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Trump fans, what are your thoughts now please?

323 replies

lentilbake16 · 19/02/2025 17:16

Just wondering.

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Farreleye · 19/02/2025 20:30

hamstersarse · 19/02/2025 20:23

I think he has got a point. The US has poured money into Ukraine with no security on that money, Europe has put in less and has security on the money.

If I was from the US, I would be happy but given I live in Europe I will now have to suck up what the Europeans should have been doing all along...if they really support Ukraine.

It is a true thing to say by Trump, that WHERE have the peace talks been so far from Europe?

Europe has not put in less by any metric than the US for a start. A lot of what the US has provided has been near to expiry US weapons or kit from US companies, the figures flouted aren't simply cash. The US have been supporting as a sovereign nation being invaded with the aim of swathes being taken over by a hostile country is not ideal. The US was also part of the agreement with Ukraine in the past that they would surrender their nuclear weapons in return for security, plus were a key player in the escalation. There have been several attempts at peace talks, Trumps plan is very much simply handing Putin what he wants, anyone could have done that even though it's not the right thing to do.

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/02/2025 20:33

Putin isn’t interested in peace talks. He’s only interested in the now because the US is now on his side and he’s likely to get what he wants with few concessions.

PandoraSox · 19/02/2025 20:35

Livelovebehappy · 19/02/2025 20:14

Ah, so you’re saying over 77million Americans who voted for him, ‘don’t think’? I supported Trump at the election, but find that his current take on the Ukraine - Russia situation is off. Ukraine were invaded, and bear absolutely no responsibility whatsoever for what’s been happening. Trump’s desperate to be the man who halts the war, and the only way that can happen is if he gives Putin what he wants, at the expense of Ukraine. I think he’s fallen for the mis-information given to him by Russia. But, I also don’t think Zellenssky is as heroic as he’s made out to be, and is a dictator in plain sight.

Can you expand on why you class Zelenskyy as a dictator?

Hamletscigar · 19/02/2025 20:40

Absolutely thrilled. Trump has far exceeded my expectations. I’m so glad we can say good bye to the cruel policies of the left that medically castrated children; that allowed boys to cheat and’s win scholarships that girls should have obtained; that housed male rapists in female prisons and that used obfuscation instead of telling the truth

Talkinpeace · 19/02/2025 20:41

DOGE have provided no evidence of anything.
They have endangered the data rights of every American.
They endanger the data security of State employees.
They are destroying essential programmes like Veteran rehoming.

Farreleye · 19/02/2025 20:41

PandoraSox · 19/02/2025 20:35

Can you expand on why you class Zelenskyy as a dictator?

Cuz trump said so xoxo

wheo · 19/02/2025 20:42

He's doing what people voted for.....don't know why this is such a crime?

I think he's brilliant

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/02/2025 20:43

Hayley1256 · 19/02/2025 20:27

All of it, you've just assumed stuff based on the larger far right characters. It would be like me summing up all the left as snowflakes. I'm quite centered but know a lot of people who describe themselves as right wing and a few who describe themselves as left wing. The ones on the right are not how you describe and tend to be more informed and optionated then the ones I know on the left ( who's views seem to change depending on what's trending on twitter that day)

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Trump in my opinion is far right. The poster said the left do not understand the right. As this is a thread about Trump, I leaned even further to the right. I haven’t assumed anything, I have a History degree.

wheo · 19/02/2025 20:43

Hamletscigar · 19/02/2025 20:40

Absolutely thrilled. Trump has far exceeded my expectations. I’m so glad we can say good bye to the cruel policies of the left that medically castrated children; that allowed boys to cheat and’s win scholarships that girls should have obtained; that housed male rapists in female prisons and that used obfuscation instead of telling the truth

Hear hear!! How anyone can have an issue with this I don't know!

PandoraSox · 19/02/2025 20:45

wheo · 19/02/2025 20:42

He's doing what people voted for.....don't know why this is such a crime?

I think he's brilliant

Did Trump have crawling up Putin's backside in his manifesto?

Farreleye · 19/02/2025 20:45

wheo · 19/02/2025 20:43

Hear hear!! How anyone can have an issue with this I don't know!

Going to have a wild guess that most people aren't just focused on one element. Shame womens reproductive rights are being stripped seen as though he allegedly cares so much about women isn't it.

Hayley1256 · 19/02/2025 20:46

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/02/2025 20:43

Trump in my opinion is far right. The poster said the left do not understand the right. As this is a thread about Trump, I leaned even further to the right. I haven’t assumed anything, I have a History degree.

