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May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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rachelfruitloop · 16/06/2010 14:21

Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

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mollycuddles · 21/06/2010 09:31

I feel your pain Pamela. I had a challenging father's day from a feeding perspective. Apart from two half hour sleeps on Daddy's chest Molly spent no more than five minutes at a time off the boob from 7am until midnight. One second after coming off she was rooting and grunting. My parents came over but fortunately have learned not to say anything about her constant feeding for fear of a bollocking. I'm hoping for a more settled day today.

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homebirthmummy4 · 21/06/2010 09:38

wow pamelat, how did you not sit in the middle of the field and have a mini strop? i totally admire your tenacity! hope your hayfever is better today and Alex settles down a bit with his feeding, i know it can be exhausting but at the same time its just wonderful to have an excuse for (another) opportunity for a cuddle. (i am trying very hard to be self disciplined and encourage Virginia to be able to settle to sleep without being held but it is hard as little babies are so un-put-down-able arent they?)

hollyoaks i have been on my own with Virginia for 1hr 20 and apart from changing her nappy she has slept in her pram all this time and i am clearing my very messy desk whilst catching up on here. it feels good to be taking back some control of my life but i do feel a bit lonely right now.

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homebirthmummy4 · 21/06/2010 09:45

oh mollycuddles, ouch! glad to hear you have parents under control though, i am struggling with my mother at the moment, i am being called all kinds and expected to put up with nastiness but heaven forbid i actually complain! on top of all the other things going on at the moment i just dont need it. my sister sent a card to Virginia hoping she got home to her sisters soon. DH and i were never mentioned once , do you think i am being over sensitive to think it was deliberate that we are missed off? she has been very verbally aggressive and judgmental toward me since i divorced my first husband 6 years ago, even though he was violent AND asked if he could 'snog' her when she was just 15 (my dd1 was 6 weeks old).

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Carikube · 21/06/2010 10:28

Morning all...
Am sitting here getting quite cross as my car was meant to be collected by the garage this am for its service and MOT so I headed out esp early to get DD1 to nursery and make sure I was back in time and the little bs still haven't turned up. They promised to be here by 10 and now they're not answering the phone. Oh well, at least I've done the household chores, started on tonight's dinner and made some banana bread...

Hope everyone is well and enjoying the sunshine

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itshappenedagain · 21/06/2010 10:46

morning ladies!

glad to hear im not the only one whos baby wants to feed all the time...especially through the night, luckly im not opposed to co-sleeping.

cari at the garage, but yeah to the banana bread.

regarding the parents opinions on the feeding all the time, did they bottle feed or are they just quick to forget. luckly im blessed with a mum who is very supportive, either that or she keeps her thoughts to herself! were off to mum and dads at the weekend as there is an agricultural show on that my DS loves, but mum is working so going with dad and mum getting there later.so get a bit of a break again.

im off to baby talk this afternoon, never to early to start! lol! anyway best go and get dressed, whilst DD is asleep. Off the libary to change books and cant go in PJs.
hope all are well and appologies for me orientated post!

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hollyoaks · 21/06/2010 16:16

Just thought I would let you all know that after seeing the consultant this afternoon (1hr20mins late) Grace has been discharged.

Basically she can be treated like any other baby. She will need a kidney and heart scan and may need a granuloma at her cord site cortorised with silver nitrate but apart from that we're extremely happy with her.

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pamelat · 21/06/2010 16:26

hollyoaks thats brilliant news! You must be so relieved

itshappenedagain - my mil b/feed but tells me 5 minutes each side is enough 3 or 4 hourly. Alex takes an hour on average but I read that that can be normal and gets quicker in few weeks. Night feeds shorter

went shopping today for bigger clothes but too depressing

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itshappenedagain · 21/06/2010 17:48

hello! five in response to your facebook, florence has been on ranitidine and gaviscon for the past 3 nearly 4 weeks. she had bad reflux. it helped a little but she was only having a small gain and still trowing up although not as much. ive changed my diet...no weat or dairy, as these can be common causes and it seems to have solved the back arching, screeming and throwing up more than the meds did. i still give gaviscon in the evenings if she seems to need it, as this seems to be when it gets to her more, but am only using 2.5 mls not the 15mls 6 times a day that we were before the diet change. hope it works for your florence though.
hope all othe ladies are ok.

