Keep it to yourself. The Archers Spoilers Thread 4

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Spoiling The Archers one week at a time. Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/2958254-spoiling-the-archers-one-week-at-a-time-thread-3

ugh!

I was out yesterday but this arrived in my absence:

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Nov 10-15
While Joe lies quietly in the Ambridge soil, old troubles between Will, Jake and Mia surface. Under advice from Jim - gained through bitter experience - Will attempts a reconciliation with Mia, but it may be too hard for her to forgive and forget.
Other past troubles emerge when Russ opens up to the widow Pargetter about the break-up of his marriage; then, Lily makes a shocking discovery while browsing through photos. Brace yourselves.
Watch out, by the way, for Vince Casey and his mind games; at the moment, he’s working away, getting under Justin’s skin, but there’s no telling who’s next on his list.
Meanwhile, Tony and Joy chum up, Peggy celebrates, David feels unwelcome, and Elizabeth comes up with a wheeze for Lower Loxley.
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I'm not sure it adds anything much, but there it is for what it's worth.

Lara in school uniform?

Thanks, Asking!

Maybe there will be a This Is Your Life album of Russ's where all his exes have been pupils or students, all with stately home or country house backgrounds and all with a four letter name starting with L.

There's a thought! I hadn't noticed the four-letter-L coincidence.

There was Lynn, then Lola, then Lana, Lulu, Leah, Lucy, Lisa, Lila, Luna, Lena,...

All sixth formers at Borchester Green, until the sixth form college split off, when he met Lara.

The next one will be Lyra

Do you think "Lily's dilemma" is the same as "Lily's shocking discovery"? So it must start tonight.

What with the new John Lewis Advert (that is kinda dragon-Shrek, but lovely) and the prospect of a Lily/Russ showdown all on the same day...

Thursday again.

One-line BBC spoilers
17 Nov Phoebe hatches a plan and Lily's attempt to do the right thing backfires.
18 Nov It's an emotional day for Eddie and Joy makes a friend.
19 Nov There’s a bump in the road for Elizabeth, and David has concerns.
20 Nov Lily is left feeling guilty and Justin attempts to widen his net.
21 Nov Things are looking up for Tracy, and Eddie has a change of heart.
22 Nov Justin’s plans gather pace and Jill sets the record straight.

Credits
Sun 17/11/2019, Mon 18/11/2019, Tue 19/11/2019, Wed 20/11/2019, Thu 21/11/2019, Fri 22/11/2019
Writer: Tim Stimpson
Director: Rosemary Watts
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Brian Aldridge: Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge: Lucy Morris
David Archer: Timothy Bentinck
Jill Archer: Patricia Greene
Pat Archer: Patricia Gallimore
Pip Archer: Daisy Badger
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Leonard Berry: Paul Copley
Harrison Burns: James Cartwright
Neil Carter: Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott: Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother: Nick Barber
Alf Grundy: David Hargreaves
Clarrie Grundy: Heather Bell
Ed Grundy: Barry Farrimond
Eddie Grundy: Trevor Harrison
Emma Grundy: Emerald O’Hanrahan
Will Grundy: Philip Molloy
Tracy Horrobin: Susie Riddell
Joy Horville: Jackie Lye
Russ Jones: Andonis James Anthony
Elizabeth Pargetter: Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter: Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
Roman Trench: Ewan Bailey

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 17th-22nd November
Siblings Eddie and Alf have finally put their differences aside and are bonding for the first time in years. But will Eddie get the answer he wants from his brother when he makes a surprise request?
It’s full steam ahead for Elizabeth as she makes plans for the Christmas show at Lower Loxley, but a problem soon surfaces when her star attraction doesn’t play ball in the way she’d been hoping.
And Lily is wrestling with her conscience, unsure what to do after the unsettling discovery she made last week. After being left shocked by an unexpected response, she voices her concerns to Russ: will he be able to help her through this crisis?

She finds a photo of Lizzie with the Fairfather...

Bring me the voice of Anthony Head ... [swoon]

I wonder who Roman Trench is.

Isn't it a feature on Flakey Hill?

Isn't Roman Trench the cheese buyer, poised in the wings..

Wasn't the cheese chap Rufus Dunkley?

Perhaps he is the journalist, then?

I don't remember the name of the cheese chap, but I suppose it could be the reporter.

The cheese chap is Rufus Dunkley, and (this will split your sides) a Roman Trench was a fortification for (oh, ho ho ho) archers to be safe behind. What sort of character it will be, search me, but the name was obviously irresisted.

Thanks, Asking! I've just about got over my helpless laughter at that name now.

Looking back to the RT for this week, I see now why we all got it into our heads that Lily would be shocked by an old photo - that's what the RT says for this week. I don't count photos taken last week as old, but the journalists there clearly do.

Could Roman Trench be the mystery Bella-groper?

Roman will be the journo sent to interview Peggy or the star attraction at LoLo.
He will be devilishly handsome and will get a permanent job resulting in a will-they-won't-they thing with Lizzie.

Is Roman Trench married to Mariana?

Something fishy is going on.....

Who is Mariana?

To be found in the Pacific rather than Ambridge, Mike.

My source has come through with this:

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update Nov 17-22
The Grundys have a scheme to resurrect an old tradition, so until a clear picture of what that is emerges, you’d better stay well away from the village.
Phoebe pushes on with her own resurrection scheme, as she plots to get more land for ‘rewilding’, and turns to that former wild thing Lilian for help.
It seems some joy might come to Joy this week as, after much knocking on villagers’ unwelcoming doors, she may finally have found a friend, but Leonard finds foes amid the Archer clan.
Meanwhile, in the ancient corridors and halls of Lower Loxley, Christmas plans are hatched, and Lily struggles with the recently unearthed secret.

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It occurs to me that Lower Loxley Hall is about the same age as Grange Farm and Brookfield and Home Farm, isn't it? Bridge Farm and Willow Farm are both Victorian, like Ambridge Hall, but aren't the others "seventeenth century", while LLH has 1702 over its door?

Mariana Trench, d'oh.