May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

Great new thread rachel!

Sorry I have been so crap at keeping up with you all. Along with the craziness of looking after Chloe, DH and I have been having a really rough time. To be honest we've argued loads for a long time, sometimes it feels there is never a break from it. But over the past week he has said he wants to split. Half of me thinks it's right, but the other half is just heartbroken, especially as Chloe has just arrived. I'm heartbroken for her as he is not willing to even try for her sake. We've only been married 2yrs 4months. Been streaming over the wedding pics this morning - where I look so dam skinny, oh how I can't wait to get back to that! Oh and tomorrow is my birthday, and frankly it's going to be shit. I just hope he can still give me a card.

Quick question for you all - tomorrow I'll be day 21 postnatal and hoped to start taking Microgynon again (clearly in the current situ not as a contraceptive measure, but would just like to get my cycle back to normal asap). I have an appt with the practice nurse in the morning for blood pressure etc and for a new prescription for it, but am still having light/sporadic bleeding from the birth. Have any of you gone back to the pill at day 21 still bleeding?

Sorry for me post. Don't mean to be selfish. Will come back later to catch up on all your news but Chloe is stirring for a feed now. Love to all x

Thanks for the new thread rachel. first1 don't even think that you are being selfish!! It sounds as though you are going through a really tough time so feel free to vent on here as much as you need to. Sometimes it's easier to do it here than in RL so use us as much as you need.

I have no advice to offer you about your contraception I'm afraid - I didn't go back on the pill after DD1 (we knew we didn't want a huge gap between DC so just used condoms) and I'm not yet taking anything this time around either.

hi all
i've been pretty much missing too,... motherhood is so hard...
first1 is so sad that your dh is not willing to support you, he really sound like a jerk, sorry, the first 2 weeks post birth are really hard, i just cried most of the time for no reason, and was exhausted, couldn't have a conversation straight, my dh says that the most difficult thing was to put up with me on top of everything needing doing and the baby, surely your dh knows you need time to adapt and your life together is not gonna be like this for long, you haven't been married for that long either, surely is worth trying for a little more, especially as things will get easier and more normal as the baby grows,... and with your birthday so soon too, you need reasons to cheer up, not him giving you a hard time, a good question would be: were things going wrong before the pregnancy and birth, or is it just he is overwhelmed right now?, please, don't feel compelled to answer, is just a thought, because if this is a very recent thing, due to the changes, he might regret it pretty soon, and if it was me, having left me with a very small baby, i don't know if i would take him back.
and that is my bit of 'counseling' done, sorry if it unwelcome, feel free to ignore me.

i have other problems, i don't seem to get breastfeeding right, oscar didn't latch until he was 4 weeks old,(he is now 6) we can now do it ptoperly, but my nipples crack, so applying the lanoling cream constantly, nipple shield does not help much, great for my nipples, difficult for oscar to feed, but he always seem hungry afterwards, so i give him a bottle, after most feed anyway, especially at night, peer support keeps telling me to not do it so my flow will improve, but he is constantly hungry, and i am so sore,... does anyone have a magic solution for me?

Thanks for the new thread Rachel - aren't we all grown up now?!!

Congratulations Homebirthmummy4 on the birth of Virginia (pretty name!). Sorry to hear you had such a traumatic time around the birth, but well done on making it home now - it must be such a relief to be out of hospital and back in your own surroundings.

Hollyoaks - fantastic news about Grace getting back to her birthweight and being official! We had to pay for the full birth certificate too, and ended up getting a couple of copies so we could send one off with the child benefit application and one with the passport application as we had to do both at the same time.

ML - the jabs sound heartbreaking, I know so many people who have struggled to hold themselves together when their LO screams at the jabs, so you're certainly not alone in being tearful. When you think about it, we're genetically programmed to find our babies' distress upsetting.