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itshappenedagain · 21/06/2010 17:50

hollyoaks good news about being discharged!

pamela i need bigger clothes too...its the skin that hangs over that i hate, i can get back in my clothes they just dont look nice with the skin!

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brightredballoon · 21/06/2010 18:04

Pamelat I was clothes shopping at the weekend and got very depressed, so as another incentive for me to lose the extra 2st I have bought a few things off ebay to keep me going until I am trimmer when I will treat myself to smaller clothes!
I totally agree the feeding getting quicker, I personally think its because their mouth gets bigger and their mouth/tongues are stronger so can get a lot more milk more quickly.

hollyoaks yay well done, and well done Grace. I have a theory that babies who received special care or had some trauma when they were born take longer to lose their cords. DD1 and DD2 lost theirs about a week old, DS (in special care and on IV ABs 2 hourly for 2weeks) took over 3 wks to lose his and needed help drying it up. Same with a friend of mine and a lady on my last postnatal thread too.

Homebirth no I dont think you are over reacting at all.
I thought with DD2 being my 3rd child I thought I would be quite strict about encouraging her to self settle from early on and other things but I am in "she will most probably be my last baby so I will make the most of it whilst I can!!" so, last night I let her fall asleep on my chest and she lay there for 2 hours when I took her up to bed with me, I did that with the other two but not when they were 8wks old it was more like when they are a week old!

I am shattered today from DS keep waking upwith his teeth, I am sure this is the longest it has taken for any of his or his sisters teeth to come through. At least it was a beautiful day so we spent the afternoon at a lovely country park.

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homebirthmummy4 · 21/06/2010 20:01

hollyoaks. yay! you must be delighted.
brb thanks for support, much appreciated.

i think my milk supply is too fast for Virginia, she seems to choke a little and milk just comes out at the sides of her mouth when she is feeding and also, when she lets go i have a stream of milk anyone else have/had this situation? i am changing my tops so often i need to buy more to keep up, despite using breast pads.

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sweetkitty · 21/06/2010 20:24

hi ladies one handed typing we are on our witching hours here after a good day.

hollyoaks - fantastic news about Grace

brightred - went to Hamilton, didn't have any in stock hopefully the one I have ordered will come soon

angel - hope today was better for you, I think I would kill my DP is he thought about a dog (not that he would)

homebirthmummy - the white spots are milk spots, completely harmless, all of mine have had bad skin, spots/acne but it clears up soon, I think t's a combination of your hormones leaving their body and their skin being so new. Yes I spray milk as well especially when feeding lying down at night, it leaks. I am of the opinion do whatever it take to get through the first 3 months, you cannot make the baby have bad habits, self settling can be taught later on.

pamelat - you sounded so down earlier, Alex's feeding sounds completely normal to me, annoying when you cannot get anything done but normal, ignore the "feeding again?" comments. Yes is does settle down and they get faster and faster. Don't beat yourself up about the clothes Alex is only a few weeks old. I think I would have cried after your walk as well.

carikube - hope you got the car thing sorted

Had nice Fathers Day went to Dads Fun Day thing, DDs were happy and I carried Jacob in the sling so he was happy too. Cold seems to be going although Jacob still coughing. DD1 none the worse for her ordeal, last week of school and nursery here so no mad rush in the mornings for a while but DD2 starts school in August, my baby!

