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Would private schools expect us to remortgage before offering a bursary?

275 replies

Tootandcomeinagain · 02/06/2026 09:48

Hi - seen a lot here about bursaries and wondered if anyone has remortgaged for school fees - we live in a 700K home (all paid off) in London. Salaries 90K gross. Potential school fees are 12K a term so 72K a year for 2. Would we qualify for a part bursary or would we be expected to remortgage? Do they look at the home first? Id be interested in any bursar views as there have been a few posting?

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MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:02

I do agree that even average state primaries in London are mostly excellent. The problem comes when your child is an outlier and miserable because nobody is on their level and they have no real academic peers. And the curriculum offerings in terms of choice, breadth and depth at the more selective independents are absolutely not matched by any comprehensive that I am aware of.

Completely agree that it's not worth paying for an average private school especially at primary level - but if you are looking at those that are the very best, it might be.

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:04

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 22:42

I want to make sure no one can get £1 out of my wallet

This in particular is genuinely disgusting as an attitude. I don't think your kids will fit in well to any UK school if this is how you've brought them up.

Thanks for your blessing to other online users children . When you fail to force them to share their pie to you .

it’s ok . There are always Yale and Harvard .
Maybe that’s why lots people paying £ to study IB for an escape .
Then exchange £ to pay dollars for usa uni .
opps the £ is not strong now .

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:13

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 22:39

If the life is above your means, don't apply. Many parents at top schools are generous enough to realise that having very bright bursary students benefits their own kids as well. You clearly don't understand how any of this works, having ruled out two schools where the bursary funds are not coming from fees.

are you begging for other people’s generosity ? Not even use please and thank you . Instead attacking their children online ? with no gratitude ?

so entitled . Where do you get this entitlement from ?
French Revolution ?

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:18

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 22:40

You're a twit. Bring up your own kids to behave well. Don't rely on any school to do it for you.

Not sure the mum whose vocabulary full of f and s is natural or neutral . Home or school.

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:20

Honestly, you just sound a little bit unhinged.

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:22

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:20

Honestly, you just sound a little bit unhinged.

And you are working hard at middle night with dictionary .

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:23

How the mum with f and s going to pass school interview ?
This is not something money can buy .

SakuraTea · 23/07/2026 23:27

Tootandcomeinagain · 15/06/2026 05:45

@Rewaw no family to contribute. We have decided to be upfront and see what happens. Im also looking at a new role which should give me more funds to fill the gap.

To those who query if its worth it, it has been for us. Small class sizes, children thriving. The parents are engaged, no issues with disruptive kids. We aren't impacted but lots of sen provision which is why many parents have their children here.

If they are that bright though they would surely be in top sets in a state school? My kids are all in top sets and don't have to deal with any disruptions etc, all their friends are lovely.

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:28

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:22

And you are working hard at middle night with dictionary .

I'm off to bed now, but I can assure you that no dictionary has been required at any point in this slightly mental conversation. I would strongly advise you to think a little bit harder about your attitudes and world view because I think you might be damaging your children.

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:29

SakuraTea · 23/07/2026 23:27

If they are that bright though they would surely be in top sets in a state school? My kids are all in top sets and don't have to deal with any disruptions etc, all their friends are lovely.

You will meet them in toilet , during break . In canteen and here online also for example the mums full of f and s .

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:30

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:28

I'm off to bed now, but I can assure you that no dictionary has been required at any point in this slightly mental conversation. I would strongly advise you to think a little bit harder about your attitudes and world view because I think you might be damaging your children.

And you are jeopardising your own children's school interviews …
opps they secretly interview mums too .

and might call social worker if mums full of f and s all day in front of kids .

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:31

No school interviews mothers! You clearly don't understand how any of this works. My kid is out the other side of a very good school and off to Oxbridge. Nobody has interviewed me at any point!

AntediluvianViews · 23/07/2026 23:32

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:23

How the mum with f and s going to pass school interview ?
This is not something money can buy .

Are you referring to swearing? Profanity?

That is universal in UK and absolutely not exclusive to the state sector.

Parents are investigating value for money.

There are wonderful families to be found in both state and private schools.

The focus/discussion is value for money. True quality of life. Return of investment.

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 23:34

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:31

No school interviews mothers! You clearly don't understand how any of this works. My kid is out the other side of a very good school and off to Oxbridge. Nobody has interviewed me at any point!

happy for you .

so why you are here at middle night ?
should not you be busy in Oxfordshire now doing shopping packing renting and dropping off .