Molly - we have a http://www.mamasandpapas.com/cat/u-go/ u-go sling from mamas & papas. I haven't tried feeding in it yet, but it seems like it would be easy to do. Felix loves it too, which is a bonus. The few times we have used it so far he has fallen asleep within 30 seconds of us putting him in it!

first1 sorry about your current difficulties with your DH. You sound remarkably calm. Like Carikube said, feel free to come on here and vent whenever you want. I hope you manage to have some happy moments on your birthday tomorrow.

Alle - good to see you back! I have no magic solution for you I'm afraid. My flow varies enormously depending on the time of day. In the middle of the night and in the early morning it is much faster than in the afternoon and evening. I didn't realise that until I started trying to express and got completely different amounts out at different times. Now I try to express some early in the morning when my flow is good and use it sometimes to top up after the evening feed.

We had a good night last night. F was a bit unsettled in the evening, but then slept from 10.30-2.30 and again from 3.15-7am. Today he slept from 10am-1.30 while we were out with the NCT girls, and has now been asleep since 3pm.

I'm thinking of going to a mum&baby showing at the cinema tomorrow morning with a friend. It's at 10.30am, when he's usually asleep, so hopefully it will be ok. Then tomorrow evening I'm going to leave F at home with DH while I go into town for leaving drinks of one of my colleagues. Expressing like mad today, so that DH has plenty of milk for Felix while I'm out!

Better go and get some jobs done before F wakes up. Not too many though - I don't want DH to come home and think this maternity leave malarkey is easy!

Oops, will try that link to the sling again, sorry! u-go sling

thanks rachel first so sorry, thats all you need do you have any family support?

alle sorry to hear you finding it hard, it is very hard, depends on baby too. my first baby, my dd, was very hard work, fretful, always feeding/crying, not sleeping. alex is easy compared to her, she took until 18 weeks to reach his sleeping pattern at night and he only 4 weeks! i cried most days and would call my dh begging him to come home. i made him promise to never let us have any more children and 2 years later ...... dont worry re feeding, breast feeding not for everyone. i give 2 bottles a day now ... 10pm, 2am ish

some babies are just hungrier ....

Thanks rachel, Ihave been reading the old thread, but my one-handed typing is spectacuarly slow - so I am starting afresh with the new thread!
Sorry alle but i have no expert bf wisdom - I am finding Bfeeding easier but still bloody painful, anyone else used a breastfeeding counsellor, or asked the NCT? Was thinking about it, maybe i need my latch checking. Giving 1/2 bottles of formula a day, usually early eve when supply seems less.
The nether regions seem to have calmed down abit (TMI?) thank god.
Finn has developed two deligtful new habits - growling and twisting his head from side to side while Bfeeding (ouch), like a dog with a toy, - and screaming from six till eleven every night. Nice. Didnt go to sleep till midnight last night, then when he slept for 5 ours, i was worried! Crazy lady.
first1 so sorry you are having a shit time of it, these weeks are hard enough without anything extra to deal with. I hope you have some lovely friends/family to surround yourself with and make the most of tomorrow. Big hug.
mdm jealous of your cinema trip! our cinema is rubbish and doesnt do mum and baby screenings

Hello everyone - great to be on the new thread.

I haven't touched the computer for over a week, apart from to get DS2 on the Cbeebies website, so apologies for the absence.

Caleb is 2 weeks old tomorrow and doing well, feeding constantly - still not back up to his birth weight, yet to me he looks massive. I can't believe he was in me or that I got him out! Had a touch of mastisis yesterday and managed to head it off at the pass with a hot flannel and persevering with the feeding - very painful.

I know it's vain, but I'm so impatient to lose the jelly belly. I'm in that horrible no-mans-land between maternity clothes and my old clothes. Nothing fits or is suitable for breastfeeding. I'm just slobbing around like Waynetta in trackies and a shapeless yogurty smelling top. Hmm, sexy.

I will try and take some time to read through the posts and catch up. first1 I really feel for you, hope you have someone to talk to. Happy birthday for tomorrow.

