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Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

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claig · 10/12/2014 17:51

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

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WetAugust · 12/12/2014 17:37

oh I do hope Putin is planning the downfall of the EU in true SPECTRE style. Wonder if he has a white Persian cat tooGrin. I would worship him forever and keep a poster of his semi clad Action Man pursuits on my bedroom wall!

meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, 5 West Norfolk councillors have just defected from Con to UKIP. they must have enjoyed WT last night!

The blue haired super-loon on last nights programme is ex UAF, SWP, Unite nutter.

Wheeler would defect if Boris led the Tories? Boris will never never lead the Tories. The party would implode before they would permit that to happen. More chance of Wheeler setting Bozo up with his own party.

Anyway, we now have lots of dosh from Dirty D end and Paul Sykes is still on board. I think UKIP should tap up Dyson for a few bob as he is of the anti-EU persuasion.

claig · 12/12/2014 17:39

No, it's very interesting, because I think it probably shows how desperate he is to remain in power and looking younger helps.

'digressing from Serious Political Discussion'

we can always return to the subject of the People's Army and the UK's most serious political figure, Nigel Farage.

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claig · 12/12/2014 17:44

'5 West Norfolk councillors have just defected from Con to UKIP'

Every week we win over more councillors. Soon lots of rich backers will realise that we are the future and will start backing us. I still think that the Tories are finished over the medium term. They don't have the people behind them, who actually likes them? and enthusiastic people and increasingly enthusiastic young people are joining the People's Army.

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claig · 12/12/2014 17:51

'Putin is planning the downfall of the EU'

Putin shut down the South Stream oil pipeline plans a week or so ago which was supposed to go through Bulgaria. Bulgaria is not in the EU yet, but the EU told them not to accept the pipeline, because the plan is to stop Russia earning money supplying oil, and Putin has given up waiting and has switched the pipeline to Turkey instead, which is not in the EU.

A few days ago, Cameron flew to Turkey and reiterated that he wants Turkey in the EU. Maybe they are both trying to woo Turkey.

Putin said something like it is not worth talking to some EU countries because they are not sovereign, he might as well speak to their masters.

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MonstrousRatbag · 12/12/2014 17:55

Putin always carefully ignores the fact that many countries were genuinely enthusiastic about the EU, at grassroots level. Well, before they actually joined at any rate. The shine often comes off it a bit afterwards!

Ditto joining NATO. If you are Poland, joining NATO is a no-brainer. Of course you want to join NATO. Western Europe is hardly having to spend a fortune twisting people's arms on these issues.

claig · 12/12/2014 17:59

Yes, MonstrousRatbag, but it is looking increasingly dangerous between the EU and Russia. Ukraine is effectively nearly already a proxy war. Sanctions and currency collapses are bad for good relations. If the West succeeds in toppling Putin, then there probably won't be war, but if they don't then the future is dangerous, and I wouldn't want to be living anywhere near Russia.

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MonstrousRatbag · 12/12/2014 18:04

Do they want to topple Putin? I'm not at all sure anyone does. It's Saddam syndrome-he is awful, but the next guy (or heaven forbid, no next guy, just chaos) will be worse.

claig · 12/12/2014 18:09

'Do they want to topple Putin?'

Absolutely, there is no doubt about it and Putin knows it. This whole oil collapse has been engineered with the help of the Saudis, they want to break Russia and give them their own Maidan revolt to topple Putin and put one of their puppets in charge of Russia so that they can grab the resources, oil and gas etc.

Russia made an oil deal with China and now have sent the pipeline to Turkey. We don't know Putin's next move but this is a serious battle and Ukraine is a major part of it.

They are telling us he is awful and like Hitler etc, but that is just part of preparing the public for what may come. No one is mucking around, this is very serious.

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claig · 12/12/2014 18:13

They are hoping that the oligarchs will topple Putin themselves. We don't really know how strong Putin is and how much control he has. Either Putin rolls over and gives up and is toppled or they will keep squeezing him more and more. There is no way this will stop. That is why this is bad news for stability and good relations.

