Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

[claig]

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

Claig .... Excuse me, then I'll apologize to you at well - it's Christmas, so make the most of it, FOR GOD'S SAKE! lol

Interesting, I detect a 'we the (establishment) Conservatives' in your tone.

Maybe, just maybe, based on all the recent head-up-bottom comments by a shed load of home smoked 'kippers, you are starting to accept my view that if you hadn't turned two sitting Conservative MP's to the right wing 'Dark Side', UKIP would be waiting a lot longer for their first MP.

I sense 'the disturbance in The Force' might be turning down a notch or two - as UKIP find they need to become more Conservative MP 'establishment', to join their turncoat ranks in Westminster.

Agree that the teaching establishment has been pervaded by lefties. They annoy the life out of me with their stupid edu-speak where playtime becomes 'unstructured time' and a child is 'a young person'. Can't bloody stand them.

Disagree with Mrs Mays latest east stupidity of kicking out foreign graduates. I'd prefer to retain a highly qualified non-EU UK trained doctor than an Eastern European waiter - but, as usual with political parties it's bums on seats they are counting - not the quality of those posteriors.

Couple of interesting things recently. Labour predicted to get 4 Scots MPs That means they will need coalition partner. SNP price for coalition is expected to be nuclear disarmament in Scotland at least. Worrying

SinnFein may decide to take up their Westminster seats. How would that affect any future coalition? Worrying

May and Boris being seen as contenders post-Dave. Both are crap. Worrying

It's too late for UKIP. I am bitterly disappointed as it was the only worthwhile anti EU vote when it was a single issue party.

Looks like I shall have to vote MRL this time

some UKIP PPC has just stated that angst donkey tried to rape his horse.

Yes, I had to read it twice too.

And that's the problem with the party. The chap was asked by a reporter about sex with animals. He should have brushed the question off and walked away. But his political naivety made him search fir a 'suitable anecdote to respond to the question. They soooooo badly need media training. But with THISE sort if thoughts in the first place, I doubt media training would help

'Interesting, I detect a 'we the (establishment) Conservatives' in your tone. '

Absolutely not! I am People's Army, and don't believe the polls and the media. We are going to win lots of seats and hold the balance of power. The Conservatives are finished because they are the Establishment and UKIP are the people.

Claig

You are in for a huge disappointment

UKIP may gain between 1 and 3 seats. It will not hold the BOP. I warned a long time ago that UKIP needed to manage its supporters expectations as these predictions of many seats and BOP are just woo and if their supporters truly believe this they are bring misled. Those supporters will ditch the party post election as their expectations have not been met

True EU independence supporters know we are in for the kong haul.

We are in for a long haul and by 2020 UKIP will be the first or second largest party in the country. The People's Army know that. You can't win independence from the EU by just being a party that wants a referendum, just as the SNP couldn't win independence by just being for a referendum. You need a political party with a broad political programme because you are up against the Establishment and they want to be in the EU just as they want to keep the Climate Change Act. UKIP is a political party that opposes their key aims and that is how it will eventually win. It will be a long haul, but as we have seen by the stunning rise of the People's Army in just two short years, it will not be as long as all that. By 2020, it will nearly be all over.

I disagree Claig. You are in danger of seeing everything from your ivory tower of isolations from the real Peoples Army.. I think that if you actually got out and met them you would not identfy with them at all.

You are also denying the facts. If Ukip was this tidal surge that was overwhelming the country it would be higher in the polls, it would win every local council seat that it stood for (it doesn't). You need to seriously consider whether you are deluding yourself in believing there is a level of support out there that the facts do not bear out.

Zoe Williams in the Guardian thinks that UKIP trying to control their media output is a mistake. She is right. UKIP is genuine and that is why it is different and will win. Zoe seems to think that UKIP will eventually lose because of its genuineness, but I think she is wrong.

"Cracking down on honesty could be Ukip’s last bad idea

Warning its members off Twitter is a mistake – speaking freely is the party’s signature difference"
...
Ukip is a protest party, first and foremost; its headline protest is against immigration, but contained within that is a protest against Westminster; you don’t have to live in an area of high immigration to feel as though you have been left behind by the political compacts made at the centre.