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cupcakefairy · 21/06/2010 20:45

Hello ladies been reading the thread but can't post from phone when feeding so just grabbing a few mins to catch up on laptop while dh deals with screaming baby

I think tiredness is starting to hit me now.. in my bleary eyed state the other day I put Jude's nappy on far too loose at 4am and with his willy pointing the wrong way...poor boy woke up soaking wet

V of all you going to big scream..I really miss the cinema! Dh and I used to go twice a week!

Also massively of those losing so much weight!! I have barely any clothes that fit at the moment and don't want to put my maternity clothes on!

molly gutted for you the bf group didn't work out really hope you can go again. I'm thinking of going to one tomorrow but is my first day alone with J so a bit nervous

hollyoaks great news about Grace

pamela so sorry about your FIL

tomlin yes, Jude wakes up as SOON as we put dinner on the table, no matter what time it is. We've had to get used to eating with him over a shoulder, or eating in relay!

carikube glad Alice is ok, and yay for banana bread. I made banana cake today

peaky lol to thinking it was 20mins since last feed! It does feel that way in the middle of the night!

dancingthroughlife love the new name..you a fan of Wicked?

racquel how funny about your parents and PIL- mine are the opposite always telling me 'I think he's hungry'

mustbemad sorry to hear about poor Lillia being so unhappy! Really hope you get to the bottom of it.

SK to dh having such a hard life!!

rachel sorry you're feeling emotional; feel free to vent here (when dh isn't looking!)

sassles to pneumatic drill! I'd have been out screaming at them!

hbmummy my discharge slowed right down to almost nothing a few days ago too, then suddenly started up again. I think it relates to how much activity you do. I'm also leaking through breast pads onto tops. Sometime I can squeeze out the breastpad into the sink and milk just pours off ridiculous supply!

Thanks for sympathies re nipples! I'm now expressing from the right with a borrowed medela symphony (which is AMAZING I want one!) while it heals. Hoping he can be back on both boobs soon!

Right gotta go, screaming child needs boob I think!

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alle01 · 21/06/2010 21:33

hbmummy so jealous of your supply, i cannot get a drop out without pump even in a hot bath, bf improving but still mixed feeding, the good news... i am no longer freaking out about it!!!! so what if he needs a bit of formula!

i'll try to be back later to keep reading and answer some more.

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mustbemadno3 · 21/06/2010 21:44

pamelat thanks for the advise and checking out your diary from before. Lillia is a little more settled now shes on the gaviscon and detinox, but Im wondering if my milks drying up abit. I express and can only get 2oz a.m and same in the evening. And then after feeding shes still screaming for food. And in the end I gave her formula and she downed 4oz??
But I have to say your feedin pattern sounds almost identical to mine? Apart from I think she is a quicker feeder.

hollyoaks Great news, hope scans etc go o.k for you all.

hbm Glad Virginia is doing well and wish I had your supply!

Angel hope you ok? I have been thinking about you actually, you used to be on here so much, I was wondering on how you were coping? I had pnd with ds1 it is awful, hope you recognize it and get help, dont ignore those feelings.

caribuke how an earth do you find the time to make banna cake?

In response to all those talking about dh not bonding.. I am finding this problem too, not sure if its because shes female after 2ds or because Im bfeeding? Glad to hear others are experiencing the same, well not glad but ykwim!

Went to John Lewis today with ds1. We had lunch I fed..again! Anyway leave the cafe 5 mins later shes screaming fist in mouth (you know the picture) So we get back to JL car park and I feed Lillia in the back. Clearly no milk coming out or very little so I decide to jump out car pay and just do a bottle when I get home. So I go to the paystation walk back to to the car look at ds1 face and he gos 'oh my god mum' I look down and there in full view is my titty hanging out! How utterly mortifying! I just hope I dont end up on Youtube!!!

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TomlinTowers · 21/06/2010 22:37

Hi All

Just popping on to catch up, not much to report here. We just seem to be watching football ALL THE TIME at the moment - DH sky+s the day matches and then watches the evening one live. I can't fit anything else on the sky+!! What about my Desperate Housewives and Location Location?? What am I meant to watch when feeding?!

