X Factor versus Rage Against the Machine

[purepurple]

So which one do you want to be Christmas number 1?
I have downloaded RATM.

I love RATM. Though I'm not too sure i can be bothered about what it Christmas no 1. As has been said by Flame, Rubberduck et al it doesn't really seem to matter any more.

God I miss those years of listening to Bruno Brookes to find out!!

I think 'a real music fan' is what someone considers themselves if they listen to music that isn't synthesised/mix/can't be done live.

Well more importantly I think it's not so much thinking "I'm a real music fan" but more thinking "they aren't a real music fan"

FWIW I'm a real music fan . I won't be downloading RATM (already have it) and I doubt very much I'll be aware what no.1 is, unless I happen across it in the news/conversation.

B x

ps Anyone know what is Bruno Brookes doing these days?

i love killing in the name of

i already have it though

and i wont be buying the xmas song either

4

I'm afraid I'm with UQD on this one. I would quite like something that isn't Joe McElderry to get Xmas Number One, but mainly because it's a rubbish song, and also because it would be quite funny, but the Christmas Number One has traditionally been a steaming pile of cr*p, so at least Joe will be following in a fine tradition in that respect.

I joined the Tim Buckley group last year on FB because I was annoyed that they'd ruined a very fine song, but this year I feel decidely meh about the whole thing.

I have downloaded RATM - it was 67p from play.com.
Probably about the same as a vote or two on the X factor, no?

Am I right in thinking all the contestants are just singers covering other people's songs? No singer-songwriters or bands?

I miss proper christmas songs with bells n stuff

They cover well-known songs because it is easier with a known song to hear if they are doing it "well", I suppose.

Probably easier to sort out rights too. One band on BGT - those girls with the dyed hair, I forget what they were called - were desperate to do their own material, but were told it would be a copyright nightmare.

Why are people always "afraid" they agree with me?

I like agreeing with you Tis rare though

I'm going to acquire RATM for the 2nd time in my life.

I did a bit of TEFL in the mid-90s. Staged a "jukebox jury" one day for my 15 year old German students and some rebel chose this. He was a bit put out that 1), I knew all the words, and 2), I thanked him for highlighting "fuck" for its linguistic interest value, being both a noun and a verb

GO RAGE!

UQD, it was an 'afraid' addressed at the OP for disagreeing politely, rather than an apology for agreeing with you. I find your opinions eminently sensible (except when I don't)

surely a protest would be using ^new6 material, not something they have dragged out of their wardrobe all dusty

Who is the protest aimed at?

If it's Simon Cowell then you picked the wrong song, he is connected to Epic as already mentioned below.

If it's Joe McElderry - just don't buy it. Is it so wrong for him to have the chance at a number one single after a) winning the talent competition he entered b) fulfilling his dream to be a recording artist and c) withstanding all the pressure and critism over the last 6 months? I'm not a fan of his and never was but he should be allowed to chase his dreams like the rest of us.

A protest has to be aimed at something in particular?! Arse!

Uh, how about... the world of manufactured music in general? Will that do?

I just can't see the point - I mean, if you have something to say, grab a guitar (/piano/backing band), write a song, and say it. But if all you have to say is 'I have a nice voice', why not just stick to karaoke night at the local pub?

Like art, sometimes it's just good to listen to something that sounds good, without it having to mean anything.

Disclaimer: I hate X-factor so am not supporting it in any way

I was 17 when the original RATM came out. The single was released on white vinyl and was a prized possession. I played it really loud (and then put the sound down during the sweary bit so as not to upset my mother).

I may well download it just to feel young again

have they actually made anything for years?

I don't think simon cowell and the x factor are solely resonsible for manufactured music!

I already have the Rage Against the Machine song on my ipod. Do I have to buy it again?

It's only 29p on Amazon so I'll do it.
My reason is that I think Simon Cowell feels the Christmas number one spot is reserved for whatever crap artist he puts out that year. I'd like to help remind him that it's not.

Buying it on Amazon doesn't count apparently, it has to be over 40p to count for the charts...

Update
Buying it on Amazon does count
Buying it this week does count
There is also a campaign to raise money for shelter too, running alongside it
www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas/

I'll be buying ratm. I've never downloaded anything before so this will be a good trial run as I was thinking about getting a mp3 player next year.

there are two versions on amazon - you need the more expensive one.

I have thought more about this whole thing.

I disagree that Joe deserves a #1 because he won a show tbh, imo the show is all about becoming a star and the second song is the one that counts. People buy the first song because of the show/christmas presents etc, tis the second one that shows if people actually like him. Did Leon even have a second song?

That said, I do feel mean about the whole thing, he's just a kid. Plus I feel a hypocrite. I am bleating on about xmas not having xmas songs any more, then downloading RATM. So, in defence of my beliefs I have instead downloaded this!

aha
that explains a lot
wondered why i heard killing in the name of on the hairdressers radio yesterday
did they leave the sweary bits in?
will get dh to download ratm!

He deserves the chance to be number one at least.