Enjoy your bursary from lovely oxbridge .
have a bottle of bubbly for me .

SlimSchadee · 24/07/2026 01:00

OP I don’t know what kind of magical maths you are using to come up with something but if you are going to have two kids in secondary and then sixth form (assuming starting in Y9 but in reality could be earlier), the numbers just don’t add up. At 50, earning £90k gross together - if you take out a large enough remortgage to pay 75% of the school fees, you won’t have enough money left over to pay your mortgage each month. It’s also likely that school fees will keep going up - my daughter’s boarding school just put the fees up £6k pa. You either need to get higher paying jobs, find a wealthy relative or just find a great state secondary and have a normal family life.

Ayaboo · 24/07/2026 01:39

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2026 23:31

No school interviews mothers! You clearly don't understand how any of this works. My kid is out the other side of a very good school and off to Oxbridge. Nobody has interviewed me at any point!

The focus is :
if I have more money than you .
i don’t have any changes for you . Sorry mate .
I prefer to tip my changes to uber drivers .
they are hard working and not parasite

MonGrainDeSel · 24/07/2026 07:19

I suggest you do some more research. I see elsewhere that many of the schools that you plan to apply to are exactly those which fund bursaries from current parents.

AntediluvianViews · 24/07/2026 09:43

SlimSchadee · 24/07/2026 01:00

OP I don’t know what kind of magical maths you are using to come up with something but if you are going to have two kids in secondary and then sixth form (assuming starting in Y9 but in reality could be earlier), the numbers just don’t add up. At 50, earning £90k gross together - if you take out a large enough remortgage to pay 75% of the school fees, you won’t have enough money left over to pay your mortgage each month. It’s also likely that school fees will keep going up - my daughter’s boarding school just put the fees up £6k pa. You either need to get higher paying jobs, find a wealthy relative or just find a great state secondary and have a normal family life.

I don’t think that is stressed enough.

The luxury of a normal family life.

A child would rather be at a state school and come home to security and comfort so they can do their homework and projects talk about their day. Enjoy family time.

Education must be affordable. If you can afford Bs or day independent that is fantastic. We must be aware that due to the situation unless you are in a top school in the South the quality of education has been diluted. Parents are paying more, their money, their investment in their family is being shared out more than ever before. Fees for most schools are the only revenue. Subtle changes staff covering sporting events more often, fewer trips and enrichment, catering staff departing, new menus, economising. Yet, Fees continue to increase.

The brand “private educated” is simply not what it once was. That’s a fact. Labour have three more years focused on levelling up state and slowing growth of independent. These are just facts.

Talk is no more of the impressive uniforms it’s of the struggle. State families who have secured great placements off on all the summer holidays, kids having treats and a huge budget for tutors for any area they deem necessary. Balanced school/home life.

Until independent schools hold a client base of full fee payers (bar the few exceptional gifted students within communities who have earned bursary discount by being academically assessed and financially assessed) they are spreading the pool of money they have from the limited full fee payers too thin and ultimately it is not value for money. It’s simple budgeting. Unsustainable. Don’t put financial burden onto the shoulders of children, that level of stress and worry about finance will cause major anxiety and defeat the purpose. There cannot be a tiered financial structure. Everyone must pay the same.

Gengha · 24/07/2026 10:18

Ayaboo · 23/07/2026 22:25

Maybe you never experienced state schools . We experienced best state in richest neighbourhood …. still ……….. kid punch female teacher tummy

Yes I went to a state school and have a law degree from a RG university and consequent good career

My children went to state school and have achieved excellent results and unconditional offers from good universities. Incl St A, Glasgow, Edinburgh (Scottish)

93% of the population went to state school

AntediluvianViews · 24/07/2026 10:30

Gengha · 24/07/2026 10:18

Yes I went to a state school and have a law degree from a RG university and consequent good career

My children went to state school and have achieved excellent results and unconditional offers from good universities. Incl St A, Glasgow, Edinburgh (Scottish)

93% of the population went to state school

Edited

Hard workers.

The world is changing.

A university A company are potentially going to evaluate candidates

The corruption within independent education at a competitive, selective level is well documented.

If a candidate presents with potentially the exact same grades having attended state school (with a great extra curricular breadth and humility/communication skills an ability to speak and understand all of society not a narrow margin), These are true skills and demonstration of hard work ethic.

