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Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

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claig · 10/12/2014 17:51

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 08:17

Can I ask a question? Assuming that you are not satirical inventions, do you think you are being good "recruiting sergeants" for the People's Army?

claig · 13/12/2014 09:06

We're not satirical inventions. But I love having a laugh as well, but I also believe in the principled policy positions of the People's Army. Nobody can be a "recruiting sergeant" for the People's Army because they are the people and they are the smartest, savviest bunch of people out there.

They can spot spin and "recruiting pitches" and they laugh at them. That is why Cameron and the Etonians can't reach them, can't appeal to them, because the People's Army are immune to spin. The People's Army know why they vote People's Army, they are not swayed by "recruitment spin".

I'll give you an example of Classic People's Army.

This was shown on the BBC 10 pm News on the Euro elections night just after the polls had closed. People's Army viewers all over the country were tuned to their TV sets to see the results of how they were about to "tear up their lawns". The BBC news started off with pictures and video of the usual spinners, politicians of the Esatblishment parties etc, some of them lying through their teeth as is their habit. People's Army viewers had the sound turned down for that because they don't like spin.

Then they showed a voter at the polling booth somewhere in the country. She was tucking into a large cream bun, had what looked like a bottle of alcohol in her right hand and was climbing into the passenger seat of a car. A young, keen, BBC reporter (probably from Oxbridge and probably sent down from the Westmnster bubble patch to speak to real people) rushed over and said

"Excuse me, madam, can I ask how you voted?"

She looked at him with slight annoyance as if the answer should have been obvious.

"OOKIP," she said with a mouth full of bun, some of which was ejected in all directions as she spoke.

The eager BBC reporter (on an assignment to meet the real people) then followed up with

"Why's that?" expecting a detailed policy based evidence based case.

She looked at him with slightly more annoyance as if the answer should have been bleedin' obvious.

"Because the other lot can go and stuff themselves" and the car raced off, tires screeching, double exhaust blazing without a care for emissions and "saving the planet", faster than Lewis Hamilton pulling off at Silverstone.

People'a Army TV viewers across the entire country were rolling on the floor laughing. That woman got it, she had it, she knew it, she had her finger on the pulse, she spoke People's Army Common Sense, she summed it up. She was People's Army.

Twitter went wild, People's Army supporters demanded that she should receive the highest accolade the People's Army bestow, the largest "fruitcake" in their locker.

They can't "recruit" the People's Army, they can't "spin" the People's Army, because a savvier, more common sense, switched on people you can't find.

I've heard reports that they even show that video to first year PPE students at Oxford as an assignment. I've heard that the Professor asks the eager students to come up with a "recruiting sergeant" pitch that could win that woman over to an Establishment party. Most of the students (many from our finest public school such as Eton etc) are completely baffled, they've never met am ordinary person like her, the salt of the earth, the People's Army.

Some of them suggest a long spiel about income distribution levels, endogenous growth etc. The more advanced PPE students mention predistribution, responsible capitalism and the save-all option of "save the planet". The Professor scores all the students' attempts and gives them all zero. The Professor tells the students that the woman was People's Army, the definition of common sense. The Professor rightly said, you can't "recruit" People's Army, there is nothing you can do, they are too smart for all that. The Professor told the students of the oldest political adage, one they had never heard of, "if you can't beat them, join them" and that's exactly what they all did. They are in the People's Army now.

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claig · 13/12/2014 09:28

They will never beat the People's Army because it is the People's Party, it is not the Establishment's Party like all the rest. It is our party.

"Yesterday Ukip donor Arron Banks was seen walking around the streets of Rochester, surveying how his £1 million had been spent. Diane James was in Rochester with her dog, clad in a Ukip vest.

According to Ukip supporters, the lead figures in the party are “more affable and approachable than other party leaders”.

“I went to the Conservative Party conference once and most of the people there were lobbyists” said one activist. “One area was just for the press, another was reserved for the lobbyists. There was no engagement from the politicians with their supporters. When I went to the Ukip conference I met Nigel Farage, I shook his hand, I spoke to Diane James and Suzanne Evans.”

The sentiment was echoed by another Ukip supporter: “Ukip is the party of and for ordinary people.”

Many said they were attracted by the idea of empowering local democracy, and taking back power from Westminster and “the elites”.

It’s this that has led campaigners to get a train for their home turf, like Saffron Walden and Forest of Dean.

Many supporters say they had never voted before

Many campaigners we talked to said Ukip had brought them to the ballot box for the first time.

This chimes with ComRes findings that 28% of Ukip supporters in Rochester had abstained at the last general elections.

One campaigner, David Allum, said that seeing Nigel Farage on Question Time was a crucial moment from him. “I hadn’t voted in 15 years.” He said he drove 90 miles to a party meeting in Margate and met and spoke withPatrick O'Flynn. Now he’s thinking of running in his local council in Saffron Walden.

