Mass sexual assaults in Cologne on New Years Eve Part II

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Just in case people want to continue discussing this.

Don't know who the left represent, according to the radio this morning, Labour cabinet mostly from Islington, none from areAs such as the North East.

I was wondering why it's not in Discussion of the Day as well

It is certainly entertaining to watch educated women of the left-wing media tying themselves in knots to grapple with this clash between their right-on values and their feminism. That article by Deborah Orr is a particularly impressive example.

So depressing that women with a voice are too afraid of offending men of colour to use it.

Dogstrummer that's appalling. A Labour party meeting with segregated seating...Where was it?

Free speech is a concept to some people.

By the way, the old thread is still in 'In the news on Mumsnet Talk'. Can we get hold HQ to ask for the link to take anyone to this thread (or, by the time it happens, to the next one?)

dog that picture irritated me at the time. Not just the segregation but there are fewer seats for women and they seem to shoved to the side -the main table seems to be in front of the men. I see that and I feel like going and sitting right in the middle of all the men. The fact that none of the women present did I find even more worrying..
(but then as an older teen I went to a club (north west working men's type of club) where women weren't allowed 'on the snooker tables' - I think a friend will still have the photo of me lying on one of the tables..prior to me playing snooker on one )

I've asked in Site Stuff why it's not in the Duscussion of the Day list.

I've just emailed my MP - Thangham Debonnaire in Bristol West. I'll let you know what she comes back with.

Ok. Some clear thinking requested.....

I'm still pissed off with the LBC James O'Brien programme and his proposal that the protests re the Cologne attacks are inherently racist, because women are attacked and raped every day. He quoted 12 rapes an hour (I think but ?) Anyway, while being v right on and condemning any attacks on women, he was also saying that to complain about it was hypocritical as it happens every day. Plus, he argued that many people defended the Ched Evans case and that these people are the same people who are decrying immigrants on NYE(according to his twitter search 'research'), but IMO anyone who defended Ched Evans is a misogynist bastard anyway, regardless of gender.

Anyway, I think this argument is flawed. Are women not allowed to complain about women being assaulted by large groups of brown men because white men attack us every day, albeit in private?

It doesn't even "trend."

My MP is a useless Labour parasite, so I don't think it'll do any good emailing her. My son wrote to her once and she didn't even bother replying.

Wow to James O'Brien. Nasty slur.

I find it quite easy to condemn Evans et al.

Not racist to complain.

White rapists = scum sucking bottom feeders
Brown rapists = scum sucking bottom feeders

Spot the difference.

There isn't one

That's the party line on the left then I guess.

This is an interesting article by Der Spiegel, translated into English. Has some interesting eyewitness accounts.

Why isn't this trending on Mumsnet? It's been one of the most active threads for the past few days.

And the old thread on this is listed at the bottom of 5 stories under 'In the news': it should be the top one, going on activity.

Polenta, so we're not supposed to complain because sexual assault is a commonplace? Eh? Anyway, this was unusual given that is seems to have been co ordinated and en masse, and part of a campaign? I don't know.

Idiotic.

Without meaning to sound err, racist, some people in the media are really showing their true colours eh?

Wow, never heard of James o'Brien or LBC before. Don't think I have been missing much!

Mama I've asked in Site Stuff section. Come over the complain - anybody who wants to

An organised sex attack against over a hundred women by a thousand men during a traditional celebration in public is hardly "common place." What goes on in Mr O'Brien's world?

James Obrien also presents Newsnight sometimes these days.

So that's the only place I had come across him.

hidden I wonder if yours is the same as mine!

Lumela thanks so much for that - super-fast and super-impressive

There was a thread about that segregated Labour meeting, but the Corbyn/SWP posters insisted that it wasn't segregated but that men and women had chosen separatetly, and that the women probably appreciated the chance to be able to sit away from their husbands

He presents Newsnight? I thought he was a loudmouth numpty. Why have they got him presenting that?

(I don't watch tv)