I believe with each passing year “private school educated” is the comfort blanket universities and companies are shunning.

Private school is an option if easily affordable but not necessary to achieve the end goal.

I could join an expensive gym and be tied into inflated annual fees draining my house hold budget or….. I can pull on my trainers and run outside for free. The result is the same.

Rewaw · 24/07/2026 11:12

I think what is missing in this conversation is the high proportion of SEN in independent schools. We are full fee payers outside of London (South East). It’s worth it for us because our DC are neurodiverse and need an environment they will thrive in e.g small class sizes, rather than the daily struggle which they would have in a large state secondary. My DC’s school is approximately 40% SEN. There are lots of academic, high-functioning autistic types that just wouldn’t cope elsewhere. Year groups are 50 at their school vs 300 at the local comprehensive. You just can’t compare the difference in the levels of support and knowledge of the child and their needs.

For lots of parents, it is not about grades or attending a RG university, I achieved straight A’s throughout my state education, yet I’ve chosen private for my children for the pastoral care.

Ayaboo · 24/07/2026 11:15

AntediluvianViews · 24/07/2026 09:43

I don’t think that is stressed enough.

The luxury of a normal family life.

A child would rather be at a state school and come home to security and comfort so they can do their homework and projects talk about their day. Enjoy family time.

Education must be affordable. If you can afford Bs or day independent that is fantastic. We must be aware that due to the situation unless you are in a top school in the South the quality of education has been diluted. Parents are paying more, their money, their investment in their family is being shared out more than ever before. Fees for most schools are the only revenue. Subtle changes staff covering sporting events more often, fewer trips and enrichment, catering staff departing, new menus, economising. Yet, Fees continue to increase.

The brand “private educated” is simply not what it once was. That’s a fact. Labour have three more years focused on levelling up state and slowing growth of independent. These are just facts.

Talk is no more of the impressive uniforms it’s of the struggle. State families who have secured great placements off on all the summer holidays, kids having treats and a huge budget for tutors for any area they deem necessary. Balanced school/home life.

Until independent schools hold a client base of full fee payers (bar the few exceptional gifted students within communities who have earned bursary discount by being academically assessed and financially assessed) they are spreading the pool of money they have from the limited full fee payers too thin and ultimately it is not value for money. It’s simple budgeting. Unsustainable. Don’t put financial burden onto the shoulders of children, that level of stress and worry about finance will cause major anxiety and defeat the purpose. There cannot be a tiered financial structure. Everyone must pay the same.

exactly :

either mums pay cash
Or
kids pay mental health

exploits your own kids’ Labour to save money is abuse .

calculate aiming at other people kids fee from their pocket is 🤮 parasite .

Ayaboo · 24/07/2026 11:17

Rewaw · 24/07/2026 11:12

I think what is missing in this conversation is the high proportion of SEN in independent schools. We are full fee payers outside of London (South East). It’s worth it for us because our DC are neurodiverse and need an environment they will thrive in e.g small class sizes, rather than the daily struggle which they would have in a large state secondary. My DC’s school is approximately 40% SEN. There are lots of academic, high-functioning autistic types that just wouldn’t cope elsewhere. Year groups are 50 at their school vs 300 at the local comprehensive. You just can’t compare the difference in the levels of support and knowledge of the child and their needs.

For lots of parents, it is not about grades or attending a RG university, I achieved straight A’s throughout my state education, yet I’ve chosen private for my children for the pastoral care.

Should not U.K. government picking up this bill for SEN ?

not from my £10k council tax

Ayaboo · 24/07/2026 11:26

So say :

I am fed up with Tesco food .
now I demand harrods food .

Harrods has bursary. Other fee paying customers MUST share the pie 🥧 ?
my kids now can some crumbles off their plate . But has to stay until 9pm to do some cleaning . ( or even not )

now we are a family of IBS life long condition , we can only eat harrods food , or we will have accidents everywhere we go .
so every fee paying healthy customers who spent in harrods MUST share their pie ?

Rewaw · 24/07/2026 11:29

Ayaboo · 24/07/2026 11:17

Should not U.K. government picking up this bill for SEN ?

not from my £10k council tax

Why are you picking up the bill from your £10k council tax? I don’t think anyone pays £10k council tax, and that doesn’t go towards private education anyway.

My full fees are paying for my DC, no one else.