Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

[claig]

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

'nowadays we require parliament/law makers to provide smarter government, not soundbites, as I don't know one soundbite that will actually achieve a thing'

Absolutely, that is why I was so opposed to the PPE soundbite spin of the Big Society, this third sector charidee thing.

"David Cameron’s flagship Big Society Network is being investigated by the Charity Commission over allegations that it misused government funding and made inappropriate payments to its directors – including a Tory donor.

The organisation, which was launched by the Prime Minister in 2010, was given at least £2.5 million of National Lottery funding and public-sector grants despite having no record of charitable activity.

The Independent has learnt that it has now been wound up, having used much of the money on projects that came nowhere near delivering on their promised objectives.

Two senior figures on government grant awarding bodies have also made allegations that they were pressured into handing over money to the Big Society Network despite severe reservations about the viability of the projects they were being asked to support.

Liam Black, a former trustee of Nesta, which was then a public body sponsored by the Department for Business, said Nesta had been “forced” to give grants that totalled £480,000 to the Big Society Network in 2010 without a competitive pitch. He described it as a “scandalous waste of money”."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-camerons-big-society-in-tatters-as-charity-watchdog-launches-investigation-into-claims-of-government-funding-misuse-9629848.html

We've got a huge deficit, is our hardworking taxpayer money being spent wisely? There seem to be more charidees than manufacturing companies around nowadays that it's hard to keep up with them.

Before or after?

So you can't be bothered actually dealing with facts?

I deal with the facts it's you that sees ray-cists around every corner. Thats your problem, not mine.

How about the fact that UKIP has formed alliances with a far right party in Europe in order to keep the funding coming? What's a ray-cist, by the way? Is it the same as a PPE?

Wrong

Get your facts right

It hasn't formed an alliance with a far right country

It has permitted ONE MP who does not hold the views of his party leader, to affiliate himself with the party for funding reasons.

Thereby negating the politically cynical move of the EU to try to deny Ukip any Eu Parl funding. It was that or ally themselves with Marie Le Penn. They chose the less damaging option. It doesnt mean they have adopted the views of that one MP any more than the Conservatives MEPs have adopted the homophobic views of their own EP grouping.

I'm glad I they did it and didnt go away to sit quietly in the corner as the EU wanted.

If that's the best you can come up with it's sad. And ray-cist is what someone chants without really understanding why they are chanting it - which suits the circumstances in your case very neatly.

WetAugust ... show us proof that UKIP had an option to get their extra EU funds by an alliance with the French 'Front National' under Le Penn, rather than an MEP from a dodgy other party.

As for proof of what UKIP is, and has been proud to use to get votes until had a 'corporate makeover' tried to change their image - but STILL make inflamatory comments, who better to judge;

“Ukip Founder Professor Alan Sked Says The Party Is 'Morally Dodgy' And 'Extraordinarily Right-Wing'”
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/26/ukip-founder-alan-sked-morally-dodgy_n_2190987.html

^“However, he may have won support from an unusual quarter - the founder and former leader of Ukip, Professor Alan Sked, says the party he launched in 1993 has become "extraordinarily right-wing" and is now devoted to "creating a fuss, via Islam and immigrants.

"They've got nothing to say on mainstream issues"

"Its extraordinary," Sked told the HuffPost UK, "that at the last general election, with the country facing the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression, [Ukip's] flagship policy was to ban the burqa."

"They're not an intellectually serious party.”

I thought I heard the French Front National rejected UKIP.

Anyway they wouldn't have wanted to ally with Le Pen 's lot - too many people know who he is. KNP is lovely and obscure.......

Alan Sked's views are Alan Sked's views. Shame the chap cannot accept progress and prefers to smear the party that he founded.

Le Penn is a 'she' i.e. Marie, not a 'he'.

Isitmebut - You carry on blindly supporting the Tories

Haykluyt - you carry on believing in ray-cism everywhere

Claig - I'll see you at the party at 10.30

'Claig - I'll see you at the party at 10.30'

Absolutely. If Farage does a job on the Establishment tonight, the People's Army will still be celebrating in the early hours of Monday morning.

Wow, FT has story tomorrow.

It seems I was wrong that Farage is close to Neil Hamilton.

The FT says that Stuart Wheeler is mates with Hamilton and he is refusing to give UKIP any more money unless UKIP find Hamilton a seat and apparently Farage is opposed to it and there is a battle going on.

