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Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/01/2023 02:09

To update the Equality Act to make clear that sex is biological sex, not sex as modified by a gender recognition certificate,
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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ScrollingLeaves · 25/01/2023 20:03

Meanwhile we should keep on signing the petition
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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ScrollingLeaves · 25/01/2023 23:53

To sign the petition to update the Equality Act to make clear that the characteristic ‘sex’ is biological sex

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 01:41

Last look before bed

Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
Rheia1983 · 26/01/2023 07:01

Bump

NorthernLights2023 · 26/01/2023 10:49

I don't think there is any consequence to ignoring the deadline, but it is also why I want it to get to 100k signatures - to force the debate out into the open.

We have done really well in the last few days. Even Yvette Cooper who allegedly has a trans-identified child is now having to speak against the disgrace of 'Isla' in a women's prison. I have mixed feelings about it.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 11:32

I am c&p this post from Cattenburg from page 40 of the other thread:

Cattenberg · Today 00:41
The government have responded to a rival petition, “Commit to not amending the Equality Act's definition of sex”:

“This Government believes in individual liberty. There are processes with appropriate checks to allow for those who wish to legally change their gender. Changes to the Equality Act are not necessary.

The Equality Act 2010 provides protection against discrimination, harassment and victimisation across a number of grounds, including sex. We are committed to upholding Britain’s long-standing record of protecting the rights of individuals against unlawful discrimination.

The Government is also committed to maintaining the safeguards that allow organisations to provide single-sex services. It is important that the principle of being able to operate spaces reserved for women and girls is maintained, in line with the Equality Act. Government is committed to tackling harassment and abusive behaviours by all individuals, and ensuring single-sex spaces are safe for those using them.

The Act makes it clear that providers have the right to restrict use of spaces on the basis of sex and gender reassignment where this is justified.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) have published guidance on the existing legislation which provides much needed clarity to those offering single-sex spaces.

Finally, this Government believes in the principle of individual liberty and in the humanity and dignity of every person. There are processes in place, with the right checks and balances, to allow for those who wish to legally change their gender to do so. We have listened to the responses in the Gender Recognition Act consultation and have taken steps to modernise the way that individuals can apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate as a result, reducing the cost and moving the process online. Everyone that decides to transition, deserves our respect, support and compassion.”

Cabinet Office

They seem to be saying the Equality Act is fine as it is.

We know that it needs to make clear that it needs to make clear that the protected characteristic “sex” is biological sex - or that counter petition would never have been launched.

To sign the petition to update the Equality Act to make clear that the characteristic
“sex” is biological sex,
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 12:51

To sign the petition to update the Equality Act to make clear that the characteristic
“sex” is biological sex,
⬇️
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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Leafstamp · 26/01/2023 14:26

Bump, it's slowing in momentum. As someone else has said the map is glowing red hot in Scotland - people there have had a taste of how thing can go if we do not uphold and strengthen rights based on sex as defined by biology rather than a piece of paper creating a legal fiction.

England & Wales need to get signing! petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Leafstamp · 26/01/2023 17:01

Bump again, please sign and have a think who else you can share it with/ask to sign.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 17:03

Leafstamp · Today 14:26*
Bump, it's slowing in momentum. As someone else has said the map is glowing red hot in Scotland - people there have had a taste of how thing can go if we do not uphold and strengthen rights based on sex as defined by biology rather than a piece of paper creating a legal fiction.

England & Wales need to get signing!

If people want certain sex based exceptions regarding safe, dignified spaces for women to be protected with confidence, then we need more clarity around the meaning of sex in the Equality Act.

To update the Equality Act to make clear that the characteristic ‘sex’ is biological sex,

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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Leafstamp · 26/01/2023 19:18

ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 17:03

Leafstamp · Today 14:26*
Bump, it's slowing in momentum. As someone else has said the map is glowing red hot in Scotland - people there have had a taste of how thing can go if we do not uphold and strengthen rights based on sex as defined by biology rather than a piece of paper creating a legal fiction.

England & Wales need to get signing!

If people want certain sex based exceptions regarding safe, dignified spaces for women to be protected with confidence, then we need more clarity around the meaning of sex in the Equality Act.

To update the Equality Act to make clear that the characteristic ‘sex’ is biological sex,

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Hear, hear!

Clarity around the meaning of words in law benefits everyone.

