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Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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trapforsanta · 12/01/2025 09:02

It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

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Thewaitingseason · 12/01/2025 10:38

Rummly · 12/01/2025 10:24

Sorry, but that comment really does show signs of paranoia.

I don’t take anything Musk says as truer or more significant than anyone else’s posts. Why would people be under the spell of this supposed political Svengali?

Yes it’s not like he’s paying us to support him, and that’s assuming he would be immoral and buy support. We have our own minds and we can easily fact check anything said ? To be fair to him I think he’s bringing in some much needed scrutiny as the government have got away with too much behind close doors and bringing it out in the open is in the interests of all

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:39

lostinthememory · 12/01/2025 10:35

@Hoppingabout we know this though. There was an inquiry that produced upwards of 20 recommendations that the tories refused to implement.

Musk doesn't care about the children who were raped. He cares about gaining power.

There's been so much in the news about why the previous reports were inadequate I probably don't need to go through it here. But I suspect there are thousands of victims who need to be heard.and aren't. We have enquiries all the time..why not on mass rape?Keir Starmer normally loves an enquiry.so it looks like he's trying to cover something up. Fresh air is a great disinfectant.

lostinthememory · 12/01/2025 10:39

@Hoppingabout but it wasn't rational.

The investigation had not been completed. The attacker was a minor and therefore a judge had to authorise the release of his name. As soon as that was possible, it was done.

PermanentTemporary · 12/01/2025 10:40

Explains a lot. I couldn't understand why an adviser to the US president was tweeting about a Birmingham MP. Cummings is an intelligent shit and politics-torturer who can always find direct access to a nerve to inflict more pain. Musk wants to increase his own influence and likes playing with toys. British politics is Lego to him. We're not real people.

Just lost a wonderful colleague who's moved out of the country because why the fuck should he, his wife and his three daughters put up with him going into people's houses to be treated with suspicion y GB News watchers because he has a brown face.

Anyone attempting to say that AfD aren't far right can go and work for that Reform MP who assaulted his girlfriend. Or for Musk and his multiple baby mamas. These aren't people who value women.

OpheliaWasntMad · 12/01/2025 10:40

lostinthememory · 12/01/2025 10:35

@Hoppingabout we know this though. There was an inquiry that produced upwards of 20 recommendations that the tories refused to implement.

Musk doesn't care about the children who were raped. He cares about gaining power.

I know he has ulterior motives and his own agenda. I think most people are clever enough to know that.
I do think it’s worrying that he has so much power .
But on THIS occasion he is right to draw attention to this scandal. These child rape gangs still operate.
Im very suspicious of posters who label people “far right “ if they support Musk’s comments on THIS issue.

Sherbs12 · 12/01/2025 10:40

2025hello · 12/01/2025 10:24

Anyone else noticed a sudden upsurge in far right supporters on MN saying how wonderful Musk is?

@Hoppingabout the latest

Yes! There was someone on a thread yesterday praising Nick Griffin of the BNP.

We’re then also expected to explain and justify why far-right groups/parties are far-right.

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:41

lostinthememory · 12/01/2025 10:39

@Hoppingabout but it wasn't rational.

The investigation had not been completed. The attacker was a minor and therefore a judge had to authorise the release of his name. As soon as that was possible, it was done.

If you think it was a good policy and kept and will keep people safe then I can't argue with you. Although the victims of those attacked by those violent offenders and those upon their early release might not agree and might have preferred them to stay in prison over the FB posters.

AzurePanda · 12/01/2025 10:42

@GrammarTeacher Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking and Steven Pinker and hundreds of others also hung out with Jeffrey Epstein.

Bill Gates was a particular buddy, do you have the same concerns regarding his well documented involvement with UK governments?

OpheliaWasntMad · 12/01/2025 10:42

Sherbs12 · 12/01/2025 10:40

Yes! There was someone on a thread yesterday praising Nick Griffin of the BNP.

We’re then also expected to explain and justify why far-right groups/parties are far-right.

You don’t need to be “far right” to be appalled at the Rape and torture of children

Bromptotoo · 12/01/2025 10:43

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:36

Some of that is rational though. Starmer's reaction to the Southport murders was wrong particularly throwing violent offenders out of jail to replace them with people who posted on FB.

Tommy Robinson committed contempt of court and should be in prison.so I have no argument with that.

Is there a direct relationship between early release and finding space for a few dozen people convicted of offences in the Southport riots?

The prisons were full under the previous government. Mostly due to massive numbers on remand awaiting trial as the Crown Courts are logjammed.

The man who was Lord Chancellor under the previous administration knew he needed to do something. Early release is the only lever a politician can quickly pull to that end. He's been refreshingly honest in admitting he did nothing for political reasons.

I see no direct link. And if there was letting out people who were outside the criteria for early release is cock up rather than a conspiracy.

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:45

Sherbs12 · 12/01/2025 10:40

Yes! There was someone on a thread yesterday praising Nick Griffin of the BNP.

We’re then also expected to explain and justify why far-right groups/parties are far-right.

It's hard to know what to reply to someone who has turned their face so firmly against the victims that they prefer to distract people with accusations of not being "the right sort of messenger".

Sidebeforeself · 12/01/2025 10:45

I’m laughing at people on here frothing about Elon Musk spreading misinformation and then quoting the Daily Mail as their sources!

workingtowards · 12/01/2025 10:46

I think that the idea that Musk is somehow a maverick ‘good guy’, motivated by concern about the victims of child rape is very unlikely. He is quite happy to hang out with Trump, who was found liable for sexual abuse and was a major associate of a known child sex trafficker.