The mainstream has two immediate problems: first, that individual MPs are not allowed to give an authentic response to anything, let alone vote according to their own beliefs and values, without prior permission from the centre
...
The real breakdown of trust is due to the persistent and reasonable sense that nobody is saying what they actually think. That is Ukip’s signature difference: that its representatives don’t have to check with anybody before they give a view. They are mad, frankly, to let go of it.
...
they should never have started talking of themselves as a “brand” which must be protected as they grew. It is tantamount to saying: “The closer we come to power, the more we will start to resemble those already in power.”

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/21/honesty-ukip-party-members-twitter-branding-parties

There will be Establishment people within UKIP who urge caution and want to "become a brand" and "manipulate their image", but Farage is of and for the people, he is in tune with the public and he will win out over the Establishment siren voices that aim to cast UKIP against the rocks.

Don't write the People's Army off due to bad media reports. The People's Army has had the kictchen sink thrown at them by the Establishment and they came out without a scratch.

The UKIP revolution is not over, it has only just begun.

'You are in danger of seeing everything from your ivory tower of isolations from the real Peoples Army'

I meet ordinary voters, not party members, and I know what they think. It is voters who count, not ex-Tory councillors like the woman who made "jaw-dropping comments".

'If Ukip was this tidal surge that was overwhelming the country it would be higher in the polls, it would win every local council seat that it stood for'

But you have to understand that it is a slow process, people still think that UKIP doesn't stand a chance of beating the Establishment parties, but that will all change as UKIP become more and more successful. There will be council elections on May 7, I think. Wait and see how well UKIP do all over the South and East of England. Ordinary voters will not be voting Tory, in my opinion. It is all over for them. They turned teh streetlights off and even Labour has got wise to it and have started campaigning on it.

"Councils leaving large areas of England in dark to save money, Labour says

Opposition survey finds that 106 out of 150 English councils are turning off or dimming streetlights in response to spending cuts"

www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/22/labour-critiicises-council-streetlighting-cuts-england

Millions will vote UKIP and not Labour, because they don't trust Labour, they think all other parties are the same. Only UKIP is the opposition.

Farage will trounce the spinners in any debates, if Cameron has a debate.

UKIP are still a relatively new party in terms of success, but they are growing fast and no amount of Establishment kitchen sinks are going to stop them. The whole British political system is undergoing huge change and there will be losers (The Tories) and winners (the People's Army).

They wil try to smear UKIP because that is all they have got left. The people have had enough, they won't be swayed by media reports about what some ex-Tory councillors or members say after they have defected to UKIP.

"UKIP's glory in the UK is the start of a global revolution

UKIP has changed the face of politics in Britain with its historic victory at home in the European elections. But it's so much bigger than that. All across the democratic world a revolution is underway. To mainstream media and politics: You ain't seen nothing yet
...
The tectonic plates have moved. And that thing, that gigantic wave, that you see on the horizon is not a bad weather event, whatever the establishment may have pursuaded itself to believe. It is a historic shift. It's coming right at you. It's got momentum. And there's nothing you can do to stop it.

That's the take-home message from the European election results to politically interested people from Washington to Beijing.

UKIP's incredible victory in Britain against all the odds, and in the face of a mainstream smear campaign that would have shamed Goebbels will cheer its own supporters. It will frighten the Conservatives and Labour, and it will send shock waves across Europe.

But it's so much more significant than that.

All over the democratic world in what we used to call The West we are witnessing nothing less than a revolution."

www.thecommentator.com/article/4975/ukip_s_glory_in_the_uk_is_the_start_of_a_global_revolution

"Ukip vs the world

How an anti-political party seeks to explode politics
...
Many predicted that coalition would see a return to two-party politics. But what we’re seeing in England today is the emergence of four-party politics. Ukip is moving to fill the protest party vacancy created by the Liberal Democrats, while simultaneously winning over disillusioned Tory and Labour voters.

The question is, can an anti-politics party succeed in the long run? If it can, then the political explosion Ukip is about to spark could blow traditional politics apart."

www.spectator.co.uk/features/8901181/ukip-vs-the-world/

"As the drizzle falls on Rochester, the People’s Army is not marching but inching towards Parliament, under the banner: “They can’t be worse than the other lot.” It’s a very English revolution."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11231918/Rochester-by-election-Ukip-mounts-a-very-English-revolution.html

If UKIP don't do so well at this election then the protest voters won't for them in 2020.

