Archie Battersbee thread 5

[henryhihat]

New thread...

let's not pretend this is the discussion on ethics or medical issues or whatever it started off as.

No-one who has actually read this and previous threads could seriously claim that. Yes, there have been posts that have overstepped the mark, and they have been zapped. If you seriously say that what remains nowhere refers to medical, ethical or legal issues, you have major comprehension problems.

You have to wonder about the recent increased incidence of posters trying to censor the thread.

Erm ok dear, if you say so. Honestly - don't bother tagging me again, I'm leaving you to your bubble. No need for me to repeat my opinion.

It’s ok to no longer engage with a thread if it’s making you uncomfortable or irritating you.

the poster just said she reminds her of someone thats all hardly defamtory

Agree it has no relevance here, but unfortunately it isn't just "gossip" or "tililation".

The posts she is making currently are on facebook/tiktok - in the public domain. The historical claims about her are again from social media, so again in the public domain, screenshotted and timestamped.

I believe posters are being vague as a lot of it is posted on a website that is incredibly controversial, and don't want to encourage traffic.

let's not pretend this is the discussion on ethics or medical issues or whatever it started off as

There were actually some really informative and helpful posts earlier in the thread on medical issues and biology

Posters are being vague because mumsnet will delete the thread if we aren't.

There's a really serious issue with people thinking everyone else should agree with them.

If we can't express different opinions, then we'll never be challenged and never learn. We might change our minds, or we might learn some people are are unpleasant. Better than not knowing.

We can't police other peoples behaviour, not here on SM, not in real life, not even Hollie's.

The Facebook pages have gone quiet so I think they've ended up here looking for updates and are upset that the discussion isn't to their liking.

Archie can't be moved to hospice

'The Kiwi Farms site is always brutal when it gets its teeth into someone but their big thing is "receipts". There are some disturbing "receipts" taken from Dance's social media.'

Behind some of the language used on Kiwi Farms there are very thoughtful and insightful posts and posters who are genuinely upset that Archie's privacy and dignity have been violated. I never knew there existed a place where you could just come out and say what you're thinking. And as you say, they back up everything they're saying with screenshots and evidence.

The family want to appeal, surprise surprise.

When is this going to end?

Looks like the appeal to move to a hospice has been rejected.

twitter.com/JoshuaRozenberg/status/1555503148348973060?t=biGl2XdNW8HQi3Zs68ifgA&s=19

Court has ruled that Archie has to stay in hospital.

As expected. Dreadfully sad for Archies family, however his mum has behaved this is an unimaginably difficult time for them. I'm so sorry they're going through this.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/05/archie-battersbee-high-court-rejects-request-die-hospice?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

Hollie posted an update about Archie this morning that makes me think it will end naturally quite soon.

Interesting that getting another opinion has also been rejected.

All anyone can do is hope the end is peaceful for all and can start the much needed grieving process for Hollie.

And if he does pass by himself despite what she has said before the hopsital will face further accusation

Presumably they'll now appeal to 3 more courts and it will drag on and on.

Poor Archie, there is no dignity for him in all of this.

This circus needs to stop.
Archie would be horrified if he knew his mum had put pictures of him on the internet for the world to see.
How is that dignified?

I also think the press have misled the public. They are printing that he is in a coma. Surely these journalists have the same access to court documents? Or would that loose them the clicks?

His mum, I'm starting to loose sympathy with as she's putting her own needs before her sons. I'm sorry for the family, it's heartbreaking. But there comes a time that you have to face facts.

I wonder if the Appeal Court have already assembled a bench in anticipation of what will come next?

Miss Dance will still believe that everyone is wrong except her (and AA).

And if that happens, no doubt she'll claim he wasn't cared for properly and the hospital staff 'killed' him.

I really hope it does end soon for the poor child's sake.

I fear the hospital will face further accusations no matter what happens.