Good to be back!

ive name changed

Thank you to all of you. carikube you're right somehow it seems easier to vent on here. I've only confided in my mum and my best friend, but even then I dont seem to get it all out.

alle We've had niggly problems for quite some time to be fair. About a week before Chloe was born he told me he didnt love me anymore. Lovely guy - perfect timing. I wonder if thats why I went so overdue, perhaps my body knew I wasnt mentally prepared but thats me going off on a tangent. It broke me to my core hearing it then but clutched at straws that him watching his first child being born would make him see differently. I had a 3rd degree tear so was whisked off to theatre 15mins after she was born. He didnt seem to show much concern for me. Three weeks on and he's told me his feelings have not changed at all and that "the baby isnt going to change my feelings".

Just feel so so low right now. My mum gave me a telling off for losing too much weight too quickly. This is my first baby though so I dont know what is too much too quick, but have lost 2 stone in 3weeks and I know my lack of appetite is centered around all of this.

Dont know whether I'm coming or going

homebirth Congratulations on Virginia! So sorry to hear you had a bad time of it. So glad that you are home. I had 6 days in the hosp and that was bad enough, although mainly me the problem and a little bit Sam. Can't imagine what it must have been like. I def have a few issues over Sam's birth that I didn't realise as we kept so calm at the time, although clearly v stressed in retrospect. I find that anytime on telly in any program if someone gives birth I find myself weeping a little. Think it is good to talk about the experience to finally get all the feelings out.

first1 What a sod. Sorry, but he is. What a thing to say just as you're about to give birth and I think some concern was warranted when you were whisked off from a decent human being perspective regardless of his feelings. Could he not have waited till new baby and mummy had settled in a bit before broaching the obviously v difficult subject. Please feel free to vent and we will support you as much as we can. I lost 21 pounds in first week as a result of weight of baby etc and horrible hospital food for a week, but don't know what is normal. Try and eat well although I understand how hard it must be with what is going on. Again, tell me to sod off if this is the wrong thing for you to hear right now. Sending you big hugs. S xxx

alle01 Sorry you are having such a hard time, but good for you for persevering. Thins is my 1st, so not really in any positon to give advice. i'm taking BF one day at a time, but I've been quite lucky so far.

ML well done on getting back to pre baby shape. V jealous

mdm mum & baby cinema sounds fab. I'll need to find if there is one close to me. Dying to see SATC2 and Eclipse when it's out.

peaksy Ouch that sounds v painful. I'm a crazy lady too. onstatly worried he's not feeding enough and now think I'm feeding him too much!

alimouse I'm the same. In leggings and vest top and struggling to find anything that looks half way presentable for visitors or walk etc. I need to lay off the biscuits!

Had first day without DH today. Went pretty well really. Knacked after disruptive night with Sam, awake every hour again. Think it was result of not feeding him enough during day as HV made me feel that I was overfeeding him. Screw that, he is not even 4 weeks. Not going to get hung up on it and feed him when he wants fed. S x

first1..Im so sorry that things are not good for you at the moment..the all important question is..do you still love each other? if so..will he consider relate? new babies can put a lot of strain on a relationship..but it does get easier..my dh and I have been rowing like crazy..he seems to be behaving like a right wazzock lately

congrats homebirth..sorry it was so traumatic for you..I can relate to those feelings as my delivery with ds2 was horrific...if you get the chance talk it over with the hospital, HV or midwife because it helps to give some sort of closure iyswim

Ive just had a brainstorm this evening and told DH what I think of his father...his dads partner forbids him from having much to do with us so subsequently he hasnt seen dd2 since she was 2 as that was the last time he came to visit..shes 6 in July
he will probably never lay eyes on DD3 as he will never visit and we are not welcome down there to visit..he displays no photos of our children in the house because he is "not allowed"..yet he is always babysitting his partners grandchildren and the house is full of her pfamily photos..DD2 doesnt even know who he is..we havent even had a congratulations card...bloody hell..I certainly seemed to have drawn the short straw with my useless family..my aunt only lives 40 mins away..never seen her..DM only manages to visit once a week despite being retired and my dad hasnt seen me for 10 years...sigh..feel very weepy this evening..my poor children..I feel like theyve just been rejected..

first1 your H (I can't use the D right now) is an arse and has been very cruel. Pregnancy, having a baby and the early days of parenthood are blardy stressful and put pressure on all relationships. But surely that's obvious. I would second Relate if possible - me and my DH went through a very tough time a few years ago and it really helped us. Try to be good to yourself. If you need space, could you stay with your Mum for a few days. Rant away if it helps.

