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Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/01/2023 02:09

To update the Equality Act to make clear that sex is biological sex, not sex as modified by a gender recognition certificate,
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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OhamIreally · 21/01/2023 00:01

Signed

ScrollingLeaves · 21/01/2023 00:30

GhostCastle · Yesterday 22:26
Signed
👻🏰🎊

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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ScrollingLeaves · 21/01/2023 00:34

OhamIreally · Today 00:01
Signed
🥳

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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AtrociousCircumstance · 21/01/2023 00:48

Night bump 💚🤍💜

Waitwhat23 · 21/01/2023 01:07

Acqua · 19/01/2023 08:30

Just curious, have any husbands signed? My husband hasn't yet and I'm working on it. Perhaps I'm not presenting the material properly? I keep it very light hearted though. No heated debates. That wouldn't work with him. I joked last night that if he wanted a woman to share his bed with, he should protect in law what a woman was. He stopped and thought about that one! Any suggestions?

My husband is as GC as I am - he's well up on the debate and will send me things in the news which he's seen in case I've missed them. He came with me on my peaking journey and we've never had heated debates - I just mentioned news articles I'd seen or discussions I'd read fairly unemotionally and let him come to his own conclusions. Which was, most often, 'hang on, what?'.

And yes, he's signed.

Slothtoes · 21/01/2023 06:58

Husband/Wife/partner/friend/relative test is a good one to think about.

I sent a similar petition about GRA reform a few years back when there were fears of self-ID being put in by Theresa May’s government ….. sweet summer child that I was back then. I could never have imagined the Scottish government (any government!) rowing back on women’s and girl’s rights in this day and age, as they have done Sad

I remember i was a bit surprised that I didn’t hear anything from two female relatives:

one who works in a caring role professionally and has had some young transmen under their care.

one who has told me she has seen online abuse against their colleagues in their professional role when colleagues had spoken out against new workplace policies where the management were putting gender identity politics inappropriately into the fabric of the job.

…I’ll never know if they signed or not of course but the fact it wasn’t mentioned by them makes me wonder. Were they feeling ’mean’ about signing, because of feeling protective of the ‘most vulnerable’ group in society? and/or had had fears of professional repercussions for signing?

It can be hard to convince some women even of the misogyny in society (especially if they have been lucky and haven’t yet gone through some of the undeniable experiences like pregnancy and birth as a working woman). Some of us find sexism is just too big and painful to really face up to as a systemic problem, preferring to see it as an individual dickheads’ problem (I used to be like this!)

And also some people don’t realise that unlike other petitions, Parliament doesn’t share the petition signatories’ names. All signatories are publicly anonymous apart from the name of the one person who started the petition. It would be highly illegal for any personal info to get into the public domain. You can bet that security is pretty tight on the Parliamentary systems given the highly controversial petitions that they handle day in and day out.

I’ve gone back to having quiet conversations with individuals about my own concerns first, then sending them a petition link for the individual to consider. Apparently that’s worked well although we’ll never really know who signed, which is just as it should be. [Flowers] I’m just so grateful to everyone that has signed and to whoever started it.

Slothtoes · 21/01/2023 06:59
Flowers
Slothtoes · 21/01/2023 07:14

Women and girls’ rights are not secondary to men’s. It’s not a sacrifice that all women should ever be asked or told to make, for the benefit of all men. Let’s get past that historical shit now please.

Some women are personally happy to chuck away their own rights because of whatever luxury beliefs and protection/privilege they hold- they think they can ‘afford’ personally to do so without them or any female person they care about being harmed…but

You can’t give away your own rights without also giving away the rights of all the other girls and women who come after you. Many or most of them won’t have the same resources or beliefs as you. Don’t make their lives worse. You might also might change your mind when you have vulnerable elderly female relatives or daughters to think about but then it will be too late.

The need for sex-based legal protections is immutable, because human sex is immutable.

ScrollingLeaves · 21/01/2023 10:53

Slothtoes · Today 07:14

It’s all here and on many other threads
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4587106-learning-disabled-girls-women-must-accept-men-providing-intimate-care

All you say is so true.

Waitwhat23 · Today 01:07
Re your DH
And yes, he’s signed

Another beloved husband 😘🥰❤️

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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Rheia1983 · 21/01/2023 12:31

Bump

ScrollingLeaves · 21/01/2023 13:04

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

From an interesting article in The Times today, by Janice Turner, relevant to this petition through describing what has happened in Scotland.

We shouldn’t be complacent.

Besides, the Scottish government itself doesn’t see a gender recognition certificate (GRC) as “a bit of admin”. It argued in the Court of Session that a GRC makes a male person female in all circumstances, even the few, vital single-sex exemptions laid out in the Equality Act — and the judge Lady Haldane agreed. In Scotland now, legal sex always trumps biological sex.

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NorthernLights2023 · 21/01/2023 16:21

Not a husband but two of my male relatives have signed. I’m a lesbian though so there’s no husband to do the signing in my case

ScrollingLeaves · 21/01/2023 16:31

NorthernLights2023 · Today 16:21
Not a husband but two of my male relatives have signed. I’m a lesbian though so there’s no husband to do the signing in my case

Its very nice your male relatives can empathise with women enough, and see the potential problems enough to sign too.

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 17:57

Still needs quite a few more

Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
Leafstamp · 21/01/2023 22:29

72,919

73k by the morning would be good

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 21/01/2023 22:59

72,935

NorthernLights2023 · 22/01/2023 08:36

Yesterday, Kaukab Stewart MSP, Stewart McDonald MP, Kirsten Oswald MSP and Alison Thewliss MP posed next to a sign calling for women (particularly lesbians) to be executed

Sign the petition to oppose this naked misogyny: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Boiledbeetlelovesbeautifullybindedbundles · 22/01/2023 17:47

Just been for a quick look, still needs more signatures

Petition to Update the Equality Act - thread 2
ScrollingLeaves · 22/01/2023 21:38

73,303 signatures out of 100,000 needed

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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Rheia1983 · 22/01/2023 23:44

Bump

NorthernLights2023 · 23/01/2023 09:28

Over 73400 so far today.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2023 10:11

73,437 signatures so far,

100,000 signatures are needed.

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ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2023 14:19

Britain is becoming sick over the trans debate. Only facts can cure it

archive.ph/2023.01.23-005556/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/22/britain-becoming-sick-trans-debate-facts-can-cure/

Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2023 21:57

Britain is becoming sick over the trans debate. Only facts can cure it

archive.ph/2023.01.23-005556/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/22/britain-becoming-sick-trans-debate-facts-can-cure/
Petition:
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Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

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