1. because they want instant change (anything short of a revolution will be a failure)
2. because UKIP haven't lived up to the promises that they are being sold
3. because a lot of UKIP voters who are either knocking on a bit, and given that they are fag smoking pint drinkers, will have a shorter life expectancy...
4. because a lot of UKIP voters are more inclined to see an Election as a popularity contest in a similar vein to X Factor that loves the cult of the celebrity. (If Boris did take charge of the Tories, I fear that the 'loveable buffoon' will attract a few of the more fickle). UKIP will be so 2014/5 not 2020...
5. because something will have to give within Europe with the EU before 2020. I don't see some of the current issues not coming to a head and being resolved in someway before then.

UKIP are very much of a moment, and their future very much depends on a 'tidal wave' actually succeeding to take the balance of power this time round.

I heard an interesting prediction last week - I forget where - it was said in jest, but with a seriousness too. It was that there will be two General Elections next year, with Cameron being ousted after the first... Its a prediction I think is very possible.

'If UKIP don't do so well at this election then the protest voters won't for them in 2020.'

I think they will because the problems will not go away. Our streetlights will still be switched off, our fuel prices will rise as the green subsidies increase as part of the Establishment's Climate Change Act and nothing much will change. The spin will change, but it will be the same old faces saying the same old story. By 2020, EU relations with Russia will probably be desperate if not near war, and the European people will want a different policy - a Farage foreign policy.

1. because they want instant change (anything short of a revolution will be a failure)

People are patient, they know they can't change the spin and lies overnight.

2. because UKIP haven't lived up to the promises that they are being sold

People know that it is UKIP vs the rest and that UKIP can't achieve miracles with the Establishment against them, so they do not have unrealistic expectations. They know it will take time and they will wait.

3. because a lot of UKIP voters who are either knocking on a bit, and given that they are fag smoking pint drinkers, will have a shorter life expectancy...

UKIP attracts all age ranges. Young Independence, their youth movement, is growing and talent will emerge from it.

4. because a lot of UKIP voters are more inclined to see an Election as a popularity contest in a similar vein to X Factor that loves the cult of the celebrity. (If Boris did take charge of the Tories, I fear that the 'loveable buffoon' will attract a few of the more fickle). UKIP will be so 2014/5 not 2020...

This is what the Tory bigwigs hope. But as ever they underestimate the people. The whole rise of UKIP is due to people having had enough of spin. So X Factor glam won't work any more.

5. because something will have to give within Europe with the EU before 2020. I don't see some of the current issues not coming to a head and being resolved in someway before then.

It will get much worse. Le Pen may win the French Presidency in 2017 and the situation with Russia will likely be dire as the attempt to topple Putin and steal Russia's assets and resources hots up.

"It was that there will be two General Elections next year, with Cameron being ousted after the first... Its a prediction I think is very possible."

Yes and in each election, UKIP is likely to grow stronger.

UKIP is only a symptom of what is happening all over Europe. People are turning to populist parties who represent them and not the Establishments. The old tired parties have failed the people and have ignored the people. That is why the people are turning to UKIP and populist parties in Europe.

There is a reason for the revolution - it is that the people have been ignored and the elites have served themselves.

"UKIP's incredible victory in Britain against all the odds, and in the face of a mainstream smear campaign that would have shamed Goebbels will cheer its own supporters. It will frighten the Conservatives and Labour, and it will send shock waves across Europe.

But it's so much more significant than that.

All over the democratic world in what we used to call The West we are witnessing nothing less than a revolution."

www.thecommentator.com/article/4975/ukip_s_glory_in_the_uk_is_the_start_of_a_global_revolution

UKIP are about sovereignty and giving power back to the people and taking it away from the elites.

The EU is the centralised tool of the elite, the way they can rule over near to 500 million people centrally. If you think the EU is unpopular now, wait and see what happens over the next 5 years, before the 2020 election.

The elites will try to push through the TTIP trade deal which may open us up to GM food, more climate change regulations and green policies and more privatisation etc, and then there will be the really big thing that the elites will do as they step up pressure on Russia. It will become ever clearer to more and more people all across Europe, that their leaders are not in charge and are told what to do and that will make UKIP grow even more.

Zoe Williams is right. The party will destroy itself if it permits uncensored comment.