HBmummy - sounds dreadful. You will take time to recover from events. My DH nearly died 3 years ago and anything that reminded me and anniversaries etc really hurt for at least two years. Time will heal. It will be great to be home but you will probably find you're even more tired than when you were in hospital.

Sorry you're struggling ML. I am so anxious these days. I had similar after dd1 but had PND after ds so am a bit concerned. Am doing too much I think. Went to my meeting today. It was ok but took a lot out of me. Molls is still a super chilled baby and everything is going well. I am planning if I'm not too knackered to go to breast feeding group tomorrow.

Yey we all made it to the postnatal thread thank you Rachel for starting one, 14 posts already will not be able to keep up with personals so forgive me, Jacob is stirring already, I can never get 5 mins on here just now, am reading just not posting

Slings - I am loving my moby, cannot rant about it enough, I fed Jacob in it today for the first time whilst walking about, meals on wheels or legs? DP calls it the magic sling as he settles so quick in it.

first1 - oh poor you, I agree your not so DH is a sod, talk about timing he could have waited 6 weeks or so until you got yourself a bit together. I hope things work out for you please keep posting here we will try and support you all we can

homebirthmum4 - congratulations on the birth of Virginia, sorry to hear you had such a hard time of it though poor you

contraception - haven't been on the pill since before DD1, used condoms inbetween babies but I have had mine all so close together am usually pregnant a lot. DP is talking about the snip as J is definitely our last baby

sassles - I didn't think you could overfeed a BF baby? at your HV

peaky - ouch just wait until they have teeth and get nosy and want to feed and see what is going on, turning around with your niplle in their mouth

better dash will try and post a bit more tomorrow

hello ladies! we are finally on the other side! yeah!

HBM congratulations and hope all runs smoothly now you are home.

first1 that is very bad timing on your husbands part...then again men seem to have impecable timing when its something important. i would do as the others have said and try relate, other than that i can offer no advice about relationships as im going it alone for the second time. regarding weight loss dont worry about that just try and eat, i have to even when not hungry otherwise my milk is shite and she wants to feed more...plus i have to remember to feed Ds too! i would second having a stay with your mum or friend, as it takes the pressure of a bit. rant as much as you want to on here.

ML im dreading florence's needles, luckly we have to make a seperate appointment for postnatal check and baby 8 week check.

mollycuddles i also suffered PND after Ds and am worried that it will rear its ugly head tonight. it was friend who noticed last time and tonight i went to visit a friend and she said i didnt seem myself...am wonderin if im losing the plot again! although dont feel like i did last time.

well ladies tomorrow is judgement day, i dont think ive passed but will hopefully be able to save face and get results online ( some are being put there) but may have to jolly on down to uni if not. florence has had an ok day but last night was horrific after a brilliant night on monday...i think i have found the cause though the medication she is on seems to now cause her disconfort as ive diet changed, so i havent given it too her this pm and she has been a very happy baby, but will now be recording sleeps and feeds to see if there is a pattern as well as all i eat...will be keeping paperchase in business at least!

ok off to bed hope all are well.

oh and ML- dont worry about family (extended) it is you and your family that matter, as long as you love your children they will never care who they have or havent seen...oh and i havent seen my dad since i was 12 and he found me through facebook ( would need a whole thread just to go into it) i dont ever worry that my children arent loved enough and that you are worrying about it makes me think that your children have enough love just from you! xx

Hi All

Rachel thank you for the new thread!

