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The Dating Thread 61 - High Summer High Jinks 🍾πŸ₯‚

626 replies

Nosdacariad · 19/07/2026 14:47

The Rules:
-The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating
-Develop a thick skin
-Do not invest emotionally too soon
-It’s all BS until it actually happens
-Trust your gut instinct
-People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault
-Know your worth
-If it's not fun, stop
-Loo update is mandatory
-No dating the thread
-Treat others as you'd like to be treated
-Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with
-The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future
If you're wondering if you're being too picky/should give another chance after the second chance/should try harder - the answer is invariably NO! You're not and you shouldn't. If this, now, is as good as it's going to get, the A game, then do you want what comes next?!
-OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item*

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empirebiscuits12 · 22/07/2026 19:41

LenaFromTheNineties · 22/07/2026 19:38

I don't think I fit any of his three 'Archetypes' either @empirebiscuits12 but it is interesting that he seems to be encountering those.

I am 29 and I suppose he is 30 now. I messaged him with this. Will be interesting if he responds.

'What do you think women in their late 20s / early 30s could generally be doing to improve their dating prospects? Give me three suggestions.'

Ask him if he has any advice for mid-40s too πŸ˜‚

MrFlintstone · 22/07/2026 20:44

@empirebiscuits12 please don't put yourself down, you are attractive for anyone, and never think otherwise.

It's all quiet for me, no likes and no matches, not to worry.

LenaFromTheNineties · 22/07/2026 20:48

He's on a roll with his replies. I'm tidying them up to post. My extra question was to ask for three things men in general could do to up their game. I'll post later on.

LenaFromTheNineties · 22/07/2026 21:13

My extra question was about women in their forties @empirebiscuits12 and he is close to sending an essay on that. Before we get to that, this is tidied up a little from the messages and starts with women 25-35 or so. Remember it is HIS opinion and he is no guru, but he clearly has given all this some thought.

Late twenties, early thirties. That's a sweet spot, isn't it? Old enough to know what you want, young enough to still have the energy for it. Three things to do better.

First one: stop treating dating like a job interview. Half the profiles I see from that age bracket read like a CV. "I'm looking for someone who is ambitious, emotionally intelligent, financially stable, and enjoys travel." It's a shopping list, not an invitation. The women who get my attention are the ones who write about how they make me feel, not what they expect me to be. "I want someone who makes me laugh until I snort" is worth a hundred "must be ambitious" lines.

Second one: learn to close. So many of them are brilliant at the chat stage, funny and engaging, but when it comes to actually agreeing to meet, they freeze. They'll talk for two weeks, exchange a hundred messages, and then ghost when you suggest a specific time and place. The ones who say "Thursday at seven works, here's a spot I've been wanting to try" are the ones who I reckon end up in actual relationships. The ones who keep saying "maybe next week" are the ones still single five years later wondering where all the good men went.

Third one: stop trying to read minds. They'll have a list of unspoken expectations a mile long, and then get frustrated when you don't meet them. The women who are successful at this, whether they're after something serious or something casual, are the ones who say what they mean. "I want to be spoiled" is fine. "I'm not ready for anything serious" is fine. "I'd like to take things slow" is fine. Just say it. The guessing game is exhausting, and it's the fastest way to make a decent bloke lose interest.

bluelightwonder · 22/07/2026 21:23

@Nosdacariadobsessed with his ex, and started pulling away so my gut instinct was to end it :(

Mildred007 · 22/07/2026 21:44

empirebiscuits12 · 22/07/2026 19:40

He does, but we shall see! I’m done getting my hopes up, and can see it in others across this thread. But I’ll try to stay positive! He’s very good looking but not in a pretty boy type of way, and has a decent job from what I’ve seen on his profile.

I sometimes wonder if good looking guys are maybe too good looking for me, if that makes sense? I don’t think I’m ugly and see myself as attractive, but a lot of the time I don’t think I’m attractive enough for men who look like this. So I tend to skip on past them. Took a bit of a punt on this one though πŸ˜‚

I do exactly the same, scroll past ones I think would never look at me and I wouldn't say I'm unattractive, I just think there must be better looking women on there & that they wouldn't be interested in me.

Funnily enough I mentioned this to my friends IRL Friday night & they told me not to be so silly, that these men would be lucky to have me & what's the worst that could happen if I swipe right.

I guess we need to stop doing ourselves (& them lol) a disservice...

Mildred007 · 22/07/2026 21:52

My Mr Sport did end up messaging me the other day... without me caving & messaging first haha. Only heard from him a couple of times this morning & nothing else since but I feel better about it if that's the pattern iyswim.

I don't think this one is going anywhere though, just a lot of flirtiness without any actual chat/depth & still not followed up with an actual date to meet. Enjoying the flirt but without getting attached.. and will carry on swiping...

Received a message this morning from the ex I've mentioned on here before asking if I fancied popping over to catch up next weekend...