A group of campaigners told the Mirror that when they heard Nigel Farage speak it was like listening to themselves. “That’s me!” says Gordon Richards from Wiltshire “that’s what I thought when I saw him."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/meet-ukip-peoples-army-who-4665996

It really is hopeless for the Establishment. There is nothing they can do. It doesn't matter how many Oxbridge graduates they throw at it, they can't beat the people. It is a revolution, a people's revolution.

The people have had enough and now they are starting to get involved and they are supporting the People's Army. Clacton was the biggest landslide in British postwar political history. But Clacton is only the start. There is utter panic in think tanks staffed by Oxbridge teenage whizzkids. Even billionaires are starting to panic and think that they are wasting their lobbying money by backing PPEs. They have no answer to the people.

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claig · 13/12/2014 10:06

The Establishment would have called that woman "vile" and "unBritish" because she didn't meet their BMI targets and she enjoyed a cream bun and she had a bottle of alcohol and opposed the elite's minimum alcohol pricing level policies that would stop her buying a 2 for 1 at Aldi while these public school boys enjoy champagne sometimes paid for by the public and some allegedly call hard-working public servants "plebs". And above all they hate the fact that she is "politically incorrect" and tells her betters, the great and the good, to get stuffed.

But the People's Army love her, because she is one of us.

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 10:19

You do know that Nigel Farage is a public school educated ex commodities broker, don't you?

I know lots of the "people's army" don't.......

Storytown · 13/12/2014 10:24

I met Nigel Farage once - his DS's (posh) school were playing my (not so posh) school at Cricket. He was absolutely vile, loudly complaining that the common kids didn't know how to behave or understand cricket.

This was long before anyone had ever heard of him, he's probably learned to behave a bit better in public now, but that's how he was.

Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 10:30

Nonsense, storytown- you must be remembering incorrectly. Apart from anything else, there is no way NF's children would have gone to a posh school. He is a man of the people- just like the rest of us. You have obviously been conned by Establishment led propaganda...................

EdithWeston · 13/12/2014 10:34

When was he at Dulwich? Post-war, most of its pupils were on assisted places (or forerunner of essentially the same arrangements) and a lot were until the abolition of the scheme in the 1990s.

Rather a different school then, I'd expect (is it true that academic results were higher then too?)

claig · 13/12/2014 10:34

Of course he is, but so what?

Brand put that to him on Question Time. Farage should have demolished the millionaire media-hyped and BBC Establishment promoted clown.

7% of our population go to public school. That doesn't make them bad because their parents are desperate for them to get a good education and are willing to pay through their noses for it. That doesn't make Labour MP, Diane Abbott, bad yjat she paid for her son to go to private school. Nobody cares where anyone went to school unless they are promoted simply because of that and not on merit, unless thay are rewarded simply because of that and act as puppets against ordinary people in political parties.

I used to work in the City and so do hundreds of thousands of commuters from Essex, Surrey, Kent and Hertfordshire as we get up in the early hours and travel in by train and pay the sky-high fares. We're not millionaires like Russell Brand, we're just trying to earn a living and thankfully there are jobs in the City of London where we can work. London is a great city and there are work opportunities and City people are not bad. What is bad is fat cats who stitch up the people by rigging LIBOR markets, defrauding investors and being unethical, regulators asleep on their watch, puppet politicians who ignore what is going on.

Brand has got more money than Farage. Farage has done more for this country than Brand and has given hope to the woman in the car who voted "OOKIP" and to millions of ordinary people who haven't voted and who have abstained for years. But those Establishment crooks will probably knight Brand one day for services to the Establishment in being an Establishment useful idiot in unwittingly helping them in trying to bring the People's Party down.

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 10:41

"What is bad is fat cats who stitch up the people by rigging LIBOR markets, defrauding investors and being unethical, regulators asleep on their watch, puppet politicians who ignore what is going on."

Like millionaire commodities brokers?

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 13/12/2014 10:43

claig, your comments on alcohol pricing have made me think -

Current evidence is that moving the UK to a 'harm reduction' drug policy (ie full/partial legalisation with controls) rather than the current 'zero tolerance' would save many lives.

But no politician will touch it because, essentially, the Mail would go apeshit.

Do you think in cases like this, it's more important to do what you think is right, or to do what the people want?

Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 10:45

You do seem to be incredibly patronising about your "ookip" lady......

Icimoi · 13/12/2014 10:50

Are UKIP seriously calling themselves the People's Army these days? They are slipping further and further into self-parody.

claig · 13/12/2014 10:55

I love the "OOKIP" lady, I want her in charge of the People's Army. I am not patronising about her. I laugh with her and stick two fingers up to them with her. She is People's Army, I am People's Army and we are tearing up their lawns and it is great fun to watch those spinners sink lower and lower in the polls for disrespecting, insulting and patronising ordinary people.

