Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

He’s not ignoring it.

This week, Labour committed to implementing some of the recommendations of the Jay Review into child sexual exploitation.

The Jay Review was published in 2022 under the Conservative government, but its suggestions were not enacted by the relevant ministers.

Phillips is also setting up a victims' board that will sit in the Home Office and advise and give feedback on changes that need to be made to get the truth and justice for victims.

“This week, Labour committed to implementing some of the recommendations of the Jay Review into child sexual exploitation.”
Thanks to the attention Musk’s tweets have drawn to the issue.

I think Bill Clinton was also a particularly good buddy, hence the painting of lovely Bill lounging in a blue dress hung in Epstein’s home.

Trump was NEVER named in Epstein’s “ Lolita Express” flight manifest unlike certain other Democrat presidents listed 26 times. In fact, Trump fell out with Epstein years ago.

Do people really think if there was a scintilla of evidence tying Trump to Epstein’s crimes he wouldn’t have been prosecuted for it? C’mon.

@BIossomtoes

This is a quote this week from Professor Jay who led the inquiry regarding Musk's involvement:

"I am pleased that the subject matter and the inquiry recommendations are finally getting the attention they deserve but this is definitely not the way I would have chosen for it to happen, but it has had the effect of moving on the agenda."

So even Prof Jay recognises that Musk's involvement has pushed the matter up the political agenda so that recommendations are finally being implemented.

Do you disagree with her views?

@OpheliaWasntMad I read the link, thank you - I knew Julie Bindel had been involved with the victims for a long time, so it was interesting to hear her perspective. I think her reflection ‘Why weren’t they/we believed?’ really echoes. This isn’t whataboutery - I acknowledge that the grooming gangs have their own specific factors that need to be considered - but just the overriding significance that these types of crimes, the systemic failures and the enabling that work together against victims, happens time and time again. It’s horrendous.

I also think her comments on Starmer are quite telling: she doesn’t personally rate him as a politician, but she recognises the support and work he dedicated to crimes against women - in the area discussed, but also FGM.

I think, given the backgrounds of Starmer and Jess Phillips, their records show that they have both worked hard to support female victims of crime before it was about winning votes; Labour were also pushing the Tories when in power for action on The Jay Report - I don’t think you can say, with any real conviction, that the commitment to implement them is down to Musk’s tweets - media spotlight yes (although motivations highly questionable).

I'm not at all surprised to read this.

I went and checked the media (unlike some people who seem quite phobic of using a search engine 🙄) and it's true.

Cummings is like an STD that just won't go away. Unfortunately his type end up sliming their way into political discourse and poisoning the whole wretched mess.

@Sherbs12

"I don’t think you can say, with any real conviction, that the commitment to implement them is down to Musk’s tweets - media spotlight yes, although motivations highly questionable."

But Musk's tweets had the effect of bringing the matter into the media spotlight which in turn had the effect of pushing up the political agenda the implementation of the Jay inquiry recommendations.

In December 2024 the Government published the Child Wellbeing and Schools Bill which contained none of the recommendations of the Jay inquiry. However on the 7th January once the media spotlight was fully on this matter, Yvette Cooper committed to including one of the recommendations into this Bill.

Had it not been for the media spotlight (which was started by Musk's comments) I don't think this would have happened.

Re your last point I think the media spotlight is only shining brightly on this because of Musk’s tweets ( like him or loathe him I do think it’s good that he’s brought attention to this issue - much as I agree that he and Cummings have their own agenda)

I think we probably agree overall.
My main beef is with people who want to gloss over or ignore the issue. It’s happened too many times.

If you say so.

@BIossomtoes

"If you say so"

It's also the view of Prof Jay - but hey what does she know about this topic?

I’m not going to engage because people are not discussing in good faith here.
Also the discussion has been derailed. I’ll go back to my job which involved safeguarding teenagers.

I mean it certainly created a bandwagon for Badenoch to jump on, which is why she brought the amendment (totally lacking in any principles or awareness about her own government’s lack of action). Perhaps it has moved it up the political agenda for Labour - neither you nor I can say for certain. As I explained in my last post, given their track record, the implementation of the recommendations seem like they were highly likely to be coming from Labour. That they will be implemented - finally - is a good thing for everyone.