And Id be quite happy to see the party destroy itself as its a monster that its leaders cannot control and, as a consequence, it is doing a huge amount of damage to the cause it was originally established to address - Britain's exit from the EU.

Political parties surge and fade. They have done so for as long as there has been democracy.

What we need to get out of the EU is not a political party but a complete change in ideology. The current poll shows 51% of the public want an EU exit. They are being driven to this view by constant demands from the EU for more of our money when the country is suffering from domestic austerity measures and by the goading of the UK by EU officials. There will be a crunchpoint. It may come from another member state, as the Monday evening marches in Germany escalate, or because an EU member country exits the Euro or because the EU's foreign policy takes us to the brink of war with Russia. or because we open our doors to Turkey (incidetally we have just been told that we must pay benefits to Turkish workers in the UK, even though Turkey is not an EU member).

The reason I think this is because the EU can sit in their ivory towers in Brussles and Strassbourg and formulate policies until the cows come home, but its individual governemnets that have to implement them and deal with their own population's hosyilities to thise policies and will eventually have to deal with the civil disorder that results from this ivory-tower thinking. No domestic government could implement some of the EU-demanded policies withput antagnoising their electorate. Imagine the Tories or Labour standing at an election sand stating they would permit 500,000 net immigration in 2 years? They would lose. But that is exactly what the UK will permit in the coming 2 years due to EU demands to do so.

i don't think that exiting the EU will be achievable due to opposition from any one political party in this country. Just as all the main parties believe the EU is a good thing they need to come round to the collective view that our membership is not a good thing.

'Just as all the main parties believe the EU is a good thing they need to come round to the collective view that our membership is not a good thing.'

They can't do that and never will. They are only doing what the Establishment wants. It is the Establishment in charge, and billionaires ultimately drive policy, not ordinary people.

That is why UKIP is an anti-establishment party, an anti-politics party as the Establishment calls it and as Zoe Williams said

"Ukip is a protest party, first and foremost; its headline protest is against immigration, but contained within that is a protest against Westminster; you don’t have to live in an area of high immigration to feel as though you have been left behind by the political compacts made at the centre."

The SNP has had such success in Scotland because it is a political party, also anti-Westminster, and it would not have got so close to independence if it was just a pressure group or lobby arguing for a referendum.

The way to leave the EU is, as Peter Hitchens said, in an interview with Chat Politics, to have a party put it in its manifesto and to get elected on that manifesto. He said that Establishments always win referendums, because they frame the question and have the media to help them.

We know that the EU told the French and Irish to vote again after they voted against a Treaty.

This is from wikipedia about referendums in the UK not being legally binding

"Referendums are not legally binding, so legally the Government can ignore the results; for example, even if the result of a pre-legislative referendum were a majority of ‘No' for a proposed law, Parliament could pass it anyway, because parliament is sovereign."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_the_United_Kingdom

We need to separate out these 'elites'. There is the Anglosphere elite and the EU elite. I very much doubt that the ultimate aims of the Anglosphere elite match those of the EU elite, and that's when we will be forced to exit.

If we stay in we will eventually be forced to accept a single currency and total EU sovereignty. We will have to give up our seat on the UN Security Council and put our Armed Services at the EU's disposal.

Do you think we will reach that point?

'I very much doubt that the ultimate aims of the Anglosphere elite match those of the EU elite, and that's when we will be forced to exit.'

I don't know how it works but it seems to me that the US elite is near enough in charge of our elite. It is the US that wants Turkey in the European Union and it is Cameron who said the other day that he wants Turkey in the European Union, and it is France and Germany who are against it.

The US also wants us to be in the European Union as Obama said a few years' ago and our Establishment wants to be in it too. Farage is going against US wishes and our Establishment by wanting to take us out.

'Do you think we will reach that point?'

I don't because I think the people will win and it will be by voting for UKIP. If you listen to Michael Heseltine you can see that he thinks we will join the Euro and that we have to as part of the globalised world. I think our ruling elite probably think the same because the real world elite wants a globalised one world system and our elite is only a subset of that elite. That is why I think we have already ceded so much sovereignty, because we are not truly independent.

That is why the United Kingdom Independence Party is such a revolution because it seeks independence.

