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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Support thread for those in Emotionally Abusive relationships....can it be 18?

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foolonthehill · 08/03/2013 22:19

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
a check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
why financial abuse is domestic violenceAre you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
heart to heart a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

what couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
should I stay or should I go bonus materials this is a site containing the material for men who want to change?please don?t give him the link?print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
bill of rights here is what you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

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ponygirlcurtis · 13/03/2013 22:09

Jeepers, i took my eye off to watch the end of One Born , and it's all gorn off!

Charlotte, glad FW's parents were about you too .

No, Leclerc, I was subjected to the 'I've chaaaaaaanged' feeeeeeme tune many a time. Apparently I was the problem because I could see that he'd changed cos I didn't have my microscope with me.

Kitty, really glad your DCs have decided not to go, and you can be clear with yourself that you didn't influence them. Bottle that calm, and leave while he's away!

Breathe - are they different, the spitoon and boak bucket? Kinda thought it was multi-purpose...

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ponygirlcurtis · 13/03/2013 22:10

mink Grin

You are all making me giggle tonight. Needed it. Thanks

BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:10

determined, what'll it be?

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kittybiscuits · 13/03/2013 22:13

lemon - you have phish food Grin

pony oh - he's not going now! The first words he said when they said they decided not to come 'Well there's no point me going then'. Nice. No pressure.

I've never tried a jaeger bomb. Jaeger bomb, anyone?

BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:13

pony yeah, true, there is only one bucket! plastic one under sink They'll just have to share [stern emoticon]

BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:15

Jaeger bomb, kitty? That sounds like a rather smartly dressed weapon of mass destruction Grin

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minkembra · 13/03/2013 22:18

breath Grin jaegar bomb

CharlotteCollinsismovingon · 13/03/2013 22:18

DFil actually said they see now he was "killing you with a thousand cuts."

LemonDrizzled · 13/03/2013 22:18

You are doing a fab job LeClerc and being the consistent one and enforcing the boundaries IS exhausting. Sleep well

BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:19

Bloody hell, charlotte he must be! Which one of us is he

BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:20

Sleep well, leclerc, night night lovey.

ponygirlcurtis · 13/03/2013 22:21

Oooooo Leclerc, I'm glad you said that before me!!!! About both - what do we do about buckets if we're caught short??

But theriously folks, after the day I've had, I need to bow out. Before I'm carried out. Yur all me besht mateshhhhhhhhhh WineWineWine

Nite all.

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BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:26

Nitey nite Smile swing yer cane, love, we're tolerant here, we are!

I'm off too. I'm so tired but so relaxed and happy tonight - maybe because i did the court thing, deconstructed fw's last remaining presence upstairs (the bed, very symbolic) and have sorted job so my life will be a lot easier. Yay! Night all.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon · 13/03/2013 22:26

Yep, me too - off to bed with a smile on me face.

'Night, lovely friends.

BreatheandFlyAway · 13/03/2013 22:27

Oh and I lurrrrve you all Wine

kittybiscuits · 13/03/2013 22:29

nighty night x

minkembra · 13/03/2013 23:11

Night night all.
Still plenty of fwittery going on but some excellent positive moves in there. charlotte breath big steps to freedom. Grin lemon enjoy. night all.

Am going home singing 'we are the champions, we are the champions' laughing at wuuuur the same.

never a good idea to stagger out with a full bladder

Night demented hope you are ok. Maggie catch you by the fireside soon i hope. here's tae us, whae's like us.....

FairyFi · 14/03/2013 00:32

Hoping for better tomorrow Tis hope you can lift your head off pillow

LOL LOL LOL at pub antics.

hoping you all manage to have clear heads in the morning!

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MrsMorton · 14/03/2013 07:15

I have Delilah as an ear worm now... Thanks guys Hmm