Leafstamp · 26/01/2023 19:20

Sign and share to make the law clearer fro everyone and to protect women’s rights to have ‘women’ not include anyone who was born male.

63 signatures needed to 3/4 the way there

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

ArabellaScott · 26/01/2023 21:00

So nearly at 75k!!

Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 21:04

Another??i can't do the maths

Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 21:08

Yes, only 30 to go and it will be 3/4 of the way to getting 100,000 signatures!

My DH did sign willingly yesterday and even offered that the petition page suggests writing to your MP.
🥳😘❤️💕🎉🎊

I just looked through the ‘active’ threads and was surprised that not one outside FWR had picked up on the Scottish rapist
in a women’s prisons.

No wonder the England, Wales and Northern Ireland map is so yellow.

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ArabellaScott · 26/01/2023 21:09

23 to go, beetle!

Hingey · 26/01/2023 21:20

I'm number 74,990 Grin

Hingey · 26/01/2023 21:22

Never clicked on a map on a petition before but this one is interesting. SNP perhaps biting off more than they can chew (and not for the first time).

P.s 4 to go

Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 21:27

Yay

Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 21:29

75 000

Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
Waitwhat23 · 26/01/2023 21:36

ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 21:08

Yes, only 30 to go and it will be 3/4 of the way to getting 100,000 signatures!

My DH did sign willingly yesterday and even offered that the petition page suggests writing to your MP.
🥳😘❤️💕🎉🎊

I just looked through the ‘active’ threads and was surprised that not one outside FWR had picked up on the Scottish rapist
in a women’s prisons.

No wonder the England, Wales and Northern Ireland map is so yellow.

That said, there have been a lot of new names on the FWR threads - I'm guessing people have decided to join us on the naughty step.

Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 21:40

Waitwhat23 · 26/01/2023 21:36

That said, there have been a lot of new names on the FWR threads - I'm guessing people have decided to join us on the naughty step.

We do seem to have been joined by a LOT of angry women. And 3, pissed off for entirely different reasons, men.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 21:47

Boiledbeetle· Today 21:29
75 000

At last! 🎉🥳👏🎊🎈

Waitwhat23 · Today 21:36
That said, there have been a lot of new names on the FWR threads - I'm guessing people have decided to join us on the naughty step

I wonder how many people roughly there are who at least sometimes go on those FWR threads?

Keep on signing, just keep on signing, we must keep signing,📣
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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ScrollingLeaves · 26/01/2023 21:57

I had just clicked on the petition page and saw this response following from the first 10,000 signatures.

The government is refusing to see the point that it needs the Equality act definition of sex to be re-defined/updated to specify it is biological.

Even recent on line dictionaries have been eroding the word sex to mean gender. Lady Haldane in Scotland made it as good as meaningless there.

Government responded
This response was given on 26 January 2023w
Under the Equality Act 2010, providers are already able to restrict the use of spaces/services on the basis of sex and/or gender reassignment where justified. Further clarification is not necessary.

Read the response in full
The Equality Act 2010 provides protection against discrimination, harassment and victimisation across a number of grounds, including sex. We are committed to upholding Britain’s long-standing record of protecting the rights of individuals against unlawful discrimination.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) have published guidance on the existing legislation which provides much needed clarity to those offering single-sex spaces. It does not change the legal position or the law.

As the guidance makes clear, it is entirely acceptable for providers of single-sex services to take account of the biological sex of their service users. Where it is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim, the Equality Act 2010 is clear that service providers can exclude, modify or limit access for transgender people, even where they have a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC). This includes where a service provider has concerns that the presence of individuals who are biologically male could prevent them from meeting their aims, such as in the example below, included in the guidance:

“A group counselling session is provided for female victims of sexual assault. The organisers do not allow trans women to attend as they judge that the clients who attend the group session are likely to be traumatised by the presence of a person who is biologically male.”

It is important that providers of single-sex services are clear that biological sex can be taken into consideration when providing services.

The Government is committed to maintaining the safeguards that allow organisations to provide single-sex spaces. It is important that the principle of being able to operate spaces reserved for women and girls is maintained. Government is committed to tackling harassment and abusive behaviours by all individuals, and ensuring single-sex spaces are safe for those using them.
Cabinet Office

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Cattenberg · 26/01/2023 21:57

The government has now responded. Not that encouraging, but they did mention single sex rape support groups.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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