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Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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trapforsanta · 12/01/2025 09:02

It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

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OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:56

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 20:45

”There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more”

No one said this, so putting it in quote marks is a lie.

No @noblegiraffe - it’s not a lie because I did not attribute it to anyone. It was a paraphrase to save me searching for the actual quotes.
But since you’ve accused me of lying …
Here you go -
“Policing and social services have policies and procedures around this and have had for some time.I was interviewing child victims 15 year ago and locking up offenders also. It really isn't tolerated these days.Posters on this thread are desperate to stir up racial tension, which is just what Musk and his friends want.” @ThePoshUns

“, some people seem to be of the impression that nothing has happened as a result of previous inquires or that everyone is just completely oblivious to grooming gangs. I will say that child protection training over the last ten years (at least) has been obviouslyupdated and amended so that school staff are now trained every year on how to spot the signs of child sexual exploitation and what a widespread problem it is and how it's not just 'promiscuous children' and so on. The same goes for the grooming gangs that groom children for crime (county lines). It's a real feature of concern and discussion in schools.” @noblegiraffe

I can’t be bothered looking for any more exact quotes to evidence my points .
You’ve been patronising and dismissive throughout. Now you call me a liar .

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:04

Not sure how you got from “It's a real feature of concern and discussion in schools.” to “we don’t need to talk about this anymore”

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:12

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:04

Not sure how you got from “It's a real feature of concern and discussion in schools.” to “we don’t need to talk about this anymore”

I didn’t say I was quoting you in particular. It’s a paraphrase of yours and another poster’s comments. From page 12/13 of this thread.
You were continually trying to shut down the discussion about the grooming gangs and as part of that you were suggesting everything was much improved as far as you were concerned . School safeguarding you were particularly happy with. ( Although you ignored my point about the failure over Sara Sharif)

So - NO - I didn’t LIE . I paraphrased your position and other posters can check those pages to see if I have misrepresented you .

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:15

I would also add - I deliberately didn’t name you or the other poster . You’re not the only one who holds these sort of patronising and dismissive views . I was paraphrasing to sum up a general viewpoint that I’ve seen on here.
But you obviously recognised something about that anonymous quote because you quickly claimed it .

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:15

You have not paraphrased my position, because that is not my position. I can tell you that’s not my position and that you are misrepresenting me because I know better than you what my position is.

You’ve tried to tell me what I’m allowed to post on this thread (and outrageously suggested I don’t care about child abuse because I wanted to discuss the topic of the fucking thread) and now you’re trying to tell me what I think.

And you wonder why I’m being dismissive.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:16

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:15

You have not paraphrased my position, because that is not my position. I can tell you that’s not my position and that you are misrepresenting me because I know better than you what my position is.

You’ve tried to tell me what I’m allowed to post on this thread (and outrageously suggested I don’t care about child abuse because I wanted to discuss the topic of the fucking thread) and now you’re trying to tell me what I think.

And you wonder why I’m being dismissive.

I didn’t even put your name to that quote .
You managed to out yourself.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:19

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:16

I didn’t even put your name to that quote .
You managed to out yourself.

You literally put our names after each quote.

Are you well?

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:19

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:15

You have not paraphrased my position, because that is not my position. I can tell you that’s not my position and that you are misrepresenting me because I know better than you what my position is.

You’ve tried to tell me what I’m allowed to post on this thread (and outrageously suggested I don’t care about child abuse because I wanted to discuss the topic of the fucking thread) and now you’re trying to tell me what I think.

And you wonder why I’m being dismissive.

It’s no about you . Or your “position”.
I didn’t name you. I’m talking about a general complacent and dismissive attitude on this issue.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:21

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:19

It’s no about you . Or your “position”.
I didn’t name you. I’m talking about a general complacent and dismissive attitude on this issue.

”didn’t name you”

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OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:21

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:19

You literally put our names after each quote.

Are you well?

Yes - obviously 🙄
Because you accused me of lying- so I felt compelled to find the actual quote and name so I wouldn’t be accused again of lying.

Im quite well - thanks for asking -( you’re very good at this patronising thing aren’t you?)