We are witnessing teh biggest shakeup in British politics in 100 years. the elites are losing power slowly and a people's revolution is changing politics. Will it continue? Can teh elite stop it? We don't know yet. All teh cards are stacked against Farage, all the kitchen sinks are waiting to be thrown at him, all the media is waiting to find "fruitcakes". It all depends on the people, whom they believe and trust and whom they vote for.

"Today, mid-level US officials will have been studying cables from the American Embassy in London.

The topic? The EU elections and Ukip.

The content of those cables will make uncomfortable reading. Here are three reasons why.

First, the US Government supports greater British integration with the European Union."
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But it’s not just the EU question.

Of equal concern in Washington will be what Ukip’s rise portends for next year’s General Election. America knows that Farage has tapped into a deep vein of populist anger; now it will have to consider that Ukip may – just possibly – win enough seats in Parliament to become a coalition partner for a Conservative government. Recognising Farage’s unashamed isolationist sentiments, the US will worry that, were he to enter government as a minority partner, Farage would push Cameron towards a less active British foreign policy.

Last August, Washington was shocked when Cameron failed to secure Parliamentary approval for strikes against Assad. Kerry’s anger had a particularly thin veil. Since then, Washington has become concerned that British sentiment has grown deeply sceptical of American foreign policy. The State Department will believe that Farage provides a new figurehead for this disillusionment. In specific terms, the US will have paid close attention to Farage’s fervent opposition to Cameron's policy in Ukraine, Libya, and Syria."

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomrogan/100273318/why-washington-will-worry-about-ukips-rise/

Farage is amazing because he is independent. Of course that is why everything will be done to try and stop him winning power.

"Nigel Farage has accused the European Union of having “blood on its hands” over the Ukraine.

Does that sound over the top?

Well it might if you’ve been taking your cue from much of the media this last month. Mostly it has been following the line that Putin is a warmongering bully whose incursion into the Crimea was entirely unprovoked.

But you really don’t need to be a massive Putin fan to acknowledge that Farage has a point. It was the EU that provoked this crisis in the Ukraine, not the Russians."

www.breitbart.com/london/2014/03/28/nigel-farage-is-right-it-was-the-eu-not-russia-which-provoked-the-ukraine-crisis/

This is about a 24 minute video interview Farage did in the US. He goes through teh lot - political correctness, the elite's climate change obsession, the EU, sovereignty etc.

He is amazing because he is independent and different

"Farage has been a Member of the European Parliament since 1999 and his party is now showing surprising growth as middle-class Britons rebel against the EU, open borders and an oppressive government.To put it simply, Farage wants to take his country back!

In an exclusive 24 minute video interview filmed on September 4 in Washington, D.C., Farage exudes self assurance, spunk and principle as a leader unafraid of the European Union “the emperor has no clothes.” From reading the tea leaves in Europe, Farage believes fewer people are enamored with the growing, centralized, bureaucratized state based out of Brussels."

dailycaller.com/2014/09/14/nigel-farage-an-emerging-leader-unafraid-to-take-his-country-back/

Lots of interesting points there Claig. I've always thought it odd that the US wants us in the EU. I used to think it was because, having bailed us out twice in the C20th, they wanted a unified Europe so they wouldn't have to bail us out a 3rd time.

I now believe that the US hasn't really thought this one through fully - well they never do think through their foreign policy. The US mistrusts France even more than we do, so why do they want us bound in political union with France. We would no longer be such an independent and reliable ally if our own foreign policy had been delegated to the EU. UK / US cooperation would be reduced as we defer all major decisions to the EU.

I can see why the US want Turkey into the EU. Turkey used to be their model Islamic state but have they really considered that in admitting Turkey the EU would have borders with IsIs controlled territory and all the problems that would bring.

The only other explanation that could explain the US support for UK membership is to constrain Germany I.e. That in the EU every country has to go along with collective decision making, which prevents hostility from a single member state. Maybe the US actually believes that the EU is democratic when we all know that it's Germany that runs the show. The UK approach has always been for a wider EU to counter the French and German vision of a deeper EU. Perhaps admitting an Islamic nation and having to translate everything into Arabic will be the straw that breaks the camels back in the unruly Tower of Babel?

The US is the world superpower, the world empire. They are like Ancient Rome. The US wants a single market with unified standards and regulations in order to make business and commerce easier. I think it also wants unified, centralised decision making.

