Germany :(

[nuttymango]

And now Germany - an axeman has attacked people on a train.
BBC breaking news - www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36827725

why aren't MN names being shown anymore?

I have German relatives, "alle weg da" does NOT sound similar to "allah akbar"

ah the usernames are back..must be just my pc

That Reddit thread explains my unasked question of where a suspect list would come from.

No, Bonnie, it happens a lot with the usernames. They're there, but in the same colour as the background. For some reason the stylesheets aren't always loading.

Have a look at the Reddit thread I linked re what's happening in Munich.

Bonnie, it does when you have confirmation bias.

Bonnie

Well my German DH says it does sound similar!

I guess people expect to hear particular things when they are in a terrorist attack.

But who knows what is going on? There's very little confirmed information right now.

Yes it does, and what does having relatives got to do with it?

Beyond where does it come from

On the video posted on the thread they definitely said alle weg da. Also if you look on Twitter the videos are still up and one of the shooters sounds native German and is white.

Totally understandable in the current climate that anyone would assume it was ISIS

what does having relatives got to do with it? - I kind of wondered. Reminds me of a phase MN went through, when posters were delivering medical opinions based on their DHs being doctors

Osmosis.

"Also if you look on Twitter the videos are still up and one of the shooters sounds native German and is white."

The suggestion was that he is German-born of Turkish ancestry.

because they can translate what is being said? [hmmm]

and some of them live in Munich? (but are safe)

its not a f*cking competition as to who hears what, I simply repeated what they heard.

People are dead, and people on here are arguing over who heard right FFS

It's implied that part of the shouting is re failed schooling. Results are not long out, and if that weirdo in school seemed to have nazi sympathies, there's a whole school year that potentially knows about it when they flip.

If they are translating then they can't be of help with what's been said.
You need an interpreter for that.

Some of us can manage that without any help, thank you very much.

of any help.

oh and I forgot an

No point-scoring about the words, we're all just trying to figure it out. I speak German so was able to pick up what the police said, but if I didn't, I could easily have thought it was something else, especially considering the depressing similarities between recent attacks.

The second video in which the police yell "Alle weg da!" was taken in a completely different location (right in the city centre on Kaufinger Strasse, one of the main shopping streets) to where the McDonalds shooting happened (opposite a mall about a 20 minute drive from the city centre). So while we don't know if the Lauretta woman is a reliable witness, the second video definitely has nothing to do with whatever she may have heard.

It seems the ninth victim is believed to be the shooter, and that it was only ever the one, neither Islamist nor far right. Takes a while to find that out though, and from my unspecialised viewpoint I think lockdown was utterly the right thing to do. I expect to see a lot of people in the morning complaining about it though, as they always tend to do with hindsight!

News conference at 1am

Police confirmed a German Iranian.

Completely baffling. The police are saying that his motive was unclear. Now he has killed himself I expect some things will never be known. It appears he was a dual national so I'm guessing mixed parentage. He does appear to have acted alone and they don't appear to be looking for anyone else. But the fact remains that 9 people including him are now dead, others injured and the whole of one German city and indeed the country terrified about what could happen next. This is beginning to feel like the new reality, I'm afraid.

Also, Iranians are Shias and enemies of ISIS so no straightforward motive there either.

There are Iranian Sunnis.