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Feeling hurt that in laws help other sibling when our baby arrives

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RealRosePoet · 28/08/2026 18:52

I’m currently pregnant with our fourth and last child. We’re trying to plan childcare for when the time comes, if we need support during non nursery / school hours.

My parents are older, and have health issues from cancer so can’t help. We have friends that can support us but our main hope was my in laws. They live in Manchester but have a place nearby us in Scotland too.

We’ve got friends who have kindly offered to help us out but I wanted to get some thoughts on why we couldn’t have my in laws help, to see if we are overreacting by being a bit hurt.

Basically, my sister in law lives in Australia and has a son at school. My other sister in law lives there too (they are neighbours) and is a teacher so gets school holidays. The holidays in Australia are when our baby is due - to be exact our due date is the second last week of their holidays. When we asked if our in laws could help, they said no because my sister in law can’t afford holiday clubs and has asked them to go out there for the full 6 weeks to look after their son. We asked if there was any possibility if they could come back early - because we thought perhaps my SIL and BIL could manage some of it themselves but my MIL has said it’s a firm no, they’ve got to be fair and that my SIL needs them more.

However, my MIL has said the moment she’s back she’s coming to meet the baby and wasn’t happy when we said she would need to wait a week or so because we’d rather she not see the baby straight after a long haul flight.

My DH is v upset about it all because his parents always put his eldest sister first in many situations over the years. Are we overreacting by feeling a bit hurt?

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Theboymolefoxandhorse · 01/09/2026 06:42

Packofsix · 01/09/2026 06:39

But OP wants them to come back early to help. Not going to be much help if they can’t help because they can’t see baby……

This bit is confusing to me too - as OPhas stated it would only be the newborn that she would want them away from after the flight in view of illnesses - which would make sense but as other PP have stated - if the newborn isn’t been quarantined from siblings then surely everyone is being exposed

Packofsix · 01/09/2026 06:44

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user1497787065 · 01/09/2026 06:55

My PILs always put their daughters first. My DH is the first born and has two sisters each with children. Some older and some younger. If I ever asked my PILs to have our DC, which was rare, they always had to check with their daughters first. I only asked for the odd doctors or dentists appointment never routinely. My PIL looked after my SIL for a two week holiday as they ‘needed to rest’.

I’m sorry but this will not change and it is easier to just get used to it and know that in their eyes you, your DH and DC are seen as third rate.

SpicyMargFTW · 01/09/2026 06:56

Wow.

Question to those who think OP is unreasonable for being hurt, and have taken the "your responsibility, just get on with it" approach - is that how you would treat your own child, family member or close friend?

If a close relative of mine was expecting a baby, and needed help during labour / birth / pre and post-natal complications, I'd want to help. Having children is a fact of life. It's not some luxury holiday.

OP hasn't asked for help raising or funding her 4th child - she wants help just at the point of labour / birth, and for her husband to be able to attend with her. That is not unreasonable. Partners can provide incredible support during that time and keeping a labouring mother calm / happy massively impacts on positive outcomes for both mother and child.

OP's in-laws quite obviously favour their other children / grandchildren. Yes, it's their prerogative but it's understandably hurtful to OP. And it sounds as though this is the straw that broke the camel's back. There has clearly been zero consideration for OP and her husband, against MIL spending almost half a year, on the other side of the world, to support her daughter with childcare. The amount of people who say mothers often favour daughters over sons, as if that's justification, are completely twisted. My parents love me and my brother equally and I'd hate for them to favour me just because I'm female and he isn't. It's behaviour that is frequently demonstrated but it is not ok. Again, I ask those saying "it is what it is, just suck it up" - would you treat your own children in that way?

To OP, if the question was are you being unreasonable to expect the in-laws to travel home earlier, then I think there are a few things to consider... First, had the in-laws agreed to childmind for your SIL prior to learning you were expecting? If so, then they are in a slightly tricky position because they would have to renege on a promise to SIL and there are, of course, the logistical challenges of ensuring they are home 3-4 weeks prior to your due date so that they can quarantine for a week and be on hand if the baby comes early. Is this something that they have mentioned? I get the impression from your post that you would be open to reason but it's the apparent out of hand nature of the "no" that has irked you - as if there hasn't been such a consideration. In which case, I totally understand you being upset. The outcome could have been the same but if it felt reasoned with you, then the upset likely wouldn't be there. Am I in the right ball-park?

My brother and his wife are expecting a baby, very soon. My husband and I have a weekend away booked around that time (with my parents looking after our little one) - it's been in the diary since before the pregnancy announcement came. The timing means that the new arrival will definitely be here by then but, had it been the case there could have been an overlap, we would never have expected my parents to hold up their promise to babysit for the night at the expense of not being on hand for my brother, his wife and their new arrival. We'd have found an alternative (likely cancelled the trip because my parents are the only people who help us with childcare) because that's more important than our weekend plans!