Either way, I don’t envy their position of having to work out priorities for the agenda, what with the blood, Windrush, Post Office scandals, etc. all to sort out having been kicked down the line by the previous government. Again, not whataboutery, but just the sheer scale of what they’re facing 6 months into government.

Regardles of what happens in parliament, Musk’s tweets still remain inflammatory, misinformed and riddled with defamation. If this is part of an agenda with Cummings to destabilise our government, as reports suggest, then we will have to wait and see. I see that Spain have today joined the growing list of countries condemning his interference. Whatever this is, it’s not merely about holding Labour to account, for those that still believe that’s what his purpose is.

I don't understand the outrage that Elon Musk has an opinion about something that you don't agree with.

I don't agree with everything he says but I do think he has done a good thing highlighting the grooming gangs

Fair enough.
But if we talking about posting in good faith - you told me “You clearly have no idea of the changes put in place in all services since Rotherham. “
And you still haven’t told me what all those changes were that you knew about and I “clearly had no idea” about.

By the way - my job also involves safeguarding young people. ( I’m not at work today otherwise I wouldn’t be on here )

"British politicians need to have an opinion on other politicians. They need to express those opinions and use their power to influence policy. We are not an isolated blob of a country. Politicians have been voted in to do this in part based on their views of how they will work with other countries.
Musk is not an elective representative he is the wealthiest man on the planet and a megalomaniac narcissist. He hasn't rose to fame on the back of his political knowledge.
He shouldn't be meddling with our politics. Cummings equally treats our politics and our country as a game. He has zero morals."

This seems crazy to me. Elon Musk will have a position in the incoming us administration. That's entirely irrelevant though. He can state his opinions like everyone else. You don't need to be elected to have an opinion!!

You are stating an opinion about him - who elected you?

The enthusiasm for censorship is really quite shocking. People of all kinds can and will say things you don't agree with. Get over it

"Seriously I don’t have the time or inclination to educate people who are gullible enough to think Musk is a good guy or highlighted the Pakistani gang issues."

It's simply a fact that Elon Musk did highlight the grooming gangs issue. Whether he is a good guy or not is irrelevant. He did highlight the grooming gangs which is a good thing especially for the victims.

@user243245346

"It's simply a fact that Elon Musk did highlight the grooming gangs issue. Whether he is a good guy or not is irrelevant. He did highlight the grooming gangs which is a good thing especially for the victims."

To my mind this summarises this thread in one paragraph.

To argue that we should dismiss the message because we don't like the messenger is exactly the sort of attitude that allowed this horrific CSA to go on for so long unchallenged.

If changes were put in place after Rotherham then have they been enough to jail all the rapists, to charge any and all officials that looked the other way or facilitated the abuse and none of this goes on any more? If so brilliant.

He can do as he likes, eh? No need for journalistic standards, a commitment to truth, or to have any idea what you're talking about?

It's true that it is unfortunately difficult to stop Musk without limiting freedom of speech. That doesn't change the fact that what he is doing is immoral, reckless and dangerous, and that he is only able to do it because he has stupid amounts of money.

Would you also say that a drunk on a street corner 'can do as he likes' if said drunk were to shout baseless accusations at passers-by? Unless you answer a quick 'yes' to that, you're just someone who kowtows to wealth.

Elon Musk didn't highlight the issue! Our racist media did this all in its own.
When a white man rapes a woman, the media don't report his ethnicity do they? Think about it.

The issue here is that nothing was done and instructions were issued not to charge offenders because of the risk of igniting racial tensions.

No such instruction was ever given.

https://fullfact.org/online/starmer-muslim-grooming-prosecution-crime/

The mainstream media was afraid to report the grooming gangs for years and years. A documentary was postponed until after an election. It was covered up for years due to fears of being called racist or far right.

It's utterly wrong to ignore child abuse and/or racially motivated crimes because the identity of the perpetrators and victims doesn't fit your narrative.

And clearly Elon Musk has highlighted the issue (obviously not the only one). That's just a fact.

Can you provide evidence for the assertion that it was covered up?

"He can do as he likes, eh? No need for journalistic standards, a commitment to truth, or to have any idea what you're talking about?"

Elon Musk is not a journalist. He is subject to the law same as everyone else. If anything he said is untrue he can be sued for defamation. And he is free to say things you don't agree with even if you don't like him.