Keep it to yourself. The Archers Spoilers Thread 4

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Spoiler thread for The Archers. Please keep all discussion in this thread and do not share spoilers on the main Archers Thread.

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Spoiling The Archers one week at a time. Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/2958254-spoiling-the-archers-one-week-at-a-time-thread-3

My guess on Kirsty/Helen is that Philip says "OK, if you don;t want a massive do let's have a quiet register office ceremony and not invite anyone" and helen forbids it on the grounds that this is what she and Rob did and look what a disaster that was.

I suppose Michael may be something to do with the funeral? Paul Stonehouse, who plays him, had a bit part as Matthew Watkins in February 2013. (No, I didn't remember him either, but he seems to have been the commercial relations manager at Elizabeth's bank when she was trying to get a loan to convert the Old Dairy into an accommodation-block.)

I do like a Keri week. It means the there is a fighting chance that the characters will be acting...in character!

I see Phoebe is not on the cast list again this week - I wonder whether rewilding has been kicked into the long grass for a month or two (or until somebody works out what subsidies/grants they can claim after 31 January)?

Seeing Ian Craig's name reminds me that the pair only have another couple of months left in which to apply for a parental order.

Thanks AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Thank you!

Thanks! I have a hunch that Jazzer is going to tell Jim he also experienced sexual abuse as a child. That would explain his very extreme reaction to Jim's experiences.

Oh I hope not gaspode. I wondered if someone else at the funeral might say they’d been abused by Jayston as well.

I've been sent this too:

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Jan 19-24
Jim, Alistair and Jazzer go on the road for a trip that will take Jim to some dark places, but could bring him peace of mind. Those three crazy guys head across the foaming torrents of the mighty Am, leaving behind a village in torment.
Will The Bull survive the changes Angus Shrimpton has proposed - and will it even still be called The Bull?
Over in another of Ambridge’s many hospitality units, Ian sets his spy to work to find out just what Hugh is getting up to in the Grey Gables kitchen.
Kirsty - having cooked up all kinds of trouble after her attempt to get Gavin to scale down his wedding plans -struggles, while elsewhere, things boil over, leading to an emotional confession.

More one liners up:

19/01: Ian is determined to uncover the truth and Eddie is not happy with recent developments
20/01: Philip makes a controversial suggestion and Natasha's efforts take their toll.
21/01: Helen offers some tough love and Jolene starts to have second thoughts.
22/01: It's a big day for Jim and there's an awkward encounter for Lee.
23/01: Jim is shocked by an emotional confession and Rex finds himself accused
24/01: Kirsty has a change of heart and Burns Night proves a disappointment for some.
26/01: Jim is surprised by an unexpected visitor and Philip puts his foot in it.
27/01: There's chaos at Brookfield and Alistair digs for information.
28/01: Josh hits rock bottom and Johnny makes a lifestyle change.
29/01: Kate's idea looks set to cause ructions and Gavin continues to make his presence felt.
30/01: Neil faces a dilemma and Jim defies expectations.
31/01: Kirsty faces a shock and Josh holds his hands up.
02/02: Kirsty attempts to keep the peace and Pip reaches the end of her tether
03/02: Kate makes her presence felt and Neil questions his future
04/02: Lynda goes into battle and Neil reaches a decision
05/02: Lee has a confession to make and Freddie makes a fool of himself
06/02: There’s more bad news at Brookfield and Jill attempts to rally the family
07/02: There’s a shock for Alice and Kirsty makes a breakthrough

Oh dear, sounds like lots of huffing and puffing from David and smugness from Pip if Josh is getting into trouble.

Thanks, all!

Therapist - Equanimitas' spoilers seem to be leading the way you are thinking. Some stranger is going to get in touch with Jim? I hope not. I could do without this storyline.

Shock for Alice - pregnancy, redundancy, discovery that Chris is having an affair, results of liver function tests?