I don't understand how people don't feel enough decency (let alone love) to want to help out their family when they're welcoming a new baby into the world. It's such a rare, intense, special, scary occasion and, I'd have thought, trumps pretty much anything else. Those who say you should just get on with it must be those sorts of people.

There's also an enormous amount of hypocrisy here - OP shouldn't expect help from others (she literally cannot care for her children whilst forcing a child out of her vagina or being cut open to have the baby removed from her body) yet it's absolutely rational for SIL to require help with childcare cover for the school holidays?

And to those who say the OP should have planned her due date better... Christ! You've clearly no idea how tricky conception can be for so many people.

I feel as though there are too many simple minds on MN who take the easy route of bashing an OP who's asked for help or is upset when there is favouritism, entirely on the grounds of "your bed, you lie in it", when I expect the reality is those people making such comments would actually help their family / friends because they're probably not the complete twats they come across as whilst OP-bashing.

Couldn't sleep, hence essay.

OP, take a deep breath. I can entirely understand why you're hurt but allowing yourself to stew on those feelings (no matter how justified) won't make you feel any better. Neither will considering future resentment (which is almost a certainty). You're expecting a baby and that is wonderful. Focus your energy on what will be a beautiful experience. Make plans with friends to help you and get your children excited for the adventure of staying with others. Take a step back from your in-laws for now, put a pin in the relationship and address your and your husband's feelings a few months after the birth (when you, your hormones and life have settled down). Ask your husband to speak to them openly and honestly - you feel as though they favour his sisters and it hurts. Whether they actually do, or not, or think they do, or not, those are your feelings and it's up to them if they want to try to alter those feelings. If they don't, then they should expect that you will behaving towards them in a way that reflects how they make you feel.

My husband had to have a similar conversation with his parents, relatively recently. It was basically on the same lines of the above, with the addition of "we've really tried and you've made no effort, we won't be making any further effort unless you step up". They didn't fully accept what he said (much centred around MIL who lies) but they did accept the sentiment and they've been making an enormous effort, since. They even looked after our (very calm, quiet and easy) child for a few hours (first time in 5 years).

MrPickles73 · 01/09/2026 07:01

With families you are best managing your expectations.. both my in-laws are dead, my mother is dead my dad is 91. I asked my mum when my daughter was born would she look after her one day a week and she said no thanks and that was the end of it.

Your brother has two sisters in Australia, your parents in law go for a third of the year and they've already committed to go for the school summer holidays and now you want them to change their plans? Honestly you've no chance of success. Just move on and find a friend / nanny to help you.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/09/2026 07:08

Absolutelynot2 · 01/09/2026 05:31

Oh well, never mind. They're not going to do it, so that's that.

With any luck she'll post an update for you where she punishes them mightily for daring to say no and refusing to disrupt their lives for her. Then you can wipe the drool from your chin and shudder with satisfaction.

Edited

Don't be ridiculous. I just hate people that are obviously relishing kicking the OP when she's down (and they are the ones drooling and shuddering with satisfaction at giving her a good kicking) and, unfortunately, there are loads of them on this thread.

5128gap · 01/09/2026 07:22

Theboymolefoxandhorse · 01/09/2026 06:39

I think therein lies the problem - you can’t compare yourselves to others only the situation you’re in. Are your friends actually in the same like for like situation ? As in they have parents in law who for the last 15 years have always travelled abroad for 4 months to see grandchildren I suspect they won’t see for the other 8 months of the year? I only ask because it would be quite a coincidence for your friends to have identical situation to you.

I get completely why it’s upsetting for you and your partner. To you, it feels like they could just rearrange the holiday and that their daughter’s children’s childcare “trumps” your situation of being in hospital. However, I also have 3 siblings and the truth is you can’t parent all four of your children exactly the same. I spent many of my childhood thinking “that’s not fair, so and so got that etc whereas I didn’t ” - and the bottom line is sometimes fair doesn’t mean equal. As others have said, they might see it as only having 4 months with their other grandchildren and wanting to maximise the holidays with them. I do find it strange that they have never offered to help with any childcare/ holidays at all though. It doesn’t sounds like you’re particularly close so although upsetting, probably not surprising that they haven’t dropped everything to be with newborns as been other friends experience.

I also have family that live abroad and it’s really hard not seeing them regularly. My own mother spends 6 months of the year in another country to spend it with my grandmother and I wouldn’t want to begrudge her that even if it when I had another child and needed support (although circumstances are different and my Nana is frail / dementia etc). I don’t think it’s as simple as who do you think is more important.

