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Never seen anything like the U.S. fury and panic

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MsAmerica · 15/11/2024 01:51

It's really been astonishing how in the last few days, people - mostly of the liberal Democratic party - are staggering with fury and panic over the latest from Trump. It reminds me of the awfulness of his first round, where every morning I would cringe to hear on the radio of a new outrage or scandal.

At present, Trump just nominated for Attorney General, the highest law enforcement office in the country, Matt Gaetz, who, among other crimes, has been under a cloud for sex-trafficking of minors. ("The investigation focused on his alleged involvement with a 17-year-old and whether he had paid for sex or paid for women to travel across state lines for sex, which would violate trafficking laws.")

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Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 02:56

RogueFemale · 19/11/2024 02:31

I'm way past the cringe, this time round I feel like a calm observer who is fairly sure how things are going to pan out (really quite badly) and interested to see how all the millions who voted for him deal with it when it works out not so great for them, e.g. getting deported, their kids dying from measles, no Mexicans to clean their toilets, etc.

I'm also curious to see how the US deals with Trump's ongoing mental decline in full view of the entire world. Like, is he going to do a little dance at the G7 Summit next year and/or ramble on about that wonderful man Hannibal Lecter and sharks?

Are you saying that Americans will feel the same way we do about this shambles of a Labour Government. I thought The Tories were bad, but Labour have taken it to new levels of catastrophe. They have only been in power for a few months. The latest shambles about The COTE is unbelievable. How has she not been sacked already. Any other job in the land, she would be gone at once.

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:41

SquirrelSoShiny · 15/11/2024 17:33

I can't even enjoy it. I have a friend in USA with life-threatening health issues. She's already in extreme difficulty paying her bills and is waiting and hoping she will qualify for disability payments. Yet she voted for Trump and defends him. Any negative mention of the orange buffoon is treated like sacrilege. Her life will be immeasurably worse now than before. I literally cannot understand her thinking.

Yep, there are tons of people like that, the last people who should ever vote for the GOP (even without Trump) yet they worship him. It's some kind of mass hysteria, almost like a mind virus.
MAGA is a cult.

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:45

I'm sick of hearing this drivel that the voters must have had a good reason and we should respect their choice. Total bullshit. The truth is that people are irrational, Trump voters most especially so. People do not always make decisions for good reasons, in fact I would argue they most often don't.

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:47

Rachel757677 · 17/11/2024 04:43

Leftists tend to be overly emotional and immature. Just let them cry it out. They'll be OK.....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Classic projection. Grow up, FFS.

Edingril · 19/11/2024 04:14

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:45

I'm sick of hearing this drivel that the voters must have had a good reason and we should respect their choice. Total bullshit. The truth is that people are irrational, Trump voters most especially so. People do not always make decisions for good reasons, in fact I would argue they most often don't.

Unless you live in America you don't have a choice but to accept it, what do you think you can actually do about it anyway?

RingoJuice · 19/11/2024 04:41

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:41

Yep, there are tons of people like that, the last people who should ever vote for the GOP (even without Trump) yet they worship him. It's some kind of mass hysteria, almost like a mind virus.
MAGA is a cult.

She probably had very good reasons for voting Trump, and you think you know better somehow?

You do not

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 04:48

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 02:56

Are you saying that Americans will feel the same way we do about this shambles of a Labour Government. I thought The Tories were bad, but Labour have taken it to new levels of catastrophe. They have only been in power for a few months. The latest shambles about The COTE is unbelievable. How has she not been sacked already. Any other job in the land, she would be gone at once.

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Lots of us think that a steaming pile of shit would still be better than the Tories, given the absolute mess they made of running the country. I’m not a Labour voter but they’re doing infinitely better than the Tories who are the very definition of a shambles.

And yet, even how horrendously bad the Tories were, I still think that Trump is infinitely worse on just about every level.

His appointments are just confirming my fears.

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 05:27

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:47

Classic projection. Grow up, FFS.

Erm...... Did you not read what I wrote. It is Leftists that tend to be immature. So it is you that needs to grow up. Your side lost, stop stamping your foot like a petulant child and come to terms with it. Although it is hilarious watching you all throw your toys out of your prams.

How does that saying go?

"If you vote Tory when you're young, you have no heart, but if you vote Labour when you're older, you have no brain". 🤣

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 05:31

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 04:48

Lots of us think that a steaming pile of shit would still be better than the Tories, given the absolute mess they made of running the country. I’m not a Labour voter but they’re doing infinitely better than the Tories who are the very definition of a shambles.

And yet, even how horrendously bad the Tories were, I still think that Trump is infinitely worse on just about every level.

His appointments are just confirming my fears.

Don't be delusional. This Labour government has had the worst start in history. They are totally out of their depth. They make the dreadful Tories look half decent.

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 05:37

XChrome · 19/11/2024 03:45

I'm sick of hearing this drivel that the voters must have had a good reason and we should respect their choice. Total bullshit. The truth is that people are irrational, Trump voters most especially so. People do not always make decisions for good reasons, in fact I would argue they most often don't.

The majority of people had a different opinion to you and therefore they are......... "Irrational". The sheer arrogance of that statement astounds me. What a toddler. 🤣

BiscottiToffee · 19/11/2024 05:52

OswaldCobblepot · 15/11/2024 18:45

Musk has connotations of a bond villain.

Agree, there's something sinister about him. I wouldn't put it past him to be eyeing up the top job himself.