Nosdacariad · 22/07/2026 21:55

empirebiscuits12 · 22/07/2026 19:40

He does, but we shall see! I’m done getting my hopes up, and can see it in others across this thread. But I’ll try to stay positive! He’s very good looking but not in a pretty boy type of way, and has a decent job from what I’ve seen on his profile.

I sometimes wonder if good looking guys are maybe too good looking for me, if that makes sense? I don’t think I’m ugly and see myself as attractive, but a lot of the time I don’t think I’m attractive enough for men who look like this. So I tend to skip on past them. Took a bit of a punt on this one though πŸ˜‚

Ugh I don't feel so attractive after the Planes crash.

I hope you don't give up.

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Nosdacariad · 22/07/2026 21:55

empirebiscuits12 · 22/07/2026 19:41

Ask him if he has any advice for mid-40s too πŸ˜‚

And mid 50s 😁

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Nosdacariad · 22/07/2026 21:56

MrFlintstone · 22/07/2026 20:44

@empirebiscuits12 please don't put yourself down, you are attractive for anyone, and never think otherwise.

It's all quiet for me, no likes and no matches, not to worry.

Frustrating. Maybe it means your discernment is on point.

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Nosdacariad · 22/07/2026 21:58

bluelightwonder · 22/07/2026 21:23

@Nosdacariadobsessed with his ex, and started pulling away so my gut instinct was to end it :(

Good instincts xxx

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Nosdacariad · 22/07/2026 21:59

@Mildred007 I'm raising an eyebrow at your ex 😘

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Mildred007 · 22/07/2026 22:07

Nosdacariad · 22/07/2026 21:59

@Mildred007 I'm raising an eyebrow at your ex 😘

Haha, 99% certain it's just a friend type of catch up. But I was still pleased to know I'm on his mind, even if it is just as a friend. I just need to make sure I keep this in my mind too so I don't emotionally invest in something which isn't going to happen (& is probably for the best that it doesn't)

LenaFromTheNineties · 23/07/2026 00:12

His ideas on men dating.

Men? Christ, where do I start? Three things then, same as the women.

First one: learn to read the room. Half the blokes I hear about from women on these sites are sending the same opening message to every profile, regardless of what she's written. "Hey beautiful" to a woman who's just spent three paragraphs talking about her career in biomedical research. She's not going to reply to that. She wants you to show you've actually read what she put in front of you. One specific question about her profile is worth a hundred generic compliments.

Second one: stop trying to negotiate intimacy. You hear about it all the time. A woman says she's not ready for something physical, and the bloke spends the next three messages trying to talk her out of it. "Just one drink." "Just come up for a minute." It's desperate, and it kills any chance you had. If she says no, you say "no problem, let me know if you change your mind" and you mean it. That respect, that willingness to take no at face value, is what makes her reconsider later.

Third one: have a life outside of dating. The most successful blokes I know, myself possibly included, aren't spending all evening refreshing the app. They're at a gallery opening, or a dinner with friends, or working on something that matters to them. The women can tell. When you message from a place of being busy and fulfilled, rather than from a place of loneliness and desperation, the whole tone shifts. You're inviting her into a life that's already interesting, not asking her to fill an empty one.

LenaFromTheNineties · 23/07/2026 00:16

Finally, dating women in their 40s generated more than I expected and not what I expected I suppose.

Forties? I think women in their forties are a different game entirely. Less bullshit, more directness.

They are a different species from the twenty-somethings. They've been married, divorced, widowed, or they've spent fifteen years building a career and realised they missed the window on the traditional path. Whatever brought them there, they've got one thing in common: they know exactly what they don't want.

I don’t really push dating women in this age bracket, but I have had various chats and been on dates with three that led to the bedroom, so this is from limited experience and my perspective. You don't get the princess archetype with this age group. You don't get the long lists of demands or the vague "see where things go" energy. They'll tell you in the first message if they're after companionship, sex, or something more serious. And they'll expect you to do the same. If you try to play games or be coy, they'll unmatch you before you finish typing your second message.

The flip side is they carry more baggage. Ex-husbands, kids, complicated custody arrangements, careers that don't leave much room for spontaneity. I suppose you have to be willing to work around their schedule, not the other way around. Yet the payoff is a woman who knows what she's doing in bed, knows how to hold a conversation, and won't ghost you because she's anxious about what her flatmate thinks.

Sexually a twenty-five-year-old might be figuring out her preferences, trying things because she thinks she should, performing for your approval. A woman in her forties has had twenty years of experience to learn what actually works for her. She knows, and she's not shy about showing you. They're not afraid to ask for what they want in return. Then there’s the confidence. That's the big one. A woman who's comfortable in her own skin, who's not worried about how she looks from every angle, who's not performing for an imaginary audience? That frees her up to actually be present.

My nights with women in their forties put almost every twenty-something I've been with to shame. Not because they're technically better at any one thing. It is because they're not afraid to be themselves. That makes all the difference.

