men who got to prostitutes

[jake42]

Hello .
ive been reading all the threads on here about guys who visit escorts/ prostitutes/ whores etc , and i know im probably going to be called all sorts of names as its mainly a womans site, but i thought id write and tell my tale.

42 year old male , married for some 15 years, adore my wife and child and my family life . i want to get old with her .
just after our marriage one evening after sex ,whilst cuddling in bed , she says ive been thinking, we dont have to do sex, we love each other , lets live together like a brother and sister ! WTF im thinking, whats bought this on, nothing i could say or do would change her mind, we had sex very infrequently after , mainly to try for a baby. once said baby was born , she obviously was tired most of the time and eventually moved into the spare room blaming tiredness and my snoring (i do snore, but not that bad) . that was around 10 years ago and is still there now. We may of had sex 6 or 7 times since, im never allowed the pleasure of oral sex either way ,sex is always at my request, but always with the feeling that she just wants me to come and finish.
i adore her and cant imagine life without her, but the thought of no sex or hardly any doesnt appeal to me at all.
so after being knocked back one time too many i visited a site where Escort girls advertised and agreed to meet one .
i have been discreetly seeing different ones for around 5 years, always take every precaution and making sure my wife does not catch anything.
im basically between a rock and a hard place, i need to have sex , my wife doesnt, we love each other , i dont want to leave her , she , i assume doesnt want us to split up . but i cant imagine life for another 30 yrs with out sexual contact. i kind of figure that paying for it off a prostitute is better than having an affair, which as i love my wife would be out of the question.
i would be glad if anyone out there could perhaps in someway give me some advice . oh and im not a woman hater , i adore female company more than male .

Do you think other people here don't know about rape RM.

You aren't the expert here.

Rapists aren't sick. They make evil choices and they are criminals.

Running, you refuse to even consider WineGoggles or anyone else on that side of prostitution's view either. You negate her view with your view that she has been raped. Have you noticed that?

There is a concerted attempt on this thread to promote pro-punter propaganda.

I haven't said Winegoggles has been raped. You really really shouldn't put words into other people's mouths.

You have by default, with your view on the fact that men paying for sex are rapist.

Round of applause for that twisting of someone's words RetroMum.

I think she's been raped. Repeatedly. She may have acclimatised to it, like stockholm syndrome. Still true though.

Nyac, yours is a simplistic view. I should not respond back to you really. You're like a kid in the school yard shouting taunts from the side.

I just wrote of one face of a rapist. He was a sick man. I didn't say all rapists are.

Again, you lot should read a post without adding your own flavour to it. You refuse to even acknowledge that the rapist I wrote of is sick. You're dog minded.

Take a breath and think instead of just shouting me down.

And now you're gonna deny that you view men like Jake as a rapist! Unbelievable.

WineGoggles I wonder whether you are still young? in which case it will come to you later that you've harmed yourself emotionally, even if you've learned to disattach mentally from your body. Your body has been violated whether anyone calls it 'rape' or not. Coming back to the hooker/pimp couple on This Morning, funny that the only partner she could find was in the same industry - how limited was her personal choice because of her job! I felt very sorry for her that she couldn't see herself from above so to speak.

'There is a concerted attempt on this thread to promote pro-punter propaganda.'

To negate to concerted attempt on this thread to promote rad-fem propaganda perhaps.

Is this where you all are nowadays? Conspicuous in your absence from FWR. You are missed.

Oh look here's another one.

Where do you all come from?

Retromum, your pro-punter position is transparent.

Men who pay for women for sex are rapists. Who's denying that? Apart from you of course.

I'm not a rad fem.

It's not radical feminism to say that prostitutes are raped and abused. Just the dirty truth.

There's no concerted rad fem position here BTW.

Lots of people are simply disgusted with men who pay for sex nowadays. They don't swallow men's lies about how this is a reasonable way to treat women.

I'm a pathetic attempt at a rad fem. I still think the sex industry is based on rape.

I view men like Jake as rapists, yes. He thinks he is entitled to buy women's bodies for sex. He has no clue about the real history of these women, just pedals the happy hooker myths about them driving BMWs. He has no clue whether the women he buys are trafficked or drug addicted or abused - he doesn't even know if they are there of their own free will. Many aren't.

'Oh look here's another one.

Where do you all come from?'

From Handmaiden Central of course. I brought my book of Patriarchal Conditioning for Dummies with me. Soz to interrupt your radsplaining.

I'm not a Rad fem neither, never posted on fwr. But I erm.....object to the word whore, object to the use of woman and such like as derogatory insults by another woman. The general woman hating theme and judging theme coming from certain posters.

Ohh also I do not believe women or men's bodies should be bought and paid for as commodities. Yes that men and women, we are all humans not commodities to be treated as lesser beings to get your end away.

It's almost like their is a pn invasions again, I can't believe some of the shit that's been posted on here actually.

Oh I'm sure you're from somewhere else SF.

Anyhow, look - lots of people who aren't radical feminists who are still disgusted by men who think it's OK to pay to use women for sex. It's a mainstream view.

My mother's womb? Outer space?

Is it a mainstream view though? How do you know? In the UK there are 40 odd million adults, have you asked them all?

Look, I'm not keen on your views, as you know, yet you are entitled to hold them of course. What I object to is your insistence on your views being the right ones, and your insistence on hammering people into submission with them.

It's not good manners.

Gawd people, why are you ENGAGING?

It's just providing a platform for yet more ignorance, misogyny and rape myth-peddling.

Seriously, we should talk about something else. What's everyone reading at the moment? I've just finished The Knife of Never Letting Go. It was awesome, made me cry at one point.

Oh well as long as we are good mannered little handmaidens whilst women and children are systematically raped, that's what's important.

Totally missing the point as per...

Tedious.

I'm not a radical feminist. Although I don't think it's a bad thing to be. Such a tired insult.

As per? Have you ever seen me on FWR? Doubt it.