Afficionados of How to talk so kids will listen and listen so kids will talk HELP please

[unknownrebelbang]

Ok, the thread's too long for me to something similar has been covered, but you seem quite impressed with it, so.......

DS2+3, 10 and 8, can sometimes be a pita at bedtime. (Sometimes aided and abetted by DS1).

They're loud and boisterous lads, and tbh most of the time they're only sitting talking, but they're soooo loud.

The problem is DH sometimes has vvv early starts and often goes to bed before them, and then is kept awake by their nattering.

What should we be saying to them to get them to show some consideration, be quieter, and ultimately go to blardy sleep?

I need positive vibes, please.

Tonight's the first night all three lads have been at home for a week.

They're all full of it (they've been on camp all weekend) but over-tired, and DS2 in particular is likely to be stroppy....

ok
me and 100 are here

Oh good.

You never know, he may well surprise me, but erm, I doubt it, lol.

unknown - remind them of the discussion and the agreed plan. Otherwise they'll have forgotten won't they?

Very serious response. I seem to really care about this situation.

And what with you and that lady with the crow problem, I'm finding mumsnet emotionally draining.

Lady with the crow???

They BANG against her windows. Is shocking.

oh no! Have missed that thread.

(I will have a chat with them again after tea).

tricky with the older ones as they may not go with this - i remember from the same authors the book 'siblings without rivalry' about writing signs - for example 'quiet time' or 'quiet talking' on their door or the wall. you could let them talk for a while then put the signs up?
or have a quiet night time competition with the winner getting a sticker or other incentive in the morning
or failing that take all the lightbulbs out upstairs
have 3 ds's and have had varied success with all of the above

How old are yours?

2, 4 and 7

DS2 sneaked into DS3's bedroom but did get straight into bed, and they were quiet.

I did move him out (he ended up in our bed because he's not feeing well) and they both went to sleep.

Am hoping he's just overtired rather than ill, especially as we go away for a few days tomorrow.

so sucess?

Is that a success or not unknown? Am unclear.

where is the main thread?

read the book when ds1 was younger and it really worked....but think we need to go back to it again and need to refresh my memory.....

ahundretimes will ahev to step into my shoes
am off to aropouerto

oh god she's away and I'm in charge and I don't know HOW to do a link popsycal. Should never have been promoted.

Maybe someone will turn up and tell us, otherwise we're off to the archives all evening trawling through, getting dusty and a little tetchy with one another because I went left at Relationships, but Parenting is actually on the right. . . .

ahundredtimes, you do make me lol. Have you recovered from the crows thread yet?

100 is it here you need help?

I will be back

here you go

To be honest Zog I haven't. I really thought it'd all be over this morning, but apparantly they didn't turn up. So she's still there, and tomorrow morning....
Also Dogsby has a lot to answer for because not only did she leave me in charge of complex parenting issues but she also insisted the crow lady get stickers fgs. As if that'll help.

First rule of MN: don't listen to Dogsby

I can't help it. Am in her power. But as she's away, well

Well, quite. While she's off in her Resort Casual wear, livin' La Vida Loca, you have the keys to the filing cabinet...