Three members of Lucy Letby hospital senior leadership team arrested.

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Bloody hell.

Not very articulate, I know.

Yeah, I kind of second that though. Didn't see this coming. Still, corporate manslaughter fits in these circumstances doesn't it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62ddkde7y5o

Three arrests in Letby hospital investigation

Three former senior staff at the hospital where nurse Lucy Letby murdered seven babies and attempted to kill seven others have been arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter.

Wow!

I'm actually really surprised at this.

I didn't really have hopes of accountability happening any time soon.

Those poor babies, and their poor families. ❤️ They should never have been at that hospital. 😥

Good!
It's been clear since the start she was being scapegoated . Like a pp I wasn't expecting such quick accountability but if charges stick then it restores a little bit of faith in the justice system.

Just before anyone starts wading in about shit NHS managers - I understand at least two of these senior managers are actually clinicians turned manager !

Do we know who they are?

I don’t think we’re allowed to say but it’s floating around on other forums

I'm not in the least bit surprised. Surprised perhaps that there have actually been arrrests, but not that senior people are culpable.

People raised concerns long before anything was done. Whether she was solely responsible or there were systemic failures leading to the deaths, leadership should have taken action much earlier.

Surprised perhaps that there have actually been arrrests, but not that senior people are culpable.

That's the surprising thing about it. Senior people generally manage to get themselves out of culpability.

There's obviously plenty of time for them still to do so.

I felt the same. If she's innocent I can't even begin to imagine her trauma.

Good . Anyone who has been following private eyes work in this will think "about time".

You seem to have posted the wrong story.

I don't see any suggestion from today's news coverage that Letby is 'off the hook'. More likely they are going after the managers who failed to stop her.

Good news, so many lies and false accusations in this case.

Exactly how I’m reading it as well

So is the charge relating to the management not acting soon enough to stop her, or is it saying that it was inherent failings in the hospital that led to baby deaths rather than LL’s malicious acts?

I don't think anyone's suggested she's off the hook.? It's exactly that, managers who should have stopped her.

I do strongly suspect there were systemic failures leading to the deaths, and people in high places who it suited to have one wicked woman held responsible, but that's not what this is.

It’s a case of they knew they had a problem with her but they failed to act to stop her.

I don't think the op is suggesting she's off the hook? The BBC report I read stated it doesn't mean anything for her conviction. Presumably they can still be negligent either way.

I do not think there is any indication at all that she did not do it.

I read it as they have arrested 3 people who should have stopped her doing it much, much earlier.

Yeah i do not think this is what the news is.

To quote the BBC-

"Cheshire Police said the case does not have any impact on Letby's 2023 convictions for murder and attempted murder.
Letby, 35, is serving 15 whole life prison sentences after targeting babies at the hospital's neonatal unit between June 2015 and June 2016.
Det Supt Paul Hughes said the corporate manslaughter element of the investigation focused on the senior leadership of the hospital and its decision-making, "to determine whether any criminality has taken place concerning the response to the increased levels of fatalities".
He said gross negligence manslaughter was a separate offence and "focuses on the grossly negligent action or inaction of individuals".

I know, she'll never be the same and there will always be people who believe she's guilty.

I'm also thinking about the families of babies involved - it must be torture whatever they believe.

But doctors lied and tried to blame her for moving breathing tubes, notes were changed, interventions were omitted in the notes, they lied under oath, guess we'll have to wait and see what the charges are against them. She may or may not be guilty, there's doubt raised that maybe there were no deliberate acts of harm or those poor babies were murdered.

The arrests are not related to her conviction or any of the testimony provided in court.

They are related to other issues of culpability. Which is likely to be some form of criminal negligence.