Pamelat - don't worry about the feeding, just tell anyone who comments that it is called feeding on demand for a reason! DD was exactly the same, I was just feeding constantly and if she did manage to go more than 30 mins I was producing so much milk that I was getting engorged after about an hour! However now (5 weeks 3 days) she now feeds every 3 - 4 hours for 20 - 30 mins plus winding, has some awake time after feeding and then sleeps for 1.5 - 2 hours before next feed. And I didn't do anything to get her into that routine, she just did it herself. The best thing I have found is to use a dummy to get her to sleep in the day rather than falling asleep on boob (then she wouldn't wind properly and would wake up) and that if she hasn't had three hours from start of one feed to start of next, then I put her in the sling and walk around and she will go back off to sleep after 2 - 3 minutes until she get s decent gap between feeds, with bonus that I then have more milk so feed is better and she is properly hungry when she is feeding. Hope some of that helps, but it all sounds fine to me.

Homebirthmummy - glad Virginia is doing well. We had a similar think with DS1 where he was in SCBU for an infection for a week post birth so DH only had a week at home with DS1 before his pat leave ended. Can your DH take some additional time off in a couple of weeks to make up for the lost pat leave?

Hollyoaks - brilliant news on Grace - well done her! It's amazing how resilient they are when they are still so small.

Mustbemad - LOL at your moment of exposure! It is so easy to forget - I walked around the house a few days ago having forgotten to re-clip one side of my nursing bra - I was so lopsided when I caught sight of myself in the mirror, it was untrue! Did you tell your DS that you were celebrating National Breastfeeding Week?!

Angel - take care of yourself, you sound incredibly busy.

Clothes - I have made a pact with myself that I am absolutely NOT buying any clothes until I get back to the weight I was at my wedding 6 years ago. I was a loose size 12 when I got married, and am now a fairly well filled size 14, so I have about a stone to lose. I am going on holiday in 5 weeks and my target is half a stone by the time we go away, and then not put any one whilst we are on holiday. I am determined - I have just thrown away all the cakes and biscuits in the house, or given them to DH to take to work. I work best when there is no temptation! However, shoes and accessories aren't caught by my pact, so I will still be able to indulge in the occasional shopping trip!

We had a lovely day today - went out to Valley Park in Harrogate which is a proper Victorian park with a massive children's playground, paddling pool, boating lake, crazy golf etc. Had a picnic and a generally fab time with my Mum and Dad and the children. Took everyone for icecreams on the walk back to the car and in a fit of generosity decided to get DS a "sprinkles cone" which i thought would just be an ordinary icecream with chocolate and sprinkles around the cone rim. When the icecream arrived, it was HUGE - DS's eyes were out on stalks. It was twice the size of all the adult icecreams, but DS sat himself on his Buggy Board and ate his way through the lot despite me trying to get rid of some of it for him. Needless to say he didn't eat much tea! Bad mummy...

Also, DS said the funniest thing today. We are a family who like singing etc and I was cleaning DS's teeth and trying to teach him the chorus to Wimbeway - the bit from the Lion King that goes really high - I was trying to get him to repeat it after me, and he looked at me in all seriousness and said "Mummy, I only do Twinkle Twinkle and Baa Baa Black Sheep". I could have wept with laughter! He is becoming a real comedian - the other day I was telling him he couldn't reach the light fitting because he was a little boy, and he threw himself on the bed and said "Mummy, I'm not a boy, I'm a PERSON!" I don't know where he gets it from!

My Dsis had her 20 week scan today and all is well - but made me feel sooooo broody looking at the little scan photos, and talking about the little movements she is now feeling....we might have to start discussions about number 3. For those of you with 3 children - can you tell me honestly what it is like? Is it loads more work than 2, and is the so -called Middle Child Syndrome a reality or just an urban myth?