Lee's confession taken in combination with the awkward encounter - baffled. Did he have a ONS with Kate? Can't think of anything else to explain this.

Freddie making a fool of himself - situation normal

Lynda goes into battle - petition, which oddly she seems to be doing the old-fashioned way asking people to sign printed sheets with a biro, rather than online

I hope Neil stays put and sacks Hannah for reasons that wouldn't make it possible for her to go an Employment Tribunal, or he strongly encourages her to leave, and she does. I wonder if Johnnie's lifestyle choice is not to share with Hannah any longer. If he leaves, I won't be responsible for my actions. Johnnie is one of the very few good things about TA at the moment.

Pip reaching the end of her tether - she goes to Brazil after all? Oh please, oh please ...

The thing about these "shocks" is they are invariable just a minor surprise.

Granted there might be a bit of duplication of spoilers in this thread, but there are 115 "shocks" or "shocking" incidents referred to above in about 13 months.

I am not so sure that Alice will be pregnant-yet-what with Rosie, then Xander, we've had plenty of Archers' babies for a while. Wouldn't it be good if the "shock" for Alice was discovering Phoebe sat in the "Bat" looking for jobs on Linkedin/Indeed (do they still have computers in the Bull, or did I imagine that)?

By Ambridge standards, Alice being no longer a teenager is unlikely to have a baby for about 10 years, unless she has a one night stand.
In soaps, a ONS usually results in a baby, and Christmas is peak time for giving birth.

The shocks are usually mild surprises, unless they are flagged up well in advance.

I have kept all the BBC one-liners since May 2013. mostly because I haven't bothered to throw them out when they stopped being spoilers. (Must clear out the computer a bit!)

If I do a search-and-replace in that file since 1st January 2019 the letters "shock" get replaced 29 times. That covers "shocks", "shocking" and any other word with "shock" in it.

Since May 2013 there have been 75 uses of "shock".

I don;t think any of them was anything which actually did shock me. When something really is shocking, they tend not to tell you in advance -- things like rape, The one-liner for Thursday 27th August, 2015, is "Rob is very persuasive, and Lower Loxley is transformed." and for Wednesday 16th March, 2016, when Helen went to bed early to escape him and Rob forced sex on his pregnant wife the one-liner is "Helen is vulnerable and out of the loop. Shula and Dr Locke talk families..."

It probably belongs on here, rather than the main thread, but I have just seen a tweet from Keri Davies to the effect that we won't be hearing from Lexi for the foreseeable future. #Lexit!

Love the #Lexit @Madcats. Lexi Leggs it.

BBC One-Liners 26-31 Jan 2020
26 Jan Jim is surprised by an unexpected visitor and Philip puts his foot in it.
27 Jan There’s chaos at Brookfield and Alistair digs for information.
28 Jan Josh hits rock bottom and Johnny makes a lifestyle change.
29 Jan Kate’s idea looks set to cause ructions and Gavin continues to make his presence felt.
30 Jan Neil faces a dilemma and Jim defies expectations.
31 Jan Kirsty faces a shock and Josh holds his hands up.

Credits
Sun 26/1/2020, Mon 27/1/2020, Tue 28/1/2020, Wed 29/1/2020, Thu 30/1/2020, Fri 31/1/2020
Writer: Simon Frith
Director: Gwenda Hughes
Editor: Jeremy Howe
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Helen Archer: Louiza Patikas
Josh Archer: Angus Imrie
Ruth Archer: Felicity Finch
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Lee Bryce: Ryan Early
Neil Carter: Brian Hewlett
Susan Carter: Charlotte Martin
Vince Casey: Tony Turner
Ian Craig: Stephen Kennedy
Justin Elliott: Simon Williams
Fiona: Adjoa Andoh
Martyn Gibson: Jon Glover
Emma Grundy: Emerald O’Hanrahan
Alistair Lloyd: Michael Lumsden
Jim Lloyd: John Rowe
Adam Macy: Andrew Wincott
Kate Madikane: Perdita Avery
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Gavin Moss: Gareth Pierce
Philip Moss: Andy Hockley
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
DC Tanners: Jane Slavin

