Keep it to yourself. The Archers Spoilers Thread 4

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Spoiler thread for The Archers. Please keep all discussion in this thread and do not share spoilers on the main Archers Thread.

Previous thread.
Spoiling The Archers one week at a time. Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/2958254-spoiling-the-archers-one-week-at-a-time-thread-3

Oh dear. I just Googled "Roman Trench" and had a 'hit' on Urban Dictionary.

I had high hopes for the "Lily finds a photo" storyline - unless it was CMR with Johnnie's girlfriend, that plot line will be dull and painful to endure.

Thanks Asking.

I guess Leonard's "foe" is David, especially if Jill's talking about marrying him. David's being really jealous and possessive about his mum. He doesn't care that Leonard is making her very happy, he just wants her to exclusively spend time on his family, doing the housework and cooking.
If they do get married, I'd like her to move into Leonard's house, so she's not at their beck and call. She's not going to be around forever, so they may as well get used to running the house, like any other farming family.

Funnily enough, there is a piece in a local(ish) newspaper about a proposal to rewild a golf course:
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/closed-portishead-golf-course-allowed-3534492?fbclid=IwAR1FgsQZdOGGrBy1af1N4_IB0gpAWDeZoHmBImJEwSjCJjOvINSgNNHFFsQ

Does Borchester Land still own the golf course?

Will anybody dare to mention to Phoebe that she ought to get a job?

Will anybody dare to mention to Phoebe that she ought to get a job?

Yes, what is (a) she living on and (b) what does she do all day?

One-line BBC spoilers
24 Nov Johnny is left devastated and Leonard has the rug pulled from under him.
25 Nov Helen receives a blast from the past and Pip is touched by an unexpected gesture.
26 Nov It’s crunch time for Phoebe and Justin has yet more tricks up his sleeve.
27 Nov Elizabeth puts her foot down and Lynda is keen to maintain tradition.
28 Nov Harrison is shocked by some harsh criticism and Russ gets his wires crossed.
29 Nov Justin’s scheme takes shape and Lynda finds herself in trouble.

Credits
Sun 24/11/2019, Mon 25/11/2019, Tue 26/11/2019, Wed 27/11/2019, Thu 28/11/2019, Fri 29/11/2019
Writer: Nick Warburton
Director: Jeremy Howe
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Brian Aldridge: Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge: Lucy Morris
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Helen Archer: Louiza Patikas
Jill Archer Patricia Greene
Pip Archer Daisy Badger
Ruth Archer: Felicity Finch
Bella: Elinor Coleman
Leonard Berry: Paul Copley
Harrison Burns: James Cartwright
Justin Elliott: Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother: Nick Barber
Martyn Gibson: Jon Glover
Clarrie Grundy: Heather Bell
Ed Grundy: Barry Farrimond
Eddie Grundy: Trevor Harrison
Will Grundy: Philip Molloy
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Tracy Horrobin: Susie Riddell
Russ Jones: Andonis James Anthony
Elizabeth Pargetter: Alison Dowling
Freddie Pargetter: Toby Laurence
Lily Pargetter: Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
Lynda Snell: Carole Boyd
Oliver Sterling: Michael Cochrane

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 24th-29nd November
The Ambridge pre-Christmas traditions that we all know and love are in full flow this week. First, there’s Stir-Up Sunday, and Leonard has prepared something special for the occasion. Pip thinks it’s a perfect idea, but will Jill like it?
Elsewhere, Elizabeth’s working hard to make her Ghost Stories night a success, but rehearsals get off to a bumpy start when Jim arrives late to meet his new director.
There are tensions at Grey Gables too, when Dimitrios’s leaving do turns into a rowdy night and Lynda finds herself in hot water.
Plus Lily has a lot on her mind in the aftermath of her fight with Johnny. Will she be able to put things right?

Thanks Asking. Engagement ring in the christmas pudding?

Thanks Asking.

Yeah, I think you might be right MUM.

Looks like Jonny finds out that Bella is cheating on him.

So, the mystery of who Roman Trench is, has been solved in tonight's episode.

Just when I'd given up on Roman, he turns up.
I hope that Bella's beau is CMR.

And
Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Nov 24-29
Stir-up Sunday looms large in Jill’s calendar. The prayer book urges the faithful to get stirred up for this last Sunday before advent, while Jill always falls to making industrial quantities of Christmas pudding. This year, however, Leonard throws something new into the mix.
A chance encounter gets Helen stirred up, reviving memories and threatening emotional turmoil over the coming weeks, while Lily and Johnny, having got a bit overwrought, try to smooth things over.
Tracy gets everyone geed up at Grey Gables, organising a leaving bash for Dimitrios - though most are racking our brains trying to remember who he is.
Over at Lower Loxley, Elizabeth continues with her ghostly plans - but things get off to a bumpy start.

Oops, sorry; I missed seeing this page before I replied.

I was in the ordinary Archers thread when I replied to a post there, really I was. I've no idea how my posts ended up here. Sorry, sorry.

Even more mystery; my posts seem to have moved again. Does Mumsnet often jump about?

It's the mysterious influence of my 🔮, Asking

Thanks for spoilers!

I see the Editor has been doubling up as Director this week.

I’m saying nothing ...

As SW as well? That would explain a lot. [cross]

I wonder what Harrison's going to be criticised for this evening.

No, not writing, just editing and directing.

