , but then he moves to understanding if you don’t want to be with him and finally to “there’s no point in living with resentment or living being resented”. I find it very difficult not to hear an implicit threat in that, because that's how he wants you to feel.

He has done something which has given you extremely good reason to resent and mistrust him, yet he is already introducing the possibility that the relationship cannot continue if you remain resentful. He knows you feel stuck there with small children, and he's outright threatening your safety and security by blackmailing you to shut up. "If you stay like a naggy old shrew about all this, I'm going to make you scared I'll leave you" would have been a more honest read of that part.

There is an entirely legitimate position in which you choose to stay while remaining angry, asking difficult questions, requiring complete transparency and taking however long you need to decide whether he can be trusted again. His message leaves bugger all room for that. He has a plan, he cannot change the past, looking at the statements supposedly achieves nothing, and if you remain resentful then the relationship is over.

For me, the debt is almost secondary now. The bigger issue is what he has shown you about his trustworthiness and what he does when that trustworthiness is questioned. He concealed the debt, became angry when challenged, still refuses to provide the information that would allow you to verify what he is saying, and is now beginning to position your reaction to his dishonesty as a potential problem for the relationship. He seems to want you to trust him again while denying you the means of deciding for yourself whether that trust is warranted, and at the same time is already setting limits around how he expects you to feel about what he has done.

This was a shitty thing to do, and it's not about the debt. It's about how he'll lie, turn any legitimate feelings you have into an implicit threat to leave you, and make your feelings the problem. I wouldn't stay for this one. You only get one life. I've watched a colleague live through this and it broke her over time.

toomuchheatintheroom · 13/09/2026 08:43

Headspangle · 13/09/2026 08:34

Thnk you all your responses are helping a lot. I wouldn’t be able to claim UC as my deposit is in the tens of thousands and so I’d have to piss it all away on renting somewhere that will provide us with no stability

just to add some reassurance here - this isn’t true. They offer you six months of ring-fencing (excluding) proceeds from a house sale/deposit from UC calculations (it works out cheaper for them than paying folks rent long term) - so you would get UC whilst ring-fencing your deposit as long as you are actively searching/proceeding with a property purchase. I would recommend speaking to CAB - and explain your situation fully - they are brilliant and will talk you through what to do UC money wise! i hope this helps and good luck OP x

TheKindnessProject · 13/09/2026 08:45

Headspangle · 13/09/2026 08:40

He said he’s told his mum now. That it was eating him up etc. shall I message her and saying he won’t be transparent ? He might be angry at me getting her involved. I don’t know what else I can do

Poor old him, being all eaten up with these lies. My heart is just shredded for him. My colleague's husband used to come out with this bollocks when he got caught spending, but really it just helped him rinse his parents down for cash which they handed over to stop my colleague leaving him.

FannybygaslightinGovan · 13/09/2026 08:45

There's a reason he's 'not comfortable' showing you his statements.

He is not to be trusted.

DreamyRedNewt · 13/09/2026 08:50

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/09/2026 23:10

Did you not know you were struggling financially as a family OP? Lying is never right but with 2 ‘very young children’ 25k on bills etc is a huge amount of money in a short amount of time, did you think he earnt a lot more than he does, or do you think he’s lying and was gambling or something?

I was wondering exactly this.
If this went on bills and food, that is a crazy amount of money for a few months.
Also, you had to know when on maternity leave, how much money you were getting, how much his wage was and if the total was enough to cover everything fl the family.

I am not excusing his behaviour but I really don't understand that if there wasn't enough money coming in, you dind't know or didn't discuss how would you go about it.

chirrupybird · 13/09/2026 08:51

It's probably not a huge amount a month over 3 years and then it also accumulates interest. I would believe him that it wasn't for any nefarious purpose, but just crept up on him over time. This is the problem with debt it seems like a good idea to put things on credit cards knowing you can't pay it off this month, but thinking it will be fine to pay it off in a couple of months, but somehow it never is and suddenly all you can afford is to pay the interest. And when you realise you are in real trouble it's difficult to admit how stupid you've been.

Gateappreciation · 13/09/2026 08:51

That message reminds me of cheating dh’s who only end an affair because they’ve been caught, not because they want to. Until you discovered the debt, he would have continued as normal.

Another vote for he’s hiding something.

menopausequeen · 13/09/2026 08:55

Yep he’s hiding something. That’s why he won’t show you. There could be worse to come.
sorry but I advise getting out now after you’ve checked what you are responsible for.

ChamonixMountainBum · 13/09/2026 08:56

I ended a relationship over undisclosed credit card debt. Sorry, life is too short to be fire fighting the problems caused by shit credit scores and compromised disposable income. I get that some debt is caused by completely unforeseen circumstances, but mostly it is caused by addiction issues and piss poor financial discipline. Sorry, not my problem.

SueFlay12 · 13/09/2026 08:56

Headspangle · 13/09/2026 08:40

He said he’s told his mum now. That it was eating him up etc. shall I message her and saying he won’t be transparent ? He might be angry at me getting her involved. I don’t know what else I can do

Leave him