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:23

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:21

”didn’t name you”

Oh for goodness sake ! You said I was lying . I’ve given you some evidence. I didn’t name you AT FIRST but then you accused me of lying.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:24

Anyway - I’m not going to engage any more. I’d rather this was about the topic in hand .

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:24

Right, so now we’ve established that it was me you were paraphrasing I can reiterate that you have misrepresented me.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:25

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:24

Right, so now we’ve established that it was me you were paraphrasing I can reiterate that you have misrepresented me.

I was also paraphrasing another poster …
And I think other posters can decide for themselves if you’ve been misrepresented.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:28

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:41

Absolutely right.
And I have friends with similar experiences.

Which is why I am SO massively pissed off by posters on here who keep saying it’s all been sorted .
“Clearly you know nothing about the improvements since Rotherham “
”There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more” 🙄

Never mind all the accusations of being racist / far right/ ignorant

Edited

For clarity - this is one of the posts I was referring to “ Policing and social services have policies and procedures around this and have had for some time.I was interviewing child victims 15 year ago and locking up offenders also. It really isn't tolerated these days.Posters on this thread are desperate to stir up racial tension, which is just what Musk and his friends want.”

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:29

Well that’s a head scratcher, who knows my position better, me, or some rando on the internet?

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:16

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:29

Well that’s a head scratcher, who knows my position better, me, or some rando on the internet?

You maybe need to word things more clearly. The earlier swearing and rude name calling is also a bit distracting from any point you might be trying to make (which we can't remember now). Just saying.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:22

I worded my post perfectly clearly. She decided to mix my post together with someone else’s post to try to say something I didn’t say.

There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more”

First bit is a paraphrase of what I said, the second bit isn’t.

So you see, it is a misrepresentation of my position. And you are allowed to swear on MN, so if you find that distracting, perhaps you could try something more at your level like Club Penguin.

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:26

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:22

I worded my post perfectly clearly. She decided to mix my post together with someone else’s post to try to say something I didn’t say.

There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more”

First bit is a paraphrase of what I said, the second bit isn’t.

So you see, it is a misrepresentation of my position. And you are allowed to swear on MN, so if you find that distracting, perhaps you could try something more at your level like Club Penguin.

I assumed you would reply with something constructive and see.. you did. Let yourself down at the end a little perhaps but otherwise not as agitated as usual which is good.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:30

Perhaps I have a right to be agitated when people are trying to tell me incorrectly what I think and telling me off for posting on the thread topic.

Perhaps you should reflect on whether that is rude and distracting.

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:31

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:30

Perhaps I have a right to be agitated when people are trying to tell me incorrectly what I think and telling me off for posting on the thread topic.

Perhaps you should reflect on whether that is rude and distracting.

I wouldn't get in a tizz about it. It seems to happen a lot.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:39

So you’re personally fine with having lies spread about you? I’ll make a note of that, thanks.

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:48

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:39

So you’re personally fine with having lies spread about you? I’ll make a note of that, thanks.

Oh don't get on your high horse. I've been called "far right" by name on this thread and as far as I'm aware that's not true. I always thought I was boringly centrist. Others on this thread apparently know better.

user243245346 · 13/01/2025 22:49

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 16:36

The mainstream media was afraid to report the grooming gangs for years and years. A documentary was postponed until after an election. It was covered up for years due to fears of being called racist or far right.

Given that we know all this, why do we need an inquiry to find it out?

Is that a bad joke? We know that the abuse of young girls by (primarily Pakistani Muslim) men was covered up for years and not even reported by the media because of fears of being seen as racist. Why would that mean we don't need an enquiry?

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 22:50

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 22:39

So you’re personally fine with having lies spread about you? I’ll make a note of that, thanks.

It wasn’t a lie @noblegiraffe

It was a paraphrase of the following conversation

We’ve been over this already .

noblegiraffe · Yesterday 21:59
I can't speak for other areas but given that schools have updated guidance, my assumption would be that other areas have too.
I don't know why you would assume otherwise.

ThePoshUns · Yesterday 22:16
You are right.
Policing and social services have policies and procedures around this and have had for some time.
I was interviewing child victims 15 year ago and locking up offenders also. It really isn't tolerated these days.
Posters on this thread are desperate to stir up racial tension, which is just what Musk and his friends want.