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claig · 12/12/2014 18:17

And then we come back to Britain's greatest statesman, the independent, sovereign anti-EU elite leader of the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage who said

"the EU has blood on its hands over Ukraine"

Puppets shouted him down, they booed and hissed, but he was only telling the truth as he always does.

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claig · 12/12/2014 18:23

Farage has said for 10 years, do not provoke Russia, but they never listen to Farage, and we are set for bad relations with Russia unless Putin rolls over or is ousted in a Ukrainian Maidan-like Western backed coup

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claig · 12/12/2014 18:33

Putin is right that lots of EU countries are no longer sovereign, they are not in charge of their own affairs. The decisions about wars and about relations with Russia are made way above their heads. War is nearly always about money, power and grabbing resources. If there is a war, it will be billionaires who decided we had to do it and as ever ordinary people will suffer.

It is all very sad but that is how the world works. It's all about power, who has got it and who wants it.

That is why it is so important to be independent and sovereign so that you can make the decision to do what is best for your own country and people and not be controlled by a supranational EU elite.

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claig · 12/12/2014 18:57

Cameron on Turkey

"I'd welcome Turkey into the EU, says PM: Cameron says it remains 'long-standing goal' for country to join despite his drive to reduce net migration"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2867835/I-d-welcome-Turkey-EU-says-PM-Cameron-says-remains-long-standing-goal-country-join-despite-drive-reduce-net-migration.html

Marine Le Pen on Turkey

"France's Marine Le Pen, whose party triumphed in recent European Parliament (EP) elections, has said that the far-right Front National will stand against Turkey's European Union accession process and that the country's membership should be vetoed.

Le Pen's party, garnering 25 percent, was among the Euroskeptic and far-right parties to make big gains in the EP elections, which will have far-reaching effects on European policy in the coming years.

“As a first step, we want the cancellation of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership [TTIP] between the US and EU as soon as possible. Secondly, we want the veto of Turkey's membership [bid] immediately. Our third task is related to French issues,” Le Pen told broadcaster BFM TV on Monday."

www.todayszaman.com/national_frances-le-pen-says-turkeys-eu-bid-should-be-vetoed_348898.html

They have to try and stop Marine Le Pen, because if she gets into power the EU could quite easily collapse and she is sympathetic to Russia over Ukraine.

If there is war between the EU and Russia then the EU might collapse as well.

So it is all desperate for the billionaires either way.

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WetAugust · 12/12/2014 19:11

UKIP also gained a local councillor in Lincolnshire last night - by a long chalk

I find it very disturbing when I read that the EU is interfereing in Greece' s general election and telling the Gredks to ensure they fleck the ex-EU Commissioner as President. This should tell us that the EU is much much more than a trading block.

And today Junckers, the EU President, told Cameron to accept unlimited immigration into the EU

It absolutely beggars believe that this once proud country is allowing itself to be dictated to by the unelected ex-PM of fucking Luxembourg. We've got bigger local authorities than fucking Luxembourg

As yOu can see dear readers, it makes me very crossSmile

But at least they are rioting every Monday night in Germany against the EU, not the BBC will ever show that. Oh no, instead of serious politics the BBC give us Rusty Rockets the village idiot that some even dafter people actually find funny?

WetAugust · 12/12/2014 19:14

Claig. If there was war between the EU and Russia. The whole fucking world would collapse!

Think about it.

Three countries with nuclear arms and neither side will accept defeat. It's called MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction and in enacting that policy we take out the rest of the world in the process.

It ain't gonna happen..

claig · 12/12/2014 19:19

"This should tell us that the EU is much much more than a trading block.

And today Junckers, the EU President, told Cameron to accept unlimited immigration into the EU"

I hadn't heard about that. I wonder what Cameron will do, will he have to ask Merkel what he is allowed to do?

"It absolutely beggars believe that this once proud country is allowing itself to be dictated to by the unelected ex-PM of fucking Luxembourg"

Absolitely, it makes you wonder who is really in charge and what is really going on.

'the BBC give us Rusty Rockets the village idiot'

Yes, I have long thought that Rusty Rockets, Russell Brand, is the Establishment's Useful Idiot and they desperately want him to stop Farage giving us sovereignty and independence from the EU, Juncker and all the rest.

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claig · 12/12/2014 19:28

'It ain't gonna happen..'