I think we are the reliable ally and one of our roles is to persuade anc convince the rest of Europe about US and our objectives (e.g. Turkey's accession to the EU). France and Germany don't want it and Italy probably doesn't either. We will probably try to work to enlarge the EU and get Turkey in. A lot of it is about forming an EU/NATO block against Russia. We want Turkey in our orbit for strategic reasons. We need Turkey in our sphere if we have conflict with Russia or Iran.

I think the US does not fully trust France over the long term because France has always been independent e.g De Gaulle who was not in NATO etc and now Le Pen says she will pull out of NATO. Germany is a powerhouse and it has long been US/UK policy to split any alliance/cooperation between Germany and Russia. Both world wars pitted Germany against Russia and weakened both and now we are again seeing Russia and Germany being split as the tension between the EU and Russia increases over Ukraine which is not really in Germany's national interest, but the Germans don't have much choice.

"The only other explanation that could explain the US support for UK membership is to constrain Germany I.e. That in the EU every country has to go along with collective decision making, which prevents hostility from a single member state"

Heseltine said on the Daily Politics when Carswell was on with him "The real that we have to face in this country is, a very simple one, do you want Germany to have hegemony over Europe a dominance over Europe to our exclusion?"

But the question is how much influence do we really have over Germany, we have to send John Major to ask them to help us out over allowing us to control our borders etc.

Farage takes a different view on foreign policy. He is for sovereignty, democracy and nation states which is the opposite philosophy of all of the great and the good who believe in globalisation and supranational bodies which pool sovereignty etc. They all call Farage's philosophy, one of the past. But as we see with the EU and Russia conflict, the puppets in non-sovereign governments have no real say and can't stop the drive to conflict because their nation states are no longer sovereign and an unelected supranational elite decides if we will be heading for conflict.

Farage was right that the Euro was a disaster for European people and countries, he wants to liberate us and all of Europe from the global EU superstate that is not controlled by national parliaments, governments and people and he wants to prevent the drive to empire of an expansionist EU that will risk conflict or war with Russia.

Who wins will determine the future of Europe and its people. I think Farage is right. He will liberate us from the EU, scrap the elite's Climate Change Act, free the people from political correctness and restore sovereignty and democracy.

Watch his interview in the US at this link.

dailycaller.com/2014/09/14/nigel-farage-an-emerging-leader-unafraid-to-take-his-country-back/

It is very good. Farage is fearless, he says what the people think and is not scared of saying it, he won't let political correctness stop him. He explains why he is so fearless. It is because he doesn't need to be liked, like a Blair or Brown or any of the others, he doesn't care if they jeer and boo him on Question Time etc because he nearly died in a plane crash and he came through it and he says he is on a mission to free us and free Europe from the EU superstate and he won't stop until he wins.

That is why he is remarkable and why he has got them all on the run.

We have always wanted a larger EU in order to weaken the EU and play countries off against each other. But the strategy does not seem to have worked because we often don't get much support from the other countries who still toe the German line because Germany has the financial clout.

The EU will break up as Farage predicts. It is just a matter of time. If Le Pen gets in lots of things will change. Italy is in a bad state etc. If the likelihood of conflict with Russia increases, some countries and their people will not go along and the unity could dissolve. All of teh populist movements across Europe such as UKIP are a threat to European unity. The populists are on the rise all over Europe and the globalists and elitists are on the decline as everybody now knows that they do not serve the interests of the people but serve the interests of the billionaires and high finance.

The great and the good, the high and the mighty, the puppets and the PPEs are reeling from a man with a fag and pint and an army of "fruitcakes". They can't understand how all their think tanks and planning has led to this. Little old UKIP has got the whole lot on the run.

Farage says in that video interview that it is about culture and identity rather than economics and that is of course correct and is something the puppets of finance will never say because for the puppets and bankers, finance and economics comes above culture, identity, independence, tradition and the people.

Farage tells the truth which is why he is in touch with the people and why he describes himself as the little boy who sits in the EU Parliament and cries "the emperor has no clothes" to the EU unelected EU bureaucrats.

