Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

Andrew Norfolk reported on the front page of the Sunday Times in 2011 and regularly thereafter. The BBC reported it extensively in 2012. There was a three part drama series on BBC1 in 2017. If that was a cover up it wasn’t very successful.

Yep he can post an opinion. Plenty do here

That so many repeat and amplify his tweets is more their reaction

"Can you provide evidence for the assertion that it was covered up?"

There are multiple sources for this. Google it. It's one of the key issues. Eg.

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/tolerant-nation-time-shamed-grooming-gangs-prey-girls/

Clearly we do need an enquiry if you're asking questions like that

Andrew Norfolk was the only journalist who dared report it at that time and faced endless abuse and accusations of being far right and racist. Julie Bindel repeatedly tried to report it but was told it was too sensitive because the perpetrators were ethnic minorities.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/three-girls-drama-child-sexual-exploitation-rochdale-blackpool-pimping-a7739006.html

This cover up is a big part of why we need an enquiry.

It wasn’t covered up. It was in the mainstream media from 2011 onwards. 🙄

That article doesn't say what you think it does.

Isn’t the issue here less to do with the public and authorities knowing of the gangs’ crimes and more to do with a (possible) lack of detailed evidence and conclusion about the specifics of the causes and what might have hampered investigation and prosecution?

I’m absolutely not saying that those specifics haven’t been thoroughly assessed and published - because I just don’t know. But the fact that some brave journalists wrote about the gangs and their wickedness may not be the point.

Andrew Norfolk seems to disagree and resents Musk and others belatedly jumping on the bandwagon by his own account.

Sure, the insurrection would have happened if Trump hadn't been claiming that the election had been stolen. That sort of thing just happens all by itself.

I also know why I was being bombaded with pro-Trump propaganda in the run up to the US election and it's because Musk was posting it multiple times per day and has made it so that twitter shows you his own posts even if you don't follow him. Trump couldn't have paid for that reach.

I see Sarah Champion has now changed her mind and joined the calls for a specific national inquiry into the child rape scandal. I for one am grateful to Elon for his comments on the subject.

The mainstream media was afraid to report the grooming gangs for years and years. A documentary was postponed until after an election. It was covered up for years due to fears of being called racist or far right.

Given that we know all this, why do we need an inquiry to find it out?

Great the overgrown 4chan edgelords are now running the asylum, just what we need 🤔

Sarah Champion's requests look entirely reasonable.

They won't, however, satisfy those who want an inquiry that will blame Keir Starmer. Nor those who only want to blame Muslims.

@noblegiraffe

"Given that we know all this, why do we need an inquiry to find it out?"

Personally I would rather the focus is on implementing the 20 recommendations of Jay inquiry rather than what I see as a distraction (and cost) of a second inquiry.

However I imagine those calling for a second inquiry wish to focus on why it wasn't prevented at an earlier stage and why these young girls were not listened to. In addition bringing to book those that failed to do their jobs in preventing this abuse.

For example 8 police officers were identified for either misconduct or gross misconduct in relation to the Rochdale CSA but to date only one has been brought to book and that was only a reprimand.

However I imagine those calling for a second inquiry wish to focus on...

That's the thing, everyone thinks everyone is calling for the same thing when they are 'calling for an inquiry' and they aren't at all.

He cares marginally more about the victims of the Pakistani rape gangs than he does about the millions of children groomed worldwide over social media sites like X. He only cares about poor girls being abused by older men when he can have a pop at 'Left Wing' parties, and non white people. He doesn't care enough to agree to age verification on X, encouraging other platforms to do so, or publicising who was abusing poor, white girls trafficked to Epsteins island for example. Both things much closer to home for him, and where could be an effective force for good. He doesn't want to be that though.

@noblegiraffe

"Sarah Champion's requests look entirely reasonable."

It does indeed look entirely reasonable but sadly when Andy Burnham asked for the same he was accused on this thread of acting for his own political gain.

Unfortunately I doubt that her reasonable request will go very far with Keir Starmer which then begs the question "why".

Quite possibly because both he and Jess Phillips have promised to be guided by what the victims want and have publicly said that “Nothing is off the table”. A number of victims have said their immediate concern is implementation of the recommendations of the Jay inquiry.

Andy Burnham does have a reputation for that sort of thing.

However, on investigation, Wikipedia tells me 'Shortly after first being elected as Mayor in 2017, Burnham initiated a review of historical child sexual abuse allegations in Manchester and Rochdale, later expanding the scope of the investigation to Oldham. Part one of the review (focusing on Manchester) reported in 2020, part two (focusing on Oldham) reported in 2022, part three (focusing on Rochdale) reported in 2023 and part four (led by HMICFRS and covering the whole of Greater Manchester) is due to be published in Summer 2025.[74]'

so it seems he was speaking with experience and not just self-promotion.

The point was made that Musk can give his opinions, just like we do on forums like this; yes, he’s entitled to his opinion and free speech (within the laws of defamation), but there are also moderators on forums like this. How does that work if you own the entire platform? Who moderates Musk?

I think if there is another, even larger public inquiry to take place, then it has to be victim-centred from conception to end; the first consultations on this should be with the victims/survivors - not the politicians proposing what they think or plan (and certainly not Elon Musk). The Tory bandwagon amendment and Reform’s ‘rifle-shot’ approach are not the appropriate routes forward either, they only show how clueless both parties are on overseeing an inquiry such as this.

How does that work if you own the entire platform?

Well the owner decides, just as they do for mn. Within the law

Other than that it’s their call and people who contribute can decide if it’s for them or not.

I wonder whether Musk, Tommy Robinson etc are aware thst Sikh and Hindu girls were aldo victims of the Pakistani rape gangs? The reason the media stopped calling them ' Asian rape gangs' was because the Sikh community had raised concerns for years about Sikh girls being targeted raped, forcibly converted etc by the same groups of men and their families, who come from a very specific part of Pakistan. They protested about being lumped together as ' Asian gangs' when they themselves were victims. I would bet Musk and his acolytes couldn't care less about them.

And a lot of people are deciding it’s not for them, and leaving en masse. I saw that several German universities have taken that decision this week, The Guardian have, etc.
I guess then, you’re just left with an echo chamber. Each to their own.

Two Putin lovers in cahoots?

Who have thought it?

Absolutely 💯