Seem to have waffled on a bit there, sorry - hope everyone else is doing well.

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TomlinTowers · 21/06/2010 22:39

PS - did anyone else feel sorry for Sam Cameron this weekend - bad enough to be in the papers when pg, but to have to stand next to Carla Bruni Sarkozy of all people with 7 month pg bump....!! I would have got sick note from Dr to avoid that photo op!

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memorylapse · 21/06/2010 23:08

please someone tell me to get a grip..today I have had desperatly weeping moment as I packed away dd3's newborn clothes..knowing that there will be NO MORE babies..Ive got 5 children! why do I feel broody again? shes only 9 weeks old..its must be a weird hormone thing right?? the bodys sick way of trying to trick you into getting pregnant again..well its not going to work

Hollyoaks..wonderful news

DD3 is off to the paediatrician about her reflux and blocked tear duct on friday..the duct they will leave till shes a year old..reflux will be gaviscon..seems like a waste of an appt to me

we are having to top her up at night now with formula but we have to use wysoy as shes cows milk intolerent..

discovered ds2 and dd2 have headlice..fab..sent them to bed with hedrin on..hope DD3 doesnt have them

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newmomma · 22/06/2010 08:06

hi ladies... no time at all.
just marking my place

xxx

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homebirthmummy4 · 22/06/2010 08:12

mustbemad thanks for that, made me laugh but oh dear, think i will be triple checking for a while

tomlin, he will definately be able to take time off soon, but he is snowed under at the moment heading a conference for some dutch visitors, i dont know know when the right time to ask him is, last night when he came home the first thing he did was to take crying baby from me and cuddle her. he has an amazing influence on her, she settled straightaway, when he put her in her pram to snooze i got my cuddle and he told me i am still his number 1. cue even more tears!!!!
oh and 3 children is just lovely, i have thousands of really happy memories of three little ones, and now they are bigger cleaning rotas are easier, one to wash, one to dry, one to clear the table
having said that, memorylapse like you i want another! virginia is only 14 days old and i am totally broody, despite remembering very well how horrible the last few weeks of pg were, and how traumatised i am by virginias birth, i really really cant go through that again, i want to be able to spoil (in a good way) my last child, having a fifth would massively impact our lives, WHY do post natal mums get this feeling? its totally bonkers!
i have been trying to take virginia out for a walk in her pram every day, i feel so proud walking out with her, but after about 10 minutes my pelvis really starts to hurt, is this normal or do i need to speak to mw?
well, enjoy a lovely sunny day everyone, and can i ask, those of you who manage to include everyone in their posts, do you have fab memories or do you write notes??? i am amazed at your wonderful posts and ever so

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sweetkitty · 22/06/2010 09:25

Loving the boob out moment, I have answered the door to the postman with baby attached before his face!

I had a shower last night, washed hair then about to wash the rest of me, and put the showergel on my clean hair, had to start all over again. The other one was I put DD3's PJs on Jacob the other night, pink spotty shorts! I said to DP "need to take a pic" he said "don't you dare!" erm getting all funny about the boy.

Will try and get back with more , then off to boob group then pick DD2 up.

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pamelat · 22/06/2010 12:27

Hello all, just a quickie I am afraid as HV due round to weigh Alex.

Couple of things really - there is a confirmed case of menigitus at my daughters nursery, and one suspected. Not in her class and doctor giving them all super strong anti biotics today. Have spoken to my GP, nursery and menigitus helpline and they say Alex wont need anything (5 weeks today) and that DD will be fine, no need to close nursery etc. I feel like maybe I should collect her anyway but dont want to be a hypocrandiac (spelling?) surely if any risks they would close nursery?

I feel bad (another reason to feel guilty) as know that I am wanting to leave her in nursery to enjoy my 2 days "off" with Alex, especially as he is currently asleep and I am so tired.