It would be great if Labour's Simon Danczuk defected to UKIP. He only has a majority of 889. He is a good outspoken MP who is not afraid to speak up and tell teh truth, just like Farage. I prefer Danczuk to Carswell, because Danczuk is one of teh people and thinks more like teh majority of people. If he doesn't join UKIP, he will face a tough battle in Rochdale because never mind what the media's latest polls say, the people are with UKIP all over the place.

"Danczuk said the Ukip leader was “probably the most successful politician of 2014” because of his party’s election victories. “He has had a good year in the European elections, the local elections, overtaking the Liberal Democrats in the opinion polls.

“Whether you like it or not they are the third party in British politics. Some people in the mainstream parties needed to wake up to this some time ago. The reality is it’s four-party politics.”

He said the need to address the rise of Ukip had helped Labour focus on immigration again. “People often talk about Ukip having halted (David) Cameron’s modernisation programme , but I think it’s also interesting to reflect on how Ukip has impacted on the Labour party."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/21/simon-danczuk-labour-ukip-nigel-farage-denies

UKIP has changed British politics. It's way too early to write them off yet. Gaffes and smears won't stop them. Cameron hasn't got enough kitchen sinks to stop them. The election is only 5 months away, there is panic in elite circles, think tanks are on overtime, spinners are doing their worst, it's going to be one hell of a ride.

Danczuk has stated publicly that he will not defect. I don't want any more defectors, even a token Labour one.

There is huge social tension in Europe. More than I have noticed since the Winter of Discontent, and that discontent was confined to the UK.

There were protests in Brussels this week outside the EU building to demonstrate against TTIP. Also this week has seen 2 separate attacks on pedestrians in a France by drivers and that will increase tension and probably add to Le Penns popularity. In Dresden Pegida had 17,500 turn out tonight for their regular Monday night protest against the Islamisation of Germany. I find this all very worrying. The last thing that the EU should be doing is adding to that social tension by admitting more countries. It should be looking for ways to increase social cohesion, not attempting to disrupt the emerging status quo again.

'The Winter of Discontent' was different, as the UK throughout the 1970's saw manufacturing/industry fall from around 29% of our economy to 23% (when there was sod all else), we had rampant 20% ish interest rates and inflation, penal income tax rates starting at 32%, Corporate Tax at 50% and too many lost days of wages/production/services - so we were known as 'the sick man in Europe', by a Europe having none of the above, and better honking weather.

When Labour & UK Trade Unions last ‘shared’ power and didn’t have the same priorities = Thatcher.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

“The Winter of Discontent refers to the winter of 1978–79 in the United Kingdom, during which there were widespread strikes by public sector trade unions demanding larger pay rises, following the ongoing pay caps of the Labour Party government led by James Callaghan against Trades Union Congress opposition to control inflation, during the coldest winter for 16 years.”

“The strikes were a result of the Labour government's attempt to control inflation by a forced departure from their social contract with the unions by imposing rules on the public sector that pay rises be kept below 5%, to control inflation in itself and as an example to the private sector.”

"Social cohesion" I'd suggest was why we thought joining the EU, as pathetically thought to be a painless solution to becoming as competitive as large parts of Europe e.g Germany, then kicking our industrial ass.

Social cohesion" slips in any recession, never mind the longest/deepest since the 1930's and before - as jobs, services, earnings (real and nominal) all suffer - and while the over regulated and uncompetitive EU works in a boom, being an over regulated and uncompetitive entity in a honking great slump, makes it harder to compete in a currently tight, competitive, marketplace.

And NOW look at Germany, who since the 2nd WW invited millions of Turkish workers into Germany that helped CREATE their economic miracle – and a far Right party, who funny old world, PROCLAIM THAT THEY ARE “THE PEOPLE”.

Germany anti-Islam protests:17,000 march on Dresden against 'Islamification of the West'
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-antiislam-protests-17000-march-on-dresden-against-islamification-of-the-west-9941656.html

”Supports of Pegida – a growing group calling itself the “Patriotic Europeans against the Islamification of the West” – filled the city’s historic square singing Christmas carols and waving German flags on Monday.”

”Its leaders have been dismissed as “Nazis in pinstripes” and the group’s rise has coincided with arson attacks on refugee hostels and the daubing of swastikas on city walls, but the controversy has not dissuaded supporters.”

“We are the people,” a post on the group’s Facebook page proclaimed after Monday’s protest, claiming a record attendance of more than 20,000 people.