Trump fans, what are your thoughts now please?

[lentilbake16]

Just wondering.

Are you also glad about his views on how he can grab GC women "by the pussy" too?
And are you glad about his conviction for raping a woman? Obviously a great advocate for women everywhere...

I’m not a fan, he’s crackers and dangerous isn’t he.

There was a Rebublican senator on Trevor Phillips at one - Times radio, today who said that the Republican old guard were horrified by his position on Ukraine and that it was very likely that he would lose support in the coming weeks. Worth a listen.

There is no right or left, the right think there is, the left do too, but there's nothing like the old left , right, centre.

The media doesn't really understand this anymore.

Many Labour and Democrats are anti-immigration, anti pronouns, anti-intellectual .

Lots of Tories and Republicans are sympathetic to asylum seekers , against billionaire self interest and the massive rise in social in-equality.

People forget during the run up to Brexit, there was a 'Labour Leave' group led by pro-Brexit Labour MP's, life long Labour voters who voted in their millions for Leave, and then continued to vote for Labour and still do.

Trump is akin to Blair, or Maggie, a personality cult that blurs left or right, the most recent we've had was Boris , who on many things was more in tune with the intellectual centrist , arty wing of the Tory party , rather than the far right, loony end of Braverman and Co.

Yeah he’s always clear on who to sexually assault. And who to restrict reproductive healthcare to.

It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so fucking scary.

He is America's Boris Johnson. He will do to the Republican Party what Johnson did to the Tories.

Categorically NOT a fan, but read sn interesting point from Boris Johnson that Trump isn't trying to be historically accurate, he's trying to shock Europe into action...

(Re Ukraine I should say)

I think that’s underestimating him @TooBigForMyBoots . He’s getting into bed with Putin.

Pity they couldn’t have woken up before the election. This is exactly who Trump said he was. Bit late to be worried about it now.

Whilst the premise is good, for an org claiming how it's all about transparency they aren't being transparent about how they are deciding what to cut, what's actually waste etc. There is an unsavoury narrative that people critical of DOGE are against any type of audit and action, but that's not the case. Interestingly the website is full of typos- savings listen as x billion when it's y million; doesn't inspire much confidence in the accuracy does it.

I was going to say he's always been pretty open about his thoughts, ambitions and who his hero's are- none of this seems surprising.

Is he?

Obama deported more than Trump in their respective first terms.

He's talking the talk, but migrants get put on planes every day in the US, the tariff threats were just talk, Columbia and Canada haven't committed to anything that wasn't in the pipeline announced last year.

DODGE is cutting to the bone; Musk earns 8 Million a day in Gov contracts while trying to cut the pennies paid out in social security to the vulnerable
Smoke and fucking mirrors. It’s strange as the same people who say 'Trump is delivering' are the same people who dismiss anything announced by Labour.

@lentilbake16 I am GC but he is only this way so he can 'put women in their place' (usually a place of disadvantage).
On a broader levels, there are many more critical issues such as Ukraine and Gaza.
Let''s take ourselves back to the 80s (because those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it):

• The Northern Ireland conflict is Russia vs Ukraine. Trump chooses to speak to Sinn Fein (Russia) and exclude the UK (Ukraine)
• The Gaza conflict is the Falklands - Argentina vs UK. Trump thinks the Falklands will be a great place to set up a penguin viewing business and negotiates with Argentina on this basis. The UK are not invited to the table

Both of these are imperfect analogies due to power imbalances but can be considered by people in the UK to bring it home.

@skippy67 - no - to answer your question.
but - I am glad he’s signed the order saying there are only two sexes.

Yep and he’s cutting stuff indiscriminately that impacts the world, not just the US. For instance the US’s involvement in monitoring and assisting in Ebola outbreaks.

Ah, so you’re saying over 77million Americans who voted for him, ‘don’t think’? I supported Trump at the election, but find that his current take on the Ukraine - Russia situation is off. Ukraine were invaded, and bear absolutely no responsibility whatsoever for what’s been happening. Trump’s desperate to be the man who halts the war, and the only way that can happen is if he gives Putin what he wants, at the expense of Ukraine. I think he’s fallen for the mis-information given to him by Russia. But, I also don’t think Zellenssky is as heroic as he’s made out to be, and is a dictator in plain sight.

I think this proves the other posters point about about the left not understanding the right.

Trump has fans in the UK??

Mike Pence speaks. Hopefully the first of many.

In our house we're more sort of wondering what shenanigans Musk is up to tbh.

Which part do you think is incorrect?

I think he has got a point. The US has poured money into Ukraine with no security on that money, Europe has put in less and has security on the money.

If I was from the US, I would be happy but given I live in Europe I will now have to suck up what the Europeans should have been doing all along...if they really support Ukraine.

It is a true thing to say by Trump, that WHERE have the peace talks been so far from Europe?

All of it, you've just assumed stuff based on the larger far right characters. It would be like me summing up all the left as snowflakes. I'm quite centered but know a lot of people who describe themselves as right wing and a few who describe themselves as left wing. The ones on the right are not how you describe and tend to be more informed and optionated then the ones I know on the left ( who's views seem to change depending on what's trending on twitter that day)

Ukraine was forced to give up its nuclear defences in exchange for the US and U.K. protecting it. Just because Russia violated that agreement doesn’t mean everyone else should just rip it up too.