If your DH is really upset then he should take it up with his parents. Especially as one of your posts (not the original one) is stating that they could change the trip and still be able to help both families - if this is really the case then this should be discussed with the SIL and with PIL to see if an arrangement can be had with where everyone’s needs are met

OP is also comparing two daughters who have only 4 months a year to see their parents, and who when they do, have them full time, fully involved in their families, useful and part of things; with a son who only wants them in a crisis and is happy to go along with not allowing them to meet his baby because...germs.
If the parents are prioritising their daughters over their son, their son probably needs to consider how much a part of their lives he usually makes them. Because if they're not that involved, then they're going to make plans without factoring him in.

Negroniextra · 01/09/2026 07:25

Hycosaneyedrops · 28/08/2026 19:19

YABVU. I actually can’t believe you asked them to return early!

Stop having kids that you can’t manage without support.
Your level of entitlement is ridiculous.

Sorry - this.

WhatNoRaisins · 01/09/2026 07:28

From the in laws perspective it's really hard living so far away from your children and grandchildren. It could be that going out there every year and spending their long school holidays together has become very precious time that they don't want to miss out on.

I think people do make assumptions with bigger families especially when they themselves feel that they couldn't cope with more than 1 or 2. The fact that you've chosen to have a 4th without a lot of support from extended families means people will assume that you're "a coper". In any case I think you're better off reaching out to friends that are more local for childcare during the birth or being prepared to give birth alone.

Bonkers2026 · 01/09/2026 07:35

Its crap, but at least you know where you stand.

Delphiniumandlupins · 01/09/2026 07:45

They have agreed to cover the school holidays in Australia. If they come back to provide childcare for you, surely they would need to allow that your baby might arrive early? So they would need to miss 3 weeks of the school holidays, on the off-chance that you need them to look after your 3 older DC. And, if your baby is born soon after they get back, they won't be allowed to meet them for a week.

Lovenewshoes · 01/09/2026 07:51

I think your husband should stay at home with the 3 children and maybe your mum could come with you to the hospital for a bit? I know she’s disabled but she could stay at yours and then travel with you to the hospital? Might be a quick birth as this is your fourth. It’s a big ask for someone to look after three children that aren’t theirs.

Do they usually go to Aus at that time of year? If so it’s not personal. They have two children and grandchildren out there that they can’t see whenever they want.

Goinggreymammy · 01/09/2026 07:53

Cheeky19863 · 01/09/2026 01:36

Why cant you look after your own children? You chose to have them, theyre your responsibilty not your in-laws!

Why can't the daughter in Australia look after her own one child? She is insisting the in-laws stay on 6 weeks after their 4 month holiday to look after her one DC.
The OP can't "look after her own children" for 1-2 days because children are not allowed in the labour ward. Her DH can look after them most of that but naturally she wants him there while she actually gives birth, or potentially has a major operation (section) . And he naturally wants to be there for the birth of his child.
Hope this helps.

Goinggreymammy · 01/09/2026 07:58

5128gap · 01/09/2026 07:22

OP is also comparing two daughters who have only 4 months a year to see their parents, and who when they do, have them full time, fully involved in their families, useful and part of things; with a son who only wants them in a crisis and is happy to go along with not allowing them to meet his baby because...germs.
If the parents are prioritising their daughters over their son, their son probably needs to consider how much a part of their lives he usually makes them. Because if they're not that involved, then they're going to make plans without factoring him in.

OP said that her DH often travels to his parents to help them out.
I wonder how often the two golden children in Australia do the boring helping out jobs for their parents!!!!!
And OP has already clarified that the pIL spend 4 months in Australia each year. The 6 weeks summer holidays are now added onto that. So thats 5.5 months over there.

Goinggreymammy · 01/09/2026 08:01

Has everyone talking about the PIL letting down the daughter for holiday chikdcare missed the bit in the OP where the daughter in Australia has a sister who lives near her who is a teacher and off for the school holidays. So she could help to mind her nephew if they don't want to use holiday clubs or paid for care.

PangolinFriend · 01/09/2026 08:01

I think you need to stop posting on internet forums and go tell your PIL that you both feel they regularly prioritise their daughters and are hurt by that. In a spirit of seeing each others' point of view and trying to fix the problem before it escalates. It is much harder than posting on here but much more likely to give you answers.

AllIneedAreMyFamilyandDogs · 01/09/2026 08:10

Goinggreymammy · 01/09/2026 08:01

Has everyone talking about the PIL letting down the daughter for holiday chikdcare missed the bit in the OP where the daughter in Australia has a sister who lives near her who is a teacher and off for the school holidays. So she could help to mind her nephew if they don't want to use holiday clubs or paid for care.