His motivation is clearly to be a disrupter to political systems. The fact that Cummings is involved makes this clearer.

OpheliaWasntMad · 12/01/2025 10:47

It is completely disgusting to shut down debate by accusing people of being racist / far right / BNP .
Wanting truth , transparency and justice for the victims of the grooming gangs does not mean I’m far right .
I know some BNP types will jump on this issue for their own agenda BUT that does mean we can all be tarnished as BNP

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:47

Bromptotoo · 12/01/2025 10:43

Is there a direct relationship between early release and finding space for a few dozen people convicted of offences in the Southport riots?

The prisons were full under the previous government. Mostly due to massive numbers on remand awaiting trial as the Crown Courts are logjammed.

The man who was Lord Chancellor under the previous administration knew he needed to do something. Early release is the only lever a politician can quickly pull to that end. He's been refreshingly honest in admitting he did nothing for political reasons.

I see no direct link. And if there was letting out people who were outside the criteria for early release is cock up rather than a conspiracy.

I see a link. The timing. People that post on FB should be in prison.Violent offenders can be let out early.

OpheliaWasntMad · 12/01/2025 10:48

workingtowards · 12/01/2025 10:46

I think that the idea that Musk is somehow a maverick ‘good guy’, motivated by concern about the victims of child rape is very unlikely. He is quite happy to hang out with Trump, who was found liable for sexual abuse and was a major associate of a known child sex trafficker.

His motivation is clearly to be a disrupter to political systems. The fact that Cummings is involved makes this clearer.

Everyone knows Musk has his own agenda.
No one is naive .
Im just pleased that his attention ( at the moment) is in a topic that needs attention.

ThePoshUns · 12/01/2025 10:49

Well said @Moonlightstars .
I am really concerned about Musk and the influence he has on world politics, I truly believe he is a megalomaniac and needs to be treated with far more caution than is being shown currently.

lostinthememory · 12/01/2025 10:49

workingtowards · 12/01/2025 10:46

I think that the idea that Musk is somehow a maverick ‘good guy’, motivated by concern about the victims of child rape is very unlikely. He is quite happy to hang out with Trump, who was found liable for sexual abuse and was a major associate of a known child sex trafficker.

His motivation is clearly to be a disrupter to political systems. The fact that Cummings is involved makes this clearer.

This is exactly it.

And for Farage et al to jump on it when they have a member of their own party sitting in parliament who has been convicted of domestic abuse.

They don't care about women. They only care about themselves

AzurePanda · 12/01/2025 10:49

@workingtowards imo the question of whether or not he is a “good guy” is irrelevant to the question of whether or not he should be expressing an opinion.

As far as I’m concerned, anyone, no matter who they are or what their intentions can say what they like subject to the laws of incitement, libel,
harassment etc.

Bromptotoo · 12/01/2025 10:50

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:47

I see a link. The timing. People that post on FB should be in prison.Violent offenders can be let out early.

I'm not sure what you mean.

I understand the words of course but facts?

The woman sent to gaol for FB posts lives in the same town as me. What was said was way beyond any reasonable claim to free speech.

OpheliaWasntMad · 12/01/2025 10:50

ThePoshUns · 12/01/2025 10:49

Well said @Moonlightstars .
I am really concerned about Musk and the influence he has on world politics, I truly believe he is a megalomaniac and needs to be treated with far more caution than is being shown currently.

You’d rather he didn’t question the way the grooming gangs were allowed to operate.

2025hello · 12/01/2025 10:50

dottiehens · 12/01/2025 10:36

I will get on with my day and leave the Labour sentinels doing their job. Will pop back later for some giggles.

Another one who really doesn't care about women and girls, just the laugh of a disruptive troll like Musk.

It's the entertainment of the far right. How much can we poke decent people for our entertainment. Soulless.

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 10:51

Bromptotoo · 12/01/2025 10:50

I'm not sure what you mean.

I understand the words of course but facts?

The woman sent to gaol for FB posts lives in the same town as me. What was said was way beyond any reasonable claim to free speech.

Violent people were let out of prison at the same time as FB posters (with a remarkably efficient justice system suddenly) were imprisoned. Of course there's a link. People aren't fools. It shows Keir Starmer's priorities very clearly.

Would you prefer to meet her or one of those violent offenders in a dark alley?

OpheliaWasntMad · 12/01/2025 10:53

2025hello · 12/01/2025 10:50

Another one who really doesn't care about women and girls, just the laugh of a disruptive troll like Musk.

It's the entertainment of the far right. How much can we poke decent people for our entertainment. Soulless.

“Far right” again 🙄
If you cared about these girls you wouldn’t be turning this into a political issue.

Abhannmor · 12/01/2025 10:54

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 09:11

Who is saying that? Are we blaming the messenger again rather than listening to the message?

Elon Musk has done this country a great service highlighting child grooming gangs. Just because Labour don't enjoy him pointing out their faults doesn't make him wrong. And Labour saw nothing wrong in interfering in US politics so they can't complain now.

As Ian Hislop said everyone has known about the grooming gangs . It was on the front page of The Times in 2014 ffs. But Elon seems to get all his info from conspiracy websites or goons like Cummings. The nutbag hasn't fucked Britain over enough when he was running the Johnson government and is coming back for more?