Can he? He's South African 🇿🇦

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 06:02

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 05:31

Don't be delusional. This Labour government has had the worst start in history. They are totally out of their depth. They make the dreadful Tories look half decent.

Yeah, that’s just bollocks.

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 06:05

BiscottiToffee · 19/11/2024 05:52

Can he? He's South African 🇿🇦

Not at the moment but people are suggesting Trump might make it possible for him.

Personally I don’t think that’s remotely likely - I think Musk has a different game plan, one that will benefit the companies he runs. I think he wants to have the ears of those in power so things happen in the way that he wants. I’m not sure Musk is interested in being President.

Viviennemary · 19/11/2024 06:10

Biden is the one who has brought us closer to war with his decision regarding the supply of weapons to Ukraine. He won't have to deal with the consequences even if he was capable. But no. Let's all pile in and insult Trump. Same old.

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 06:13

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 06:02

Yeah, that’s just bollocks.

Ahhh bless...... It's sweet when someone ignores any grain of intellect they have so they can blindly support politicians. Labour are an unmitigated shambles. As you well know. 😜

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 06:16

Viviennemary · 19/11/2024 06:10

Biden is the one who has brought us closer to war with his decision regarding the supply of weapons to Ukraine. He won't have to deal with the consequences even if he was capable. But no. Let's all pile in and insult Trump. Same old.

I think Trump is a dangerous maniac, and the concern is warranted.

However, I have no idea what Biden is doing or what the sudden agreement for Ukraine to use US weapons is all about. It feels like terrible timing and reckless, and I completely share your concerns about what comes next.

I may despise Trump but I’m also very willing to admit when the Democrats act in a concerning way. Biased commentary and lack of fairness is how the US got into this mess.

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 06:19

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 06:13

Ahhh bless...... It's sweet when someone ignores any grain of intellect they have so they can blindly support politicians. Labour are an unmitigated shambles. As you well know. 😜

It’s almost as if you assume that everyone else behaves in the same way you do….

We don’t all share your lack of integrity when assessing political performance.

Viviennemary · 19/11/2024 07:39

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2024 06:16

I think Trump is a dangerous maniac, and the concern is warranted.

However, I have no idea what Biden is doing or what the sudden agreement for Ukraine to use US weapons is all about. It feels like terrible timing and reckless, and I completely share your concerns about what comes next.

I may despise Trump but I’m also very willing to admit when the Democrats act in a concerning way. Biased commentary and lack of fairness is how the US got into this mess.

I was alarmed when I heard Biden had agreed to allow US weapons. It's good you share my concern. But I don't think for a minute Biden decided on this alone. It seems strange to escalate the war and provoke Putin when a change of government in the US is imminent.

nauticant · 19/11/2024 12:39

One theory is that this will turn the war much hotter and thus harder to reach a compromise, for example by Trump.

There are other theories.

swimsong · 19/11/2024 14:59

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 05:27

Erm...... Did you not read what I wrote. It is Leftists that tend to be immature. So it is you that needs to grow up. Your side lost, stop stamping your foot like a petulant child and come to terms with it. Although it is hilarious watching you all throw your toys out of your prams.

How does that saying go?

"If you vote Tory when you're young, you have no heart, but if you vote Labour when you're older, you have no brain". 🤣

What a bastardisation of the original quote - which was about Republicans in France:

Jules Claretie said, “Celui qui n’est pas républicain à vingt ans fait douter de la générosité de son âme; mais celui qui, après trente ans, persévère, fait douter de la rectitude de son esprit.”

It's been adapted by various people since (often liberal versus conservative) - but none so bonkers as your risible attempt.

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 20:24

swimsong · 19/11/2024 14:59

What a bastardisation of the original quote - which was about Republicans in France:

Jules Claretie said, “Celui qui n’est pas républicain à vingt ans fait douter de la générosité de son âme; mais celui qui, après trente ans, persévère, fait douter de la rectitude de son esprit.”

It's been adapted by various people since (often liberal versus conservative) - but none so bonkers as your risible attempt.

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Triggered by the truth. 🤣🤣🤣

Lonelycrab · 19/11/2024 20:33

A pretty good marker as to how intelligent or mature a post actually is, is to look at the number of crying with laughter emojis they place at the end of their post.

Just saying, like.

Aria999 · 19/11/2024 20:34

Ahhh bless...... It's sweet when someone ignores any grain of intellect they have so they can blindly support politicians. Labour are an unmitigated shambles. As you well know. 😜

lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

There has definitely been an unmitigated shambles in power in Britain recently....

Aria999 · 19/11/2024 20:37

@Lonelycrab does it count if I put them in the middle?

XChrome · 19/11/2024 20:42

Rachel757677 · 19/11/2024 05:27

Erm...... Did you not read what I wrote. It is Leftists that tend to be immature. So it is you that needs to grow up. Your side lost, stop stamping your foot like a petulant child and come to terms with it. Although it is hilarious watching you all throw your toys out of your prams.

How does that saying go?

"If you vote Tory when you're young, you have no heart, but if you vote Labour when you're older, you have no brain". 🤣

I did indeed, darling. That's why I called it projection. I understand that you don't know what that means. It goes with the territory.

Neither Democrat not Republican is my side. It's just that the Republican side is, in all objectivity, significantly more immature, ignorant and vicious. It's not even close.

Incidentally, did you know that the repeated use of the laugh/cry emoji to try to insult people or laugh at your own inept "jokes" is a guaranteed sign of massive immaturity?
Only kids do that, and even they show more restraint with it than you.
It's infantile in the extreme.

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