He is ok in the day at the moment but seems to cry from 6pm-11pm again, was hoping had got away with colic this time.

I just wanted to ask a question. Do any of your LO's yet have a bed time? Alex doesnt, he had been falling to sleep at 830pm happy but we kept him downstairs with us, and then last night he woke at 9pm really upset and I wonder whether he was over tired/disturbed and I should be doing bedtime now????

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pamelat · 22/06/2010 12:28

PS) I feel I should be more freaked out about menigitus but have been reassured by so many people. Just hope I am right to listen to them.

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pigleychez · 22/06/2010 15:36

Hello all,

Been reading but never get round to posting too.

Pamlet- How frustrating about the walk...Wait till they have kids and your are older... Payback

Carikube- Hope the car got sorted in the end.

Hollyoaks- Great news that Grace has got the all clear

Happenedagain- With you on the flabby skin tummy

Alle- Glad your more relaxed about the feeding.

Mustbemad- Loving the exposure

Tomlin- My mum says.. Your not "Demand" feeding are you?? Like its the work of Satan or something!
The park sounds lovely
Re-Sam Cameron.. Thats how I felt at my friends wedding at 36 weeks... Shes a size 8 and i looked like a beached whale!

SK- Ive done that with the showergel before... and washed myself in conditioner?!

Pamlet- Hope the menigitis at nursery doesnt spread any more. Im sure they are taking all precations necessary.
No real bedtime here yet... Lucy just comes up with us at 10.30/11 ish.

Lucy only woke once at 4 again last night... why do I still feel so tired! - Im thinking a stroppy toddler has alot to do with that

Lucy has been abit unsettled lately. Yesterday she was awake all afternoon till about 9pm but didnt like being put down and even when being held would still cry every now and again. Something must be bothering her but i cant think what. I was very drained by the end of yesterday.

Been to toddlers this morning and just sorted for us to return to DD1's swimming lessons next Monday. Fingers crossed Lucy watches nicely in her carseat. Just need to buy myself a new costume now- im thinking a Tummy control one is in order!!

Lovely sunny day here today but for some reason DD1 only wants to play indoors

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DancingThroughLife · 22/06/2010 18:26

Afternoon all. Another one who reads but doesn't get round to posting - Darcey always wakes up just as I'm about to. Can you believe we're the same chatty bunch that used to fill a thread a week???

Darcey put on 11oz this week! I can't work out if my boobs are making milk or pizza! She's been fussy about feeding too lately - squirming and grunting while feeding, which makes her swallow air and then the wind makes her unhappy. Feeding is turning into a bit of a mission, but at least she's calmer during the night feeds. Hopefully it's just a phase.

Hollyoaks - congratulations! Glad Grace is doing so well!

Cupcake - I am a Wicked fan I always get caught out singing along at traffic lights... Not great being laughed at by a car full of teenage boys - double

Angel - I was wondering how you were doing. If you fancy meeting up to get a change of scenery or people let me know. Sometimes it can help just to do something new, but with everything else you've got going on, if you don't fancy it, I completely understand!

mustbemad - ROFL! I answered the door to a delivery man just after Darcey had finished feeding the other day. She was still in my arms, but I wasn't tucked in. I don't think he saw anything though. At least, he didn't react if he did!

pamelat - no 'bed time' here either. Darcey is demand feeding too - during the day it's unpredictable. She seems to cluster feed for the 2 hours-ish before 11-12.30, then sleeps til about 4am. So bedtime moves with when her cluster feeds starts and ends.

ML - I know how you feel. Darcey is just about hanging onto her newborn clothes, but at 4 weeks, she's looking like growing out of them. I already feel nostalgic for the newborn days, and technically I guess she still is one! Hope the broody passes

Pigley - Darcey has been unsettled lately too. I wonder if it's to do with spending more time awake? Maybe she doesn't know what to do with herself while she's not being fed? Or she might just be having an insecure day and need lots of cuddles. I have days like that too!

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