I wish I could be so sure.

"Russia and Nato headed for nuclear war after Putin brags he could take Kiev

Former Polish president Lech Walesa says Vladimir Putin's boast that he "could take Kiev in two weeks" could lead to nuclear war"

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-nato-headed-nuclear-war-4154615

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claig · 12/12/2014 19:32

The Russians said the quote was taken out of context, and they are probably right, but the rhetoric of Walesa is to ramp it up, just like they ramp it up by calling Putin Hitler.

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claig · 12/12/2014 19:35

Farage has described Neil Hamilton as "a divisive figure".

Farage is in the thick of it taking big donors on. He doesn't lack courage. Amazing stuff.

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Hakluyt · 12/12/2014 20:28

"To check the veracity, my first point of call was where I always turn to when looking for the truth, the Daily Mail, and lo and behold, it's in there"

Grin
Hakluyt · 12/12/2014 20:34

I think that's taking pride in anti intellectualism a bit far............

claig · 12/12/2014 20:39

I love my Daily Mail. I hope they knight Paul Dacre, he is the best, after Farage and Winston McKenzie, of course Grin

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Isitmebut · 12/12/2014 23:36

WetAugust & Claig .... you two write page after page of complete and utter bollocks.

Is the free movement of citizens to live and work within the EU a central pillar/policy that it appears the majority of countries wants to keep...YES.

So why is Junckers reminding Cameron of what the UK signed up to, without a referendum, a Cameron issue - other than if a Cameron majority Conservative government in 2015 CANNOT get EU concessions, it makes the Conservative EU Referendum in 2017 the UK's only chance of a democratic say.

You two make me larf, as voting UKIP and ensuring the ultra pro Labour, Lib Dems and SNP will be running parliament from 2015 for the next 5-10 years, as Farage wants, is the only way United Kingdom Independence Party remains remotely relevant in the future.

All the purples minions are doing is to blindly follow Farage, desperate to get into Westminster, after 6 times of trying - while getting wound up we are still in the EU and stupidly blame cameron. Duh.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11231687/Nigel-Farage-is-desperate-for-Ukip-to-join-the-cosy-Westminster-clique.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2793688/farage-backs-miliband-ukip-want-labour-win-election-fear-cameron-win-eu-referendum.html

news.sky.com/story/1377174/uncomfortable-coalitions-or-chaos-ahead

WetAugust · 12/12/2014 23:57

it makes us look longilngly back to the Cold War. if he wants Ki ev he can have it. Putin is an example of someone drunk with power. Europe has suffered enough from megalomaniacs. One the the things they love to trot out is that the EU will prevent future wars. I think it's got more chance of starting WW3

Seems that Farage pleaded with Enoch Powell to join UKIP back in the 90s. interesting.

Also read that Cameron appears to be reluctant to take part in pre election leadership debate. I didn't realise that before the last GE TVA debates he was actually 20 points ahead of Labour but blew on when the public went crazy for Nick (hard to believe now).

So the producers are threatening to do what they did when Roy Hattersley?? failed to turn up for HIGNFY and they replaced him with a tub of lard. seems that this satisfies the broadcasting rule that an absent party has to be represented.

So watch the debates and then go to vote for a) Ed and Grommit or b) a tub of lard

I am loving these last 20 countdown to the election weeks.

claig · 13/12/2014 00:51

'Also read that Cameron appears to be reluctant to take part in pre election leadership debate.'

Doesn't surprise me. He went to Eton and Oxford and has a PPE, but he is no match for the People's Army and Farage who left school at 18.

'the public went crazy for Nick (hard to believe now)'

Everyone knows I have absolutely no truck with conspiracy theories, but I must admit that even I started to think that conspiracy theorists might have a point when that Westminster School, Cambridge and College of Europe clown called Clegg was being talked about as if he walked on water.

"So the producers are threatening to do what they did when Roy Hattersley?? failed to turn up for HIGNFY and they replaced him with a tub of lard"

But how can we be expected to tell the difference?

"I am loving these last 20 countdown to the election weeks."

This is the most exciting election in recent history. The result will change Britain and possibly bring in PR and then it is curtains for the spinners.

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