Never seen anything like the U.S. fury and panic

[MsAmerica]

It's really been astonishing how in the last few days, people - mostly of the liberal Democratic party - are staggering with fury and panic over the latest from Trump. It reminds me of the awfulness of his first round, where every morning I would cringe to hear on the radio of a new outrage or scandal.

At present, Trump just nominated for Attorney General, the highest law enforcement office in the country, Matt Gaetz, who, among other crimes, has been under a cloud for sex-trafficking of minors. ("The investigation focused on his alleged involvement with a 17-year-old and whether he had paid for sex or paid for women to travel across state lines for sex, which would violate trafficking laws.")

The American people have voted. They’ve made their bed and now they have to lie in it……
I feel bad for the people who didn’t vote for the fool that is Trump, but am looking forward to the shit show.

They won't achieve anything anyway. They probably hope the Dems had the Senate so they can blame them for achieving nothing.

Musk has connotations of a bond villain.

Agree, there's something sinister about him. I wouldn't put it past him to be eyeing up the top job himself.

I doubt that. He was born in South Africa and even if he was able to get Congress and the SC to somehow amend the constitution making him eligible he'd have to leave all his businesses behind in a trust. Which is why Trump has made him a consultant rather than an official job. He won't want to give up Tesla or Space X.

Dems can still ratify women's rights. Biden can publish the ERA any time he chooses.

https://www.lwv.org/take-action/president-must-immediately-publish-equal-rights-amendment

He won't do it. The dems have dangled women's rights to get their vote for years.

Left wing, right wing, same damned bird.

Well come on Trump! What's stopping you now? You got all that you wanted and more! You'll surely MAGA and the buck stops with you. 🙄

"corrupt orange manchild" - that should be Trump's what3words address wherever he goes.

The parallels with the '30s when National Socialists were originally voted in, in Germany on a populist wave fed by the terrible conditions post World War I are what I find concerning in this scenario.

The damage a ruthless ultimately weak man might cause to the constitution, while continuing by sleight of hand to keep the people who are suffering what realising the true cause of their suffering and delivering further tax cuts which continue to benefit the 'haves' and the expense of the 'have nots' who lack insight to see what is really happening

Having the most powerful nation on earth run by a dictator for the foreseeable frankly terrified me.

On a serious note, I despair and find it difficult and emotionally painful now to watch the news.

On a lighter note, in our home, we started to suggest improbable people for positions. . We have Count Dracula from sesame street for education, though I would prefer Big Bird. Laugh, it's the only thing we can do as we don't live in America. We sure as hell will be affected.

that perfectly demonstrates the cultist mindset. Jim Jones is small fry in that regard compared to Trump

Listening to his apologists on the news, I'd say that the underlying plan may well be to weaken the health sector and justify and justify weakening the population's access to it. Just not for themselves, obviously! (Remembering Trump and his Covid antivirals).

You think the shit show won't fall on us? It will

Pretty much this. Americans be stupid.

We have had our own shit show in the UK from 2016 to now so we can't look down our noses.

So much easier to call the majority of voters stupid isn't it. Feels good eh.

Why would people vote for this?

Same as over here in the austerity years. They think that they genuinely deserve their entitlement because they're decent hard workers, while everyone else is a scrounger, and that the incoming government will at long last punish the scroungers and they themselves will be left alone and given their due.

Good point@YankTank , although recess appointments are temporary, max. of one year (although what havoc could be wreaked in that time?)

I’m surprised how many presidents have made some recess appointments tbh-Bush, Clinton and Obama all did. It doesn’t seem particularly unusual.

My personal feeling is that Trump needs millions to implement his policies and if it’s a choice between discarding a Cabinet pick and Congress approving mega-millions, he’ll drop his Cabinet pick.

There are few things that get to me as much as those that take religion, and twist it for their own warped, deranged agenda.

If Jesus could stand next to this utter charlatan, he’d turn his back in disgust as he obviously hasn’t the first clue of the teachings in the bible; this is an awful human absolutely filled with aggression and hatred.

And now he’s in charge of the most powerful military force on the planet

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/15/trump-cabinet-pete-hegseth-defense

Not all can have been stupid.

But all were prepared to vote for a convicted felon and adulterer who said on camera that he grabbed women by the pussy and incited a riot which resulted in many deaths and threatened democracy.

So if not stupid, what does that make them?

Because even if I was short on alternatives I wouldn't vote for someone who fitted that bill - even if they professed to be the father of IVF amongst hundreds of other statements that can easily be proved to be outright lies.

But Trumps election wont just affect the yanks, it will have huge consequence for Europe.
... assuming he carries out his wish to pull NATO and stop support for Ukraine.

The comment "i'm looking forward to the shitshow" is typical of the madness that got the US here.

Even if you re in Alaska, his election is going to be very impactful.

Sometimes people are, what would you call the people who voted for Hitler in 1933?

Full of wisdom and insight?

Exactly. This is what I cannot wrap my head around….the teachings of Jesus are about kindness, selflessness, humility, generosity, honesty, and serving the most vulnerable—the foreigner, the homeless, the hungry, the sick.

What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to consider the convicted felon Donald Trump to be a man of God?!?!

But Trumps election wont just affect the yanks

It will also inspire every other lying, manipulative, bullying, misogynist racist with an agenda to up their game on the basis that if Trump gets away with it, so can they.

But that isn't how politics works in America. Its a two party system when it comes to presidential races. There is no third choice. And people weren't just voting for a president, there were lots of senate and HOR seats up for grabs, with all the impact that has on their own states and regions. It is complicated.

I despair at the black and white thinking that gets displayed when this topic comes up IRL as well as online. We in Britain don't have much insight on what it's like to live in a country the size of a continent, with states that act as semi-independent countries of their own, with counties inside those states that also have their own form of governance, with no viable alternatives between Democrats and Republicans. And no, being in the EU isn't the same.

As far as I'm concerned the Democratic party should be fucking ashamed. Ashamed of squandering over $1B on a candidacy that was cobbled together at the last minute with no due process, ashamed of themselves for calling people ignorant and bigots instead of representing the American people. I'm not excited about Trump in office, but this result is a resounding failure of the dems and not a win for republicans, imo.

Yep, people like Farage, interesting discussion Radio 4 recently on if/how Farage could become PM in 2029...

I'm not excited about Trump in office

A great many people are terrified at the prospect though. And rightly so; the mood is of vengeance, mass deportations and, if you read between the lines, violence against all those that do not swallow the maga kool aid. The writing is on the wall now. Dark times, historically dark times for the US but you’re “not excited”?!?

I guess if any of those things happen, it’ll the Dems fault too?