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Prepping for a pandemic....8

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wheresmymojo · 28/02/2020 21:54

8th thread on prepping for a pandemic and following the risk of a COVID pandemic.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar Thanks

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

If you bulk buy hand gel with a high alcohol content make sure it is stored somewhere safe other than the one you’re using. It is flammable!

OP posts:
WorriedMam2020 · 01/03/2020 18:35

Shocked that people are still planning to and thinking it will be ok to go on forgoing holidays over the summer etc!

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 18:38

An update following PM @BorisJohnson's visit to Public Health England @PHE_uk to meet those working on coronavirus. t.co/IfRx2CzwX9

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 18:41

Coronavirus: School in Republic of Ireland closed for 14 days t.co/y838kbXxie

WorriedMam2020 · 01/03/2020 18:47

Fucksake. Still just hand washing. PUT SOME PROPER MEASURES IN PLACE!

pemberlyshades · 01/03/2020 19:00

@RedLentilYellowLentil shit. I fucking hope that's not true. That's next level.

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 19:01

Iceland reports 2nd case of coronavirus; government says everyone returning from Italy should self-quarantine for 14 days t.co/eUoE2b20hL

WorryAboutCovid · 01/03/2020 19:08

I ended up writing an email to school. At that time, as I quoted in my email, Germany was 79 and France was 100. Now, just over 4 hours later it is 129 and 130. :(

I do hope we get an update from school tomorrow, although I am not expecting one. I think we will be stopping DS from going.

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 19:11

I'm dreading tomorrows numbers

CrapTVAddict · 01/03/2020 19:12

In addition to what other people have in grab bags I have put the following some may find useful to have as well

Photocopies of passports and birth certificates. Passport also doubles as photo of family in case separated
Contact numbers written down in case phones have no charge
Spare change
Disposable gloves
Carrier bag for dirty clothes /rubbish etc

MoonlightMistletoe · 01/03/2020 19:20

Ofwarren- I am aswell. I still can't find any updates on the London case it's making me wonder why 🤔

F88koffBoris · 01/03/2020 19:26

I have a very mithering cat called Boris I frequently tell him Fuck off Boris. Love him dearly but he can be a total pain in the arse

After watching Boris on the twitter feed just then I said exactly the same
Oh the irony Anyway "wash your hands whilst singing Happy Birthday twice"
Fuck off Boris

DigitalGhost · 01/03/2020 19:29

The Bradford case is a woman from Ilkley.

"The paper now understands public health officials are bracing themselves for the likelihood of more cases at the BRI and Airedale Hospital.

The councillor is urging those in Bradford to remain calm."

Having a C-section at Airedale in April. God dammit.

TheMammothHunters · 01/03/2020 19:34

I work near Ilkley Shock
Not sure when the point will come that I say no more, keep the 3 of at home.
I really wish they would close school.

ItsNotJustTheFuckingFlu · 01/03/2020 19:36

@wheresmymojo, I'm happy to keep an eye on thread filling up and will start the next one if I'm around and you're not.

Tesco order just arrived, no subs and only thing missing was hand gel.

AlanRickmanslovely · 01/03/2020 19:37

I haven't read the full thread yet so could some one please explain what the reason is for grab bags?

Puppycorn · 01/03/2020 19:37

I don’t know if I’m the one who is anxious and paranoid about all this virus/ prepping when all other mums at dd’s school are more interested in serious discussions about book day costumes and costumes for spring weddings.

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 19:37

Scotland reports first case of coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

AvocadoOwl · 01/03/2020 19:39

This is interesting: more re new Washington case looking linked to a case there in January, based on gene sequencing. www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/health/coronavirus-washington-spread.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

BridgeToTerabithia · 01/03/2020 19:40

My two who are following are making the case now they should stay off school. I think it has more to do with being sods than Corona! Grin Good lads tho Wink One of them even remarked "Mum, we don't even have masks, you need to get some" Little does he know! (He was a bit of a Brexit pepper fan too!)

MoonlightMistletoe · 01/03/2020 19:40

Scotland reports first case.

0ttoline · 01/03/2020 19:45

I can recommend this recipe for golden syrup cake. Apart from some butter, it uses all store-cupboard ingredients, no eggs. It's delicious and also extremely quick and easy to make.

aspoonfulofsugardesigns.com/2013/05/golden-syrup-cake/

ofwarren · 01/03/2020 19:45

NEW: MotoGP says the Grand Prix of Qatar has been canceled due to coronavirus

Bessica1970 · 01/03/2020 19:48

I only just realised today that you can freeze eggs! We’re lucky enough to have a decent sized freezer, so will give this a go so we can make cake when the shop bought ones run out

Cismyfatarse1 · 01/03/2020 19:50

Any link to the Scottish case?

aliasname · 01/03/2020 19:51

AlanRickman I think it's so that you have all your essential information (eg prescription medications) plus stuff you need like clean underwear at hand. In the event you need to suddenly take a child to hospital, or something like that.

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