Thanks, Spar, I wasn't being entirely serious there. (Hope your headache has cleared now.) I wonder if the SWs, like the actors, have to take the view that no matter how dreadful the storylines agreed might be, they have to earn a living so they just close their minds to it and get on with the job. The SWs, unlike the actors, attend the periodic planning meetings, so in theory can influence the direction of the storylines, but there's been so much churn recently that they are probably currently being assigned storylines they had no input into. In fact a conspiracy theorist might almost speculate that outgoing SWs and Editors have pushed things in a direction that makes it impossible for their replacements to do a good job. Good job I'm not a conspiracy theorist ...

Indeed ...

(Better thanks!)

Hey, don't laugh too much. Looking at the BBC Genome, I found this:

BBC Radio 4 FM, Wed 30th August 1972 18.45
Written By: Malcolm Lynch
Editor: Malcolm Lynch
and
BBC Radio 4 FM, Thu 21st September 1972 18.45
Written By: Malcolm Lynch
Editor: Malcolm Lynch
and
BBC Radio 4 FM, Wed 11th October 1972 18.45
Written By: Malcolm Lynch
Editor: Malcolm Lynch
and
BBC Radio 4 FM, Fri 3rd November 1972 18.45
Written By: Malcolm Lynch
Editor: Malcolm Lynch
and
BBC Radio 4 FM, Tue 5th December 1972 18.45
Written By: Malcolm Lynch
Written By: Brian Hayles
Editor: Malcolm Lynch

Looks like he did it fairly often: there are more, but I can't be bothered finding them all.

Anyhow, that's not what I came here to do.

One-line BBC spoilers
01 Dec Josh finds himself in trouble and Phoebe pushes forwards.
02 Dec Helen is in a quandary and the Bridge Farm Archers rally round.
03 Dec Brian takes a risk and Will receives an unexpected invitation.
04 Dec Pip expresses her reservations and Lynda is in demand.
05 Dec Clarrie laments on the past and Josh’s plans gather pace.
06 Dec There’s a shock for Helen while Pat has gifts on her mind.

Credits
Sun 1/12/2019, Mon 2/12/2019, Tue 3/12/2019, Wed 4/12/2019, Thu 5/12/2019, Fri 6/12/2019
Writer: Gurpreet Kaur Bhatti
Director: Kim Greengrass
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Brian Aldridge: Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge: Lucy Morris
Andrew: Tim Dutton
Helen Archer: Louiza Patikas
Josh Archer: Angus Imrie
Pat Archer: Patricia Gallimore
Pip Archer: Daisy Badger
Ruth Archer: Felicity Finch
Tom Archer: William Troughton
Rex Fairbrother: Nick Barber
Toby Fairbrother: Rhys Bevan
Clarrie Grundy: Heather Bell
Eddie Grundy: Trevor Harrison
Mia Grundy: Molly Pipe
Will Grundy: Philip Molloy
Jim Lloyd: John Rowe
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Elizabeth Pargetter: Alison Dowling
Freddie Pargetter: Toby Laurence
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
Lynda Snell: Carole Boyd
Robert Snell: Graham Blockey

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 1st-6th December
Lynda has been insisting that last year’s Christmas production was her swan song. But I’ve been fully expecting a scene where she finds it impossible to resist involving herself. Now that moment has come as Elizabeth is under pressure from her star turn and asks Lynda for support …
After last week’s blast from the past, Helen is worrying about repeating old mistakes, but Kirsty encourages her to take the bull by the horns.
Mia is insistent that Will attend a fun day event for bereaved children, but fears the worst when Andrew turns up. Plus Josh faces the wrath of a relative at Brookfield, and Ruth feels disappointed with her son.

Thanks Asking.

Well Josh facing the wrath of a relative, is obviously going to be about him kissing Bella.

I mentioned on the other thread about Lee turning up, and wondered if Kirsty was going to persuade Helen to contact him and try again, so it looks like that's what's going to happen there. Otherwise, why bring Lee back for just a couple of minutes? I do hope she doesn't mess him around this time.

Why does Kirsty pimp Helen? She was the one who gave Helen's phone number to Leon after Helen had said she didn't want him to have it, and now she's hell-bent on getting Lee and Helen together again. What is wrong with her for godssake?

She's might be one of those people who thinks single people need a partner, and Helen's been single for long enough in her eyes.

But Helen does moan about how she'll never be able to have a relationship again, so it does seem that Helen would like to have one, but just thinks she's too damaged after Rob. So maybe Kirsty's just giving her a shove. She could be fed up of Helen's "woe is me, I'll forever be lonely and single" moaning.

So Josh is once again in trouble whilst David and Rooth no doubt wax lyrical about the golden child's utter brilliance because the rewilding scheme is going ahead. Same old, same old.

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Dec 1-6
That minx Tracy, by the way she’s carrying on, may have got the wrong end of the stick about this ‘rewilding’ talk. Her behaviour draws many a disapproving glance, though some of us are always cheered by the sight of a Horrobin in full cry.
While Tracy sets tongues wagging, Helen lets her thoughts drift from ‘cheesy’ matters, and ponders on last week’s blast from the past. Could romance, after all she’s been through, come her way for Christmas? How cheesy would that be?
Christmas in Lower Loxley presents its own problems as Jim, once a reluctant star, turns into a bit of a diva, forcing Elizabeth to turn to Lynda for help.

There’s an article (Monday) on this week’s SW, Gurpreet Kaur Bhatti, in the Guardian. Have posted a link on the main thread.