Good news, let's see if the People's Army can drop Wheeler. It is the People's Party and they won't let people tell them what to do.

"Ukip at war over Neil Hamilton’s pursuit of seat"

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e91ed752-812a-11e4-896c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3LdjojD00

Good lord! Is that what they're styling themselves as? "The People's Army".
UKIP represent nothing I stand for

Didnt know that Claig but if its true it shows a very poor political nalaysis by Wheeler.

Anyway the Daiky Express has come to their rescue witha a 300,000 donation.

I am reading Lord Ashcroft's book about his fight against The Times and the Labour party. It was published in 2005. Its very interesting to see history repeating itself and I can see why he appears to have been marginalised / or has disassocaited himslef from the current tory incumbents.
Its a very good read.

I don't know much about Lord Ashcroft, but from the little I do know, he seems like a decent guy with principles. Maybe that explains why te Tory modernisers have moved away from him.

We don't really know about all teh battles at the top of UKIP. The Establishment will have its people in there somewhere trying to wreck UKIP's chances.

Wheeler may not have his heart with the People's Army.

"The Ukip donor who helped to mastermind the stunning defection of Douglas Carswell would consider switching back to the Conservatives if Boris Johnson became leader, he said yesterday.

Stuart Wheeler, the multi-millionaire former Tory stalwart who lit the fuse on the ‘Carswell coup’ over a secret lunch, would not return to the Conservatives with David Cameron as leader.

But that could change if Boris took over and introduced Ukip-friendly policies."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738810/I-rejoin-Tories-Boris-leader-says-mastermind-plotted-coup-castle.html

I have lost trust in the Tories, it wouldn't matter who leads them. I'm with UKIP, they are the only hope. Maybe Wheeler thinks differently.

Good news that Desmond is helping UKIP (apparently he may have about £1 billion according to some papers' reports) because that will strengthen Farage's hands in the battle at the top of UKIP. The Establishment will be in the thick of it trying to stop UKIP if they can.

I don't know much about Lord Ashcroft, but from the little I do know, he seems like a decent guy with principles.

That's the funniest thing you've ever said, claig!

I feel like I fell down the rabbit hole reading this thread.

I reckon Claig has been planted by the Establishment to show us all how truely strange and incoherent UKIP is.

O.YB.B.K..... The Establishment out of sanity would have pulled her plug by now; I'm convinced she's a Russian plant, no sense of humour, the old Soviet churning out 'vote for our glorious leader' propaganda, and the Stalin-esk ruthless streak sending any UKIP insider daring to question said glorious leader - to a political death camp in the east, not Essex, Siberia.

Funny, I read something recently about how Vlad 'Superbad face-lift' Putin is scheming to break up the EU...

"I don't know much about Lord Ashcroft, but from the little I do know, he seems like a decent guy with principles.

That's the funniest thing you've ever said, claig!"

I like having a laugh, but that was serious!

MonstrousRatbag ... re the Soviet plot, I'm sure he's been up to stuff for yonks, but I'd suggest there is more evidence the West is currently trying to get him back for Ukraine and Claig.

The oil markets, down 40% since the summer, the U.S. now pumping/fracking nearly as much oil out of the ground as Saudi Arabia, into an oil glut, and other western sympathetic oil producers also no doubt under threat from Russia supporting all the Arab bad boys, doing the same.

The West is trying to get him and topple him and he is probably hoping that he can break up the EU, but he hasn't got the power to do so.

He is probably hoping that Marine Le Pen becomes the President of France in 2017 because if she does, the whole world will change. The EU may collapse, France may pull out of Nato, no one knows what might happen.

'face-lift' Putin

I've never heard that, is it true or a joke?

Honestly, he cannot move his face!

Putin 2005:

And Putin 2014:

Blimey, MonstrousRatbag, I think you may be on to something.

To check the veracity, my first point of call was where I always turn to when looking for the truth, the Daily Mail, and lo and behold, it's in there

"From Russia with Botox: Has Putin had a facelift... or just plenty of sleep? Mystery as bags under eyes vanish"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041991/Vladimir-Putin-plastic-surgery-Facelift--just-plenty-sleep.html

He was ok-looking before (one of my friends even fancied him!). He looks like a pudding in a boiling cloth now.

Anyway, apologies for digressing from Serious Political Discussion.