The best ones, the ones worth your time, are I expect the ones who've done the work on themselves. They've maybe been to therapy, they've figured out their patterns, and they're not looking for someone to save them. They're looking for someone to share a life that's already full. If you can offer that without trying to fix them, a man will have more luck with a forty-five-year-old than with ten twenty-five-year-olds combined. Or that is my tentative suggestion.

Nosdacariad · 23/07/2026 08:27

Interesting @LenaFromTheNineties

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empirebiscuits12 · 23/07/2026 08:57

@LenaFromTheNineties thanks for doing some digging and for putting it all on here! Your friend has certainly done a lot of thinking about what he does and doesn’t want, and about women in general! Very interesting!

empirebiscuits12 · 23/07/2026 09:01

Hive mind….how long would you give Mr Karaoke to reply? He got home from holiday last night around 7pm so I’m obviously making allowances for that ☺️ I admit that I keep checking to see if he’s replied yet, which isn’t really like me at this very early stage!

Ilovelurchers · 23/07/2026 09:45

Hi all, just catching up on all the posts..... I'm away at the seaside with my daughter currently, which is lovely - having time away (mostly) from swiping and the apps is definitely good ....

Tho I am still sending the odd message to Mr Surfer. I am surprised he keeps replying, as I would think it's fairly obvious from my messages that I am not taking him seriously......

He has just told me he is currently in a "male dominated environment" - prison? Wouldn't wholly surprise me. Though I imagine the opportunities for surfing are limited.....

Isn't there a famous cult film about some criminal.surfers? Maybe he has been watching that and imagines he is in it.....

Nosdacariad · 23/07/2026 11:48

empirebiscuits12 · 23/07/2026 09:01

Hive mind….how long would you give Mr Karaoke to reply? He got home from holiday last night around 7pm so I’m obviously making allowances for that ☺️ I admit that I keep checking to see if he’s replied yet, which isn’t really like me at this very early stage!

Reply to what exactly? Sorry if I should know xxx

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Nosdacariad · 23/07/2026 11:49

Ilovelurchers · 23/07/2026 09:45

Hi all, just catching up on all the posts..... I'm away at the seaside with my daughter currently, which is lovely - having time away (mostly) from swiping and the apps is definitely good ....

Tho I am still sending the odd message to Mr Surfer. I am surprised he keeps replying, as I would think it's fairly obvious from my messages that I am not taking him seriously......

He has just told me he is currently in a "male dominated environment" - prison? Wouldn't wholly surprise me. Though I imagine the opportunities for surfing are limited.....

Isn't there a famous cult film about some criminal.surfers? Maybe he has been watching that and imagines he is in it.....

Maybe he's in the military?

Or runs surfing stag dos?!

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empirebiscuits12 · 23/07/2026 13:47

Nosdacariad · 23/07/2026 11:48

Reply to what exactly? Sorry if I should know xxx

I should have been clearer πŸ˜‚ Just a reply from Me Karaoke in general. We’d exchanged a couple of messages and it ended with me asking a little more about his job etc. Nothing in depth as we had only been messaging that one night. But I’m keen for him to not slip through the cracks πŸ˜‚ Should I bite the bullet and message him again or just wait? And how long do I wait? x

Ilovelurchers · 23/07/2026 13:53

empirebiscuits12 · 23/07/2026 13:47

I should have been clearer πŸ˜‚ Just a reply from Me Karaoke in general. We’d exchanged a couple of messages and it ended with me asking a little more about his job etc. Nothing in depth as we had only been messaging that one night. But I’m keen for him to not slip through the cracks πŸ˜‚ Should I bite the bullet and message him again or just wait? And how long do I wait? x

I do double message sometimes as I see no real harm in it, and it's possible they have forgotten it's their turn to message if it's early on in the chat.

Not sure it makes much difference if you do or don't, but I like to feel I have done all in my power, if they are of interest to me. If they think slightly less of me for double messaging I don't really worry about that - I don't know them, so why should I care what they think?

I wouldn't object to anyone double messaging me. Obviously if they send a whole string of messages when you haven't replied, that's a bit much.

But he can always unmatch if he really doesn't want to hear from you.....

What is it about him that has stood out to you, out of interest? Xxx

empirebiscuits12 · 23/07/2026 14:02

Thanks @Ilovelurchers I guess I just wasn’t sure on the double messaging etiquette!

He stood out because his bio seems clear on what he’s looking for, he’s in my age range and is easy on the eye! The brief chat we had was interesting too ☺️

LenaFromTheNineties · 23/07/2026 14:06

Ex-Runner used to be part of a group of 5 of us who used to do morning runs in 2025. He was good at matching my pace and not talking when running. Afterwards though we would discuss all sorts of things. Ex-Runner walks the line between wisdom and being full of himself. He is on a lecturer path in Psycho-something in the field of interpersonal relationships in the digital age (I think the often remote workplace is his thing). He is also a serial dater. I have asked him if he has any perspectives on dating in your 50s.

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