There may be reasons she can't, or doesn't want to. The sister is no more entitled to help with childcare from her sister than she is to help from her parents. The parents are choosing to provide this care, have for a while, and it's something they always do. They are torn between children and have chosen to honour the existing arrangement. They can't be in two places at once.

Would love to hear the parents' side of this.

If OP is bitter about helping them out then they can encourage them to outsource more help to those in the trades, or whatever. With a family of young children, that would be quite reasonable anyway, even if they helped with the birth.

Queenncat · 01/09/2026 08:12

Did they help you with your first, second and third child/ren?

Dependsoncontext · 01/09/2026 08:14

I don't think you are overeacting at all. I can see why your husband would be upset. I think help for a family having a baby arriving should definitely come first, especially if you don't have other help from your own parents/friends.

I also think your son should tell his parents how he feels.

5128gap · 01/09/2026 08:16

Goinggreymammy · 01/09/2026 07:58

OP said that her DH often travels to his parents to help them out.
I wonder how often the two golden children in Australia do the boring helping out jobs for their parents!!!!!
And OP has already clarified that the pIL spend 4 months in Australia each year. The 6 weeks summer holidays are now added onto that. So thats 5.5 months over there.

I don't know why you're calling them golden children. It's often the case that daughters involve their parents more with their families than sons do. There are of course exceptions, but its a pattern nonetheless. And certainly a pattern that women do more to help their elderly parents than men.
We see countless examples on here of paternal grandparents feeling pushed out, of women wanting to keep MiLs in their place and their husbands passively going along with it. Of women running round after parents while their brothers do little to nothing.
No reason to assume the opposite applies here.

Ilovemyfam · 01/09/2026 08:28

RealRosePoet · 28/08/2026 19:36

@Airconfan thank you, you get where I’m coming from.

I get where you are coming from. I am a granny with two DD and GC almost the same age. I would hate to have to choose who to prioritize. Your situation sounds complex.

I have not read the whole thread, but I assume the Australia trip is annual. It is not just about the cost of childcare - they could have saved on the flights and given that to their daughter to pay for childcare. It is about the time they spend with other GC. They are probably more accustomed to spending time with Australian GC because you have just got on with it when caring for your 3. Given that babies have a habit of not coming on the day they are supposed to maybe coming back early might not work anyway.

I wonder how they expressed their inability to come to the birth. Did they acknowledge that they were upset? Did they acknowledge that the daughters were getting more help than their son and so offer how they would make up by helping out a lot when they get home?

As to you not letting them see the baby for 7 days. I think it is reasonable but could come across as sour grapes. I would simply insist on the wearing masks and not holding the baby or kissing any of the other three. That seems sensible.

I hope that you find someone to look after your children during the birth. Your partner needs to be there.

Ilovemyfam · 01/09/2026 08:30

Queenncat · 01/09/2026 08:12

Did they help you with your first, second and third child/ren?

Edited

That is an important point that I forgot about

AWomanOfWealthAndTaste · 01/09/2026 08:57

Theboymolefoxandhorse · 01/09/2026 06:42

This bit is confusing to me too - as OPhas stated it would only be the newborn that she would want them away from after the flight in view of illnesses - which would make sense but as other PP have stated - if the newborn isn’t been quarantined from siblings then surely everyone is being exposed

Same. It doesn't sound like OP has thought this through. PILs looking after older DC for what could be several days, given OPs medical history, means them handing back 3 older children who've potentially been exposed to whatever their grandparents picked up on the plane.

I understand the concern about plane exposure with this family's health history, but in that case it's not a good idea to make any plans involving people who've recently flown.

2O26 · 01/09/2026 08:57

WeDid2 · 01/09/2026 06:29

So I totally get why you would want a gap between a long haul flight and seeing a new born baby.

you wanted them to cut holiday short for the birth - so with building in a gap due to long haul flight and extra time to factor in birth might be earlier than due date - how many weeks were you expecting them to drop from their holiday if they were only going for six weeks already? How many weeks were they realistically going to be able to go for? With time difference of 7-10 hrs depending on state triggering jet lag / being elderly it’s not great going to Oz for less than 3-4 weeks.

Edited

The in-laws are going for their annual 4 month visit plus are adding on an additional 6 weeks to look after the daughter's child over the holidays.

GentlePanda · 01/09/2026 09:01

Her children live at the other side of the world. They may want to spend 6 weeks there to see their children as well as looking after their grandchildren!
They can see you anytime.
My parents and in laws live a few hours from me so are not actively involved in our childcare which has been difficult over the years. My parents help with my nieces several days a week.
Unfortunately you just have to make alternative arrangements when you have no family to help and accept it. Grandparents are not obliged to help with childcare.

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