Homebirthmummy4 - congrats on the birth of Virginia but that you and she had a difficult time of it. We had to go to SCBU with DS1 because he had an infection shortly after birth and had to have IV antibiotics. It was absolutely horrible and he wasn't even that ill compared to the other mites in there, so I can't imagine how it must feel to have a seriously ill child. I hope she is fully recovered now.

First1 - that is awful, what an idiot your DH is. How could he say something so needlessly cruel so close to the birth of your darling daughter? You mustn't let his appalling behaviour affect your memories and experiences with your new baby. FWIW, my advice would be to take care of yourself and your daughter first and foremost - sometimes, it is better for a child to grow up in a household where they are loved totally by one good parent than in a house where there are two parents but one doesn't really want to be there iyswim. My own questions to ask would be a lot like ML said - do you still love him, and can you forgive and forget hs behaviour and move on? I hope you manage to get it sorted out and feel free to rant on here as much as you need. Much love to you and your DD.

Molly - it sounds like you do loads, I couldn't contemplate even going near work at the moment much less having the concentration to deal with a meeting! Slow down if you feel that you are doing too much, you never get these days back and you should enjoy them!

Peaky - like the new name!

ML - we have similar issues with DH's brother who has photo everywhere of his goddaughter but none of our children who are his only nephew and niece - it can be so upsetting but I just try to rise above it (don't always succeed!)

Alle - no such thing as a magic solution, sorry! I topped up DS1 when BFing wasn't working for him and it did make my supply reduce - hope you get it to work for you!

MDM - we went to a Mum and Baby cinema screening when DS was tiny -I think it was Shrek 3 as I didn't want DS1 exposed to the sound of guns and bombs as a baby (he was a bit of a PFB). It was called the Big Scream and that was about right - all you could hear were the babies screaming, hardly any sound at all!! It was v funny but DH needed a paracetemol when he came out. Was just nice to get out of the house though!

Ali - it's not vain to just want to get your own body back after it has been hijacked by the baby for the last 9 months!

No real news to report here - was meant to be taking DD wedding dress shopping tomorrow with my friend who is getting married in October but have chickened out of it and meeting her for coffee on Friday instead. Just fancy chilling in the sun tbh - we get so little of it! Hope everyone else is well.

Hi All

Rachel thank you for the new thread!

Homebirthmummy4 - congrats on the birth of Virginia but that you and she had a difficult time of it. We had to go to SCBU with DS1 because he had an infection shortly after birth and had to have IV antibiotics. It was absolutely horrible and he wasn't even that ill compared to the other mites in there, so I can't imagine how it must feel to have a seriously ill child. I hope she is fully recovered now.

First1 - that is awful, what an idiot your DH is. How could he say something so needlessly cruel so close to the birth of your darling daughter? You mustn't let his appalling behaviour affect your memories and experiences with your new baby. FWIW, my advice would be to take care of yourself and your daughter first and foremost - sometimes, it is better for a child to grow up in a household where they are loved totally by one good parent than in a house where there are two parents but one doesn't really want to be there iyswim. My own questions to ask would be a lot like ML said - do you still love him, and can you forgive and forget hs behaviour and move on? I hope you manage to get it sorted out and feel free to rant on here as much as you need. Much love to you and your DD.

Molly - it sounds like you do loads, I couldn't contemplate even going near work at the moment much less having the concentration to deal with a meeting! Slow down if you feel that you are doing too much, you never get these days back and you should enjoy them!

Peaky - like the new name!

ML - we have similar issues with DH's brother who has photo everywhere of his goddaughter but none of our children who are his only nephew and niece - it can be so upsetting but I just try to rise above it (don't always succeed!)

Alle - no such thing as a magic solution, sorry! I topped up DS1 when BFing wasn't working for him and it did make my supply reduce - hope you get it to work for you!

