Never seen anything like the U.S. fury and panic

[MsAmerica]

It's really been astonishing how in the last few days, people - mostly of the liberal Democratic party - are staggering with fury and panic over the latest from Trump. It reminds me of the awfulness of his first round, where every morning I would cringe to hear on the radio of a new outrage or scandal.

At present, Trump just nominated for Attorney General, the highest law enforcement office in the country, Matt Gaetz, who, among other crimes, has been under a cloud for sex-trafficking of minors. ("The investigation focused on his alleged involvement with a 17-year-old and whether he had paid for sex or paid for women to travel across state lines for sex, which would violate trafficking laws.")

They only need 51 votes. The 60 some-ood requirement was tossed some time ago.

Leftists tend to be overly emotional and immature. Just let them cry it out. They'll be OK.....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wasn't there people banging on when Trump won last time about how he'd start WW3 etc? I don't remember many wars or conflicts being started under his last term.

Likely the next 4 years will be like it is here, promises from the government but nothing much actually changing.

Hahaha have a look on social media. The reactions of some absolutely explain the shift of so many. People were over the extremely woke.

It's going to be a total shitshow. He is a wannabe dictator. First thing he's going to try is to get rid of the two term limit. He will try everything possible to stay.

Failing that, he'll line a puppet up with the intention of running things behind the scenes. How old is his son?

🙈

Really?

I pray to God that Labour are watching very fucking carefully.

💯. @SquirrelSoShiny

And the Latinos! 🦃🎄

Totally
Where is JB when we need him?

No it's thoroughly disturbing

Elon Musk and Donald Trump
two tom cats in a pillow case
they wont last!

Remind me again who had an hysterical tantrum and stormed the capitol?

Hmmm…so the main factor is millions wanting to be financially “better off” under a Trump administration, and overlooking his assholery in favour of economics. I was just listening to tax expert Dan Niedle explain on Robert Peston & Steph McGovern’s The Rest is Money podcast. He was explaining how the NI increase will affect us all negatively. I don’t doubt this—DH works in finance and his company will have a NI increase eual to 50% of last year’s profit. One of his friends works in finance at a university and their NI obligation is going up by £10 million per year, and the new tuition increases will bring in £5 million per year.

I don't think Trump beats Obama or Bill Clinton (at the time they won elections when they were popular) or Sanders in 2016 had he won the nomination. Or a cognitively functioning Joe Biden (I.e. 2020).

Hilary is not liked and the Clintons now are very much seen as the elites. Kamala was a very weak candidate which was why Biden clung on as long as he did.

Trump was able to position himself as more pro working class than the Dems. There's no way he could have done that with Obama or Sanders.

Thanks, @Cnon. I find the filibuster confusing. I’m reading up on it and you’re absolutely right. In 2013, then-majority leader Harry Reid and the Democrats voted to change it, with the support of President Obama:

”Under today's rule change, all executive branch and judicial nominees except to the Supreme Court can be confirmed with a simple up-or-down vote rather than the previously required 60-vote supermajority.”

But it’s still required for certain legislature, I believe?

I read something interesting this week that was new info to me. 1963 was the last election that the Democratic party won a majority of the white vote. They signed the Voting Rights Act into law in 1965 and that saw white people flock to the GOP. 🫤

Well, @dottiehens, I'm not sure where you have seen me posting against democracy, as I'm more likely to be posting again demagoguery, authoritarianism, and mendacity.
But in general, as to what's offered, Democrats tend to offer help with heath care, education, civil rights, women's rights, environmental issues, etc.
Republicans tend to offer easy access to guns, financial breaks for the wealthy, hostility toward minorities - and, these days, contempt for the rule of law and and traditional ideals.

Yes, @awayforxmas, Trump is indeed friends with Putin - to the extent that many people think there is something dark going on, that Putin has some kind of hold on him, like blackmail. He booted the Russia experts in the state department, publicly said he trusted Russian intelligence experts more than his own American ones, tried to stop the investigation, and keeps lyingly saying he was exonerated.

Funny, I was just reading an article about the expected end of the "bromance."

Actually, no, @KeepinOn, the majority of Americans did not elect Trump. Now, as before, Trump had about one-quarter of America voting for him. And a large part of that was apparently disaffected young men, many of whom normally didn't vote, dismayed at losing their "top dog" hopes due to black and women voters.

Well said, @FinallyHere. The public broadcast channel in the U.S. has in the last year or more quietly been running documentaries about Hitler and such, probably in the quiet hope that people would see the parallels.

This one was particularly good, The Dictator's Playbook.
https://www.pbs.org/show/dictators-playbook/

Actually, @SweetSixty, many are indeed stupid.
It may not be a sign of stupidity to vote for a felon-adulterer-predator, but it does show a certain contempt for both the law and for women.
But it is a sign of stupidity to vote for someone who is so vastly ignorant, who alienates our allies, who chooses paths that experts believe will backfire. Plus which, an astonishing number of Trumpers posting online seem to be unaware (or pretend to be unaware) of basic facts.

True. Trump fucks over everyone in the end.

I'm way past the cringe, this time round I feel like a calm observer who is fairly sure how things are going to pan out (really quite badly) and interested to see how all the millions who voted for him deal with it when it works out not so great for them, e.g. getting deported, their kids dying from measles, no Mexicans to clean their toilets, etc.

I'm also curious to see how the US deals with Trump's ongoing mental decline in full view of the entire world. Like, is he going to do a little dance at the G7 Summit next year and/or ramble on about that wonderful man Hannibal Lecter and sharks?