The poster said the left don't understand the right, not the far right. I read your post as though you were describing all the right not just the far right. Not sure what your history degree has to with understanding the current thought processes of the voting population.

Marmiteenthusiast · 19/02/2025 20:48

@Hamletscigar Absolutely. This policy is a real win for common sense and a huge victory for women and girls. Wish they'd do that here!

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/02/2025 20:49

ThejoyofNC · 19/02/2025 18:17

Well he's delivering on promises. I'd desperately love for a DOGE type of audit in this country, the spending they've uncovered is absolutely criminal.

They fired nuclear safety officers, then had to scramble to rehire them.

www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-reacts-fired-rehired-nuclear-weapons-security-workers-2032963

And Trump said, "No, not at all. I think we have to just do what we have to do. It's, you know, you're going to— it's amazing what's been found right now. It's amazing. In some cases, they'll fire people then they'll put some people back ... not all of them because a lot of people were let go." Statesman like, said no one.

Surely you don't want a third party to start firing essential nuclear safety workers in the UK. No one is that stupid, surely (says she, desperately).

hamstersarse · 19/02/2025 20:49

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/02/2025 20:43

Trump in my opinion is far right. The poster said the left do not understand the right. As this is a thread about Trump, I leaned even further to the right. I haven’t assumed anything, I have a History degree.

I have a history degree 🤣

You don’t know how funny this is in response to that post

lentilbake16 · 19/02/2025 20:51

Yes on a neighbouring site for starters.

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Bringmeahigherlove · 19/02/2025 20:53

hamstersarse · 19/02/2025 20:49

I have a history degree 🤣

You don’t know how funny this is in response to that post

Good one 🙄

Tomatotater · 19/02/2025 20:54

There were many on the Left 3 years ago who were saying exactly what Trump is saying now- that Ukraine shouldn't have talked about joining Nato and that it was their fault because of that. Now Trump is saying the same thing, it's beyond the pale. It was wrong 3 years ago when they said it too.

PlanetJanette · 19/02/2025 20:56

hamstersarse · 19/02/2025 20:23

I think he has got a point. The US has poured money into Ukraine with no security on that money, Europe has put in less and has security on the money.

If I was from the US, I would be happy but given I live in Europe I will now have to suck up what the Europeans should have been doing all along...if they really support Ukraine.

It is a true thing to say by Trump, that WHERE have the peace talks been so far from Europe?

Europe hasn’t put in less.

ThejoyofNC · 19/02/2025 20:58

PandoraSox · 19/02/2025 20:35

Can you expand on why you class Zelenskyy as a dictator?

You really don't have to be a trump supporter to realise that Zelensky is taking the piss.

Farreleye · 19/02/2025 20:59

Tomatotater · 19/02/2025 20:54

There were many on the Left 3 years ago who were saying exactly what Trump is saying now- that Ukraine shouldn't have talked about joining Nato and that it was their fault because of that. Now Trump is saying the same thing, it's beyond the pale. It was wrong 3 years ago when they said it too.

Ask yourself why it's so wrong they want to join NATO though. Why should Russia dictate what a sovereign nation can or can't do, surely it's more 'beyond the pale' that a country would threaten missile attacks & invasion if another would go against what is simply their wants? Even Putin in 2005 said: "we will respect their choice, because it is their sovereign right to decide their own defence policy, and this will not worsen relations between our countries" before changing their mind ffs.

Neemie · 19/02/2025 21:00

Trump has made European countries appear very weak and we could probably do with a bit of a wake up call. I do think he has been very cruel to Zelensky and Ukraine.

Putin seems to have managed to get America to negotiate without even having to have a cease fire. I think Putin is cleverer than Trump and, unlike the republican party, Putin doesn’t have to worry about elections or bad press back home.

I’m not a Trump fan so I don’t know how they are feeling. Marco Rubio wasn’t looking that chipper though.

PandoraSox · 19/02/2025 21:00

ThejoyofNC · 19/02/2025 20:58

You really don't have to be a trump supporter to realise that Zelensky is taking the piss.

In what way is he taking the piss?

TagSplashMaverick · 19/02/2025 21:00

skippy67 · 19/02/2025 17:21

Trump supporters don't think. They love a slogan, they love a rally, and they love their guy. But they don't think.

Very well put.

jannier · 19/02/2025 21:03

I can't get over the similarities to pre world war 2 unfortunately a lot of people don't know this part of history.

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