MDM - we went to a Mum and Baby cinema screening when DS was tiny -I think it was Shrek 3 as I didn't want DS1 exposed to the sound of guns and bombs as a baby (he was a bit of a PFB). It was called the Big Scream and that was about right - all you could hear were the babies screaming, hardly any sound at all!! It was v funny but DH needed a paracetemol when he came out. Was just nice to get out of the house though!

Ali - it's not vain to just want to get your own body back after it has been hijacked by the baby for the last 9 months!

No real news to report here - was meant to be taking DD wedding dress shopping tomorrow with my friend who is getting married in October but have chickened out of it and meeting her for coffee on Friday instead. Just fancy chilling in the sun tbh - we get so little of it! Hope everyone else is well.

well, first night at home. virginia was unsettled from 3pm-8pm but once she got to sleep she was great. i think she was overtired. then i fed her at 1am and 4am and had to try to wake her at 6.30 as my breast was about to explode. it is sooo good to be home. thank you all for your support i will try to talk to midwife when i see her. must dash as i have to feed the older children. love to you all.

Ooh a lovely new thread

No time to post, off too paint fathers day present at Pot-a-doodle do.

First1 - really and for you. No advice to offer really but thinking about you.

Homebirth - glad you had a good night

Will try to come back on later.

Morning!

first1 with regards to weight loss, please make sure that you are still eating a reasonable diet. I know it's hard at the moment with everything you are going through but your LO needs you to be in as good a shape as possible and the last thing you need now is to get ill as well. Your DH does sound as though he has impeccable timing. I guess it's what others have said ie is the situation irretrievable or do you both want to salvage something in which case it definitely sounds like it's worth giving Relate a call.

homebirthmummy congratulations and sorry you had such a hard time. I just hope that everything goes well for you now you're at home.

Quick question - and those of you struggling with non-sleeping babies, please don't flame me!!! DD2 went from 8.30pm - 6am without a feed and I'm a bit concerned about it. She fed at 8.30pm last night; she sounded like she was stirring at midnight so I got up to feed her before she made too much noise. However in spite of trying to get her to latch for the next hour, she was more asleep than awake so I ended up putting her back down (thinking that she'd wake up in the next 30 mins or so). She then didn't wake up for a feed until 6am, so she basically did nearly 10 hours without a feed. I'm trying to work out whether I shouldn't complain and just hope that this is a new trend, or whether this is actually a sign that she's not ok. She's still doing a lot of wet/dirty nappies - anyone got any advice as to whether I should be concerned?

First1 - So sorry to hear you're having a rough time. With DD1, ex-P and I had troubles from when I was pregnant and split when she was a few months old. It's a rough time, when you're sleep-deprived, hormonal etc. Not the best time to be coping with a troubled relationship and making life-changing decisions. Reading your posts has really brought it all flooding back - the turmoil and deep depression at a time when everything thinks you should be at your happiest. Don't be pressured itno losing weight this early on. Dieting really isn't recommended with BFing. And do vent here = you need all the support you can get. I hope you're having a nice birthday, all things considered, and are getting lots of lovely baby cuddles.

Peaky - LOL aat the dog impressions! My LO does it - I think it's when she's trying to poo and feed at the same time, or when she has wind but is feeding through it. She's also a misery guts in the evening - guess she's colicky?

Memory - sorry to hear about the lack of family support. I'm a good two hours from my lot but they don't make much effort whereas I will. BUt I do throw the occasional strop and refuse to make the trip to visit them, thinking they should make an effort too. Like you, I feel sorry for the children. Would be useful to have good family support for us mums too!

Tomlin - LOL at your cinema experience!

Sweetkitty and Sassles - I asked my HV if i was overfeeding HobnobJunior, as she can feed, feed, feed and is putting on soooo much wweight. She said no, it's impossible to! But LO does do over a dozen pooey nappies a day - she just gets rid of what she doesn't need!

Caikube - I'm no expert, but my usual philosophy is: Baby knows best. If she was hungry, she'd demand food - well, my LO one would, any way!