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 26-31 Jan
Jim is on the receiving end of a surprise when Fiona turns up. She’s adamant that she just wants to make sure he’s OK. But when Alistair digs for information about why Fiona has cut her holiday short, he discovers that she’s been keeping a secret of her own.
Adam and Ian are worried Kate is taking her aunt duties too seriously. By the week’s end, she’s offered to organise a naming ceremony for Xander, but does chaos lie ahead?
The Brookfield Archers, meanwhile, are going out to impress Vince as he checks out the barn venue for his daughter Steph. But just when it looks as though Ruth and David might win him round, disaster strikes ...

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Jan 26-31
The Police make yet another swoop on the village. Borsetshire Police now have an entire ops room - full of maps, mug shots and furrow-browed Officers - entirely given over to the nest of thieves and varmints that is Ambridge. This time, they’ll be screeching to a halt outside Brookfield, but which particular Archer will they be after?
Kirsty continues to walk round in a rosy glow, but the dark force currently controlling Ambridge won’t let that last.
Kate carries on herding unwilling villagers to her dodgy enterprise, Spiritual Home - with young Xander as her latest victim - while Johnny cracks on along his own path to self improvement.
Meanwhile Fiona turns up (and turns out to have a secret), Neil gets an offer, and takings at The Bull take a dip.

Thanks, Asking! Some promising stuff there. (Hope springs eternal ...)

Thanks Asking. Hoping Neil will leave the pig factory and become a happy pig farmer again, in partnership with Rex.

And the cannibal pigs will turn on Hannah.

Good to see it looks as if any change for Neil will be positive - he doesn’t deserve any misfortune.

Thank you for the spoilers!

Looking further ahead:

31/01: Kirsty faces a shock and Josh holds his hands up.
02/02: Kirsty attempts to keep the peace and Pip reaches the end of her tether
03/02: Kate makes her presence felt and Neil questions his future
04/02: Lynda goes into battle and Neil reaches a decision
05/02: Lee has a confession to make and Freddie makes a fool of himself
06/02: There’s more bad news at Brookfield and Jill attempts to rally the family
07/02: There’s a shock for Alice and Kirsty makes a breakthrough
09/02: Alice reels from the latest gossip and Robert finds his Valentine plans thwarted
10/02: Johnny loses his cool and Alistair tries his luck
11/02: Freddie has concerns and Emma’s actions cause raised eyebrows
12/02: Chris puts his foot in it and it’s a difficult day for Jill
13/02: Jakob’s behaviour causes concern and David has a change of heart
14/02: Freddie makes a worrying discovery and Alistair offers some advice

Not looking forward to Pip's reappearance on Sunday

Thanks Equanimitas

So, Kirsty's shock - twin wedding in Crete planned
Neil turns down Justin (and goes into the pig business with Rex)
Alistair tries his luck with Fiona - with hilarious consequences

Coming week only:

BBC one-liners 2nd - 7th February 2020
02 Feb Kirsty attempts to keep the peace and Pip reaches the end of her tether.
03 Feb Kate makes her presence felt and Neil questions his future.
04 Feb Lynda goes into battle and Neil reaches a decision.
05 Feb Lee has a confession to make and Freddie makes a fool of himself.
06 Feb There’s more bad news at Brookfield and Jill attempts to rally the family.
07 Feb There’s a shock for Alice and Kirsty makes a breakthrough.