'But no politician will touch it because, essentially, the Mail would go apeshit.'

Farage wants what you want and what Establishment promoted Brand wants and what the Establishment, who promote Brand, want

"Nigel Farage: I have never taken drugs but they should be legal"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10744924/Nigel-Farage-I-have-never-taken-drugs-but-they-should-be-legal.html

But Farage is wrong and the Daily Mail is right and that is why it will not happen.

Clegg, Establishment nonentity, wants something like that.

But the Daily Mail would beat them all if they tried it and the Daily Mail is right.

At the end of the day what is wrong with this country is that these promoted Establishment types decide what will be done without consulting ordinary people.

UKIP believe in democracy and referenda. Let the people decide, not Farage, Clegg and the Establishment BBC. Put it to a referendum, and then you would see that as always the people agree with the Daily Mail.

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claig · 13/12/2014 10:58

"Are UKIP seriously calling themselves the People's Army these days? They are slipping further and further into self-parody."

Icimoi, that is the whole point it is a laugh and we are having a laugh tearing up their lawns while they are tearing out their hair.

They can ban us smoking in parks, they can turn our street lights off after midnight without asking us, they can introduce minimum alcohol pricing without asking us and stop us buying our 2 for 1s, but they can't stop us laughing and we are laughing at them and that is why we are going to win.

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 11:00

Now that point makes no sense at all. You do realise that Brand is not actually a politician? It's only Farage v. Brand on Question Time not in real life.

And the very word "ookip" is patronising. And your description of her is incredibly patronising.

Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 11:01

What does "tearing up their lawns" mean?

claig · 13/12/2014 11:07

"OOKIP" is not patronising, she said "OOKIP" because she had a mouth full of cream bun that she was tucking into with gusto. It is a laugh.

"What does "tearing up their lawns" mean?"

It means we've got them on the run, they're panicking, they don't know what to do, their spin can't help them, it's all over, we are going to win

"Their tanks are digging up my lawn," Sarah Champion, Labour's MP for Rotherham, told the Today programme this morning. Ukip are in Doncaster today for their annual conference, with Labour firmly in their sights, and that party is beginning to worry."

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/stephenkb/100287806/morning-briefing-its-not-eu-its-me/

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 11:10

""OOKIP" is not patronising, she said "OOKIP" because she had a mouth full of cream bun that she was tucking into with gusto. It is a laugh."

Oh, what a sweet little common person she must have been. Hmm

claig · 13/12/2014 11:13

"You do realise that Brand is not actually a politician?"

That is exactly why the Establishment and the Establishment BBC need and promote Brand. They can't beat Farage with a politician. "Politician" has almost become a dirty word along with Westminster and metropolitan elite.

The people are in revolt, there is a revolution going on and the Establishment are powerless to stop it. The "OOKIP" woman in the car said it, she nailed it, she told them "they can all go and stuff themselves".

They need their own street-cred comedian and "revolutionary" to promote a false pied piper revolution to win the "OOKIP" woman back and stop her telling them to "stuff themselves". But it won't work because she is People's Army, salt of the earth, she is wise to all their tricks.

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claig · 13/12/2014 11:13

"Oh, what a sweet little common person she must have been."

Absolutely, she is one of us.

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 11:18

"But it won't work because she is People's Army, salt of the earth, she is wise to all their tricks."

As I said. Sweet little common person. Aren't they enchanting with their cream buns and bottles of beer. And the way they talk! I could listen to them all day. Well, 5 minutes anyway.... Just the sort of patsy Farage needs. Somebody who falls hook line and sinker for the "man of the people" routine

claig · 13/12/2014 11:26

'I could listen to them all day. Well, 5 minutes anyway'

That is why you are patronising just like Clegg and all of them.

'Just the sort of patsy Farage needs.'

Farage doesn't need patsies, he is one of us because he shares our views, it doesn't matter what school he went to.

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Hakluyt · 13/12/2014 11:29

Irony passes you by rather, doesn't it?

How many salt of the earth cream bun eating, Ookips has Farage got in his inner circle?

claig · 13/12/2014 11:39

'How many salt of the earth cream bun eating, Ookips has Farage got in his inner circle?'

The entire front bench for a start and they would all shake the "OOKIP" woman's hand after she said "they can all go and stuff themselves". That is what explains UKIP's phenomenal rise and their popularity. It is anti-establishment, anti political correctness, anti how they tell us we should be, anti Labour spin of "we are better than that". It's real, it's the "OOKIP" woman and it's one hell of a laugh.

We're tearing up their lawns.

Farage said it at the end of his debate with Clegg, where he trounced the College of Europe spinner

"Join the revolution. Let's topple the Establishment"

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