Itshappenedagain - I have my fingers crossed for you!

And good news here - LO finally passed her hearing test. Fourth time lucky! Such a relief!

Hope you're all enjoying the sunshine - good washing weather...

Hello - can I join in? I didn't post on the previous thread at all, but do have a May baby - dd2, born on 17 May, so a month old today. (Doesn't time fly when you spend most of it in a sleepy haze on a rocking chair?)

Caikube - dd1 (now 6) did this from around week 3, she was big and happily gaining weight so midwife said that we should just count our lucky stars (and not tell too many other new parents ). dd2 is more of your 'standard' baby (feeds more often, sleeps erratically, slightly colicky), sweet but not a 'sleeper' - so now we're really beginning to appreciate how easy we had it first time around...

Hello everyone...
I see we are now all official "postnatal"

• thanks Rachel.

Like others im always reading but by the tme ive caught up theres no time to post.

first1- Firstly, Happy Birthday!!!
Sorry to hear that your having troubles with your DH. Having a baby completely changes a relationship and being your first its so a life changing event that it can upset things for a while. Sleep deprivation has alot to answer for! I hope you can get to talk things through soon.

Homebirthmummy- I think i said it on the other thread but if not..Congratulations! glad your home now.

MDM- The cinema showing sounds fab. OUrs doesnt do anything like that... but the with a toddler too id just be chasing her up and down the isles!

Ali- I know what you mean about them being inside you.. They look far too big dont they

Sassles- Glad your first day alone went well.

ML- sorry your feeling down about your family. All our family are an hours drive away and we dont see them that often so no support or help her too. My mum def favours my niece and i too find it hard when she doesnt seem as interested in DD.

Happenedagain- fingers crossed on your exam results. Let us know how you get on.

Tomlin- dont blame you...hope you get some sun. Theres always online shopping

Carikube- Blimey I thought we did well at 6hours straight last night!
not really much help though sorry!

Hobnob- great news about the hearing test! I reaf about some babies taking longer to clear the amnotic fluid from thier tubes, especially if they were cesecarian. maybe that was it?

Berelin- welcome

Been meaning to say for ages--- Storky mc stork That baby balm is fab... thank you.
Lucy is currently like a snake and shredding skin leaving silky smoothy soft skin which is just yummy so the balm is fab and stopping her looking like a scaly fish

Registered Lucy at the surgery this morning and bumped into my community MW. She was cooing over Lucy and asking about the labour.
Said she reckons she will see me again this time next year!- not sure on that one!

Made Iggle Piggle biscuits with DD this morning and have made DH a giant cookie (Alla Millies cookies ones with the messages on) that DD will "decorate" this afternoon for fathers day.

Was our 3rd wedding anniversary yesterday. What a busy 3 yrs they have been...1 new house and 2 babies later!
Went out for Chinese last night with both girls... both girls got coo'ed over big time by the chinese waitresses. Few odd looks from other diners, i suppose not many people take 2 under 2 out for a chinese.

Lovely and sunny here but very blowy which is making it abit chilly.

right best get the washing out and attempt to tidy up!- the pointless task that it is!

Hello ladies, we're postnatal just popping in as have health visitor and breastfeeding counsellor due this afternoon.
Have been discharged from physio this morning and at the moment I am actually SITTING DOWN on my bottom...not perched on my thigh or lying down hooray!

Typically though, now have feeding issues when that was all fine before apparently my flow is so fast that J has become lazy and not opening his mouth enough, resulting in cracked very sore nipples! Bf counsellor has shown us different positions to use while it heals but J gets very cross when we try to force him into it dh ended up calling him an idiot at 2am last night which is very unlike my dh & I was in floods of tears. One thing after another eh! It's made me completely understand why people give up breastfeeding.

Welcome berelin
first1 so sorry to hear your news
hobnob yay for hearing test success!
molly hope the bfing group really helps you feel more positive and is not full of bitches mums who will ignore you when you go back to work!

Must dash.