Credits
Sun 2/2/2020, Mon 3/2/2020, Tue 4/2/2020, Wed 5/2/2020, Thu 6/2/2020, Fri 7/2/2020
Writer: Liz John
Director: Jeremy Howe
Editor: Jeremy Howe
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Helen Archer: Louiza Patikas
Jill Archer: Patricia Greene
Jolene Archer: Buffy Davis
Josh Archer: Angus Imrie
Kenton Archer: Richard Attlee
Pip Archer: Daisy Badger
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Lee Bryce: Ryan Early
Alice Carter: Hollie Chapman
Neil Carter: Brian Hewlett
Susan Carter: Charlotte Martin
Rex Fairbrother: Nick Barber
Bert Fry: Eric Allan
Jakob Hakansson: Paul Venables
Kate Madikane: Perdita Avery
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Philip Moss: Andy Hockley
Freddie Pargetter: Toby Laurence
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
Hannah Riley: Helen Longworth
Lynda Snell: Carole Boyd
Peggy Woolley: June Spencer

Radio Times Ambridge Diary Feb 2-7
Josh is still struggling to find his place on the farm and ends up incurring the wrath of Pip when he puts his foot in it once again. And the problems continue to mount at Brookfield as Vince squeezes the family for discounts on his daughter’s wedding.
Things are looking up for staff at the pub when they attract business from corporate go-getters. This is exactly the kind of clientele they’re trying to encourage, but what Kenton and Jolene haven’t foreseen is Lynda’s plan to sabotage the event.
And with Valentine’s Day approaching, Helen is keen to make it a special occasion for her and Lee. But then comes an unexpected confession …

And once again, for the coming week:

BBC one-liners 9th - 14th February 2020
09 Feb Alice reels from the latest gossip and Robert finds his Valentine plans thwarted.
10 Feb Johnny loses his cool and Alistair tries his luck.
11 Feb Freddie has concerns and Emma’s actions cause raised eyebrows.
12 Feb Chris puts his foot in it and it’s a difficult day for Jill.
13 Feb Jakob’s behaviour causes concern and David has a change of heart.
14 Feb Freddie makes a worrying discovery and Alistair offers some advice.

Credits
Sun 9/2/2020, Mon 10/2/2020, Tue 11/2/2020, Wed 12/2/2020, Thu 13/2/2020, Fri 14/2/2020
Writer: Adrian Flynn
Director: Dave Payne
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Ben Archer: Ben Norris
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Jill Archer: Patricia Greene
Jolene Archer: Buffy Davis
Kenton Archer: Richard Attlee
Ruth Archer: Felicity Finch
Alice Carter: Hollie Chapman
Chris Carter: Wilf Scolding
Emma Grundy: Emerald O’Hanrahan
Jakob Hakansson: Paul Venables
Shula Hebden Lloyd: Judy Bennett
Tracy Horrobin: Susie Riddell
Alistair Lloyd: Michael Lumsden
Elizabeth Pargetter: Alison Dowling
Freddie Pargetter: Toby Laurence
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
Lynda Snell: Carole Boyd
Robert Snell: Graham Blockey

Radio Times Ambridge Diary Feb 9-14
Freddie and Ben try to persuade Johnny to join them on their wild night out. But after getting a shock response, Freddie worries about what’s troubling his best mate - and then makes a concerning discovery.
There’s still no truce in the war between the B at Ambridge and the protesters. But it soon becomes clear that one Ambridge resident is playing both sides for personal gain - how long will they be able to get away with it?
And tensions rise in the equine community when several horses are found to be overweight. One client in particular incurs Jakob’s wrath - perhaps the vet needs to rein it in a bit, even when dealing with neighsayers.

Ben's been let out of the cereal cupboard! Thanks, Asking.

I hope Alistair isn't about to have a gambling relapse. That could explain the trying his luck line and Freddie making a worrying discovery, but to be fair almost anything can be a worrying discovery in Ambridge. 'We're out of Coco Pops, Mum!' or 'That 747's very low over Lakey Hill ...'

Won’t Freddie’s discovery be Johnny’s online order for steroids?

Thanks, Asking!

Thanks Asking.