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Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

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claig · 10/12/2014 17:51

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

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claig · 23/12/2014 18:23

The reason they have banners saying "We are the people", "wir sind das Volk" is because they are East Germans and that is what East Germans chanted against the Communist system just before the Berlin Wall came down.

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WetAugust · 23/12/2014 21:19

I fully understand the Winter of Discontent. It lived through it. I remember an overwhelming feeling in the country of relief when Thatcher got in, and I was working with some pretty left wing people at the time. The country seemed to sense that Labour could not go in bring held to ransom by the unions.

I've been watching the PEGIDA situation since Oct when it started with a few hundred protestors. Last night's as the largest yet in Dresden, the other cities have suspended their protests over Christmas.

Heath knew exactly what he was doing when he took us into the 'Common Market' the lying scumbag. He knew its ultimate aim was political union. Great decision from a fuckwit who had nothing invested in the next generation.

Are these pro -EU people so arrogant that they think their descendants will be totally unaffected by the expansion of the EU to accommodate new countries such as Turkey. Di they hate British culture so much that they don't care whether it's diluted out of existence by an pan-European identity?

Twenty years ago I would have said that British values were political stability, imperviousness to corruption, sense of fairness and consideration to others, meritocratic ......

These are all positives that have, or are rapidly disappearing.

Isitmebut · 24/12/2014 10:25

WetAugust ... prior to 2010 I'd agree with you on the corruption of a UK government, full of highly paid quango apparatchiks, raising the costs, red tape, bureaucracy, of governing, like a mini EU.

But a lot has been achieved over the past 5-years, taking the UK back from having morphed into an uncompetitive, unbalance, economic lump - for our children's children to pay for, in less services/pensions and higher taxes, than we have now.

This is the same Chua Umunna refinding Labour religion at Xmas, denying to a Conservative on the Daily Politics last week, that Labour’s legacy handed over to the coalition was somewhat iffy.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2766413/Gordon-Brown-gave-Chuka-Umunna-hairdryer-treatment-blistering-phone-call-interview-criticising-former-PM-s-record.html

”The former Prime Minister told Mr Umunna that he should not accept Tory claims that Labour was spending too much before the last general election, a senior Labour source revealed.”

”The source said: ‘He still cannot accept Labour was running a structural deficit. Even after all this time he won’t accept that he was wrong – it’s unbelievable.’

”The deficit – the difference between Government spending and how much it raises in taxes each year – was more than £160 billion in 2010.”

The Coalition has talked about ‘rebalancing the economy’ since 2010, look at the FORTH chart on this Bloomberg link below – where from 2001, growth in the governments payroll (public sector) significantly outgrew the employment of the rest of the economy (private sector) PAYING for that fat government and all our services e.g. the NHS.
www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-12-22/uks-holiday-cheer-in-four-charts

Looking at 2008 on the graph, when our GDP FELL over 7% and private sector employment seemed to fall off a cliff, the private sector employment ROSE a similar amount as if to compensate.

What economic common sense is that, unless it wasn’t; were new Labour trying to massage the figures ahead of an election when Brown was looking to become a P.M. from the ballot box, rather than a shady deal with Blair in a restaurant prior to 1997, brokered by John Prescott?

Or having run out of private sector donors, New Labour needed the public sector trade unions to finance their 2010 General Election – as trade unions did, contributing around 90% of their war chest.

How was a 2010 new Old Labour administration EVER going to balance the budget and not go the way of Greece, if all public spending they refused (as now) to tell you what they’ll cut – UNLESS funded by new massive tax rises on the masses to pay for it, we will finally see AFTER the 2015 General Election.

In other words, the only different between Labour handing over a broken economy to Thatcher in 1979, to the broken economy Labour handed over to Cameron in 2010, was that the UK public had already SEEN the penal tax rates funding their inability to run a competitive economy.

P.S. If the likes on trade union baron Len Mclusky(?) of Unite thought cutting a 2010 £157 billion annual overspend was “austerity”, what do you think he’ll think about further Labour government 2015 attempts for the UK to live within it’s means with an annual £90-100 billion budget deficit?

A 2015/6 ‘Summer of Discontent’, or a weak Miliband caving in and spending our way to Greece?

WetAugust · 24/12/2014 15:21

So who's going to pay Labour's GE costs this time as theyve lost some large donors and their membership is down?

If they get in (and it's looking likely as all the other minority parties are queuing uo to say they would join a Labour coalition) it will go one of 2 ways: they'll either go back to excess public spending, the country will be bankrupted and IMF will get invloved (Gold help us) or they follow the austery route, disappoint their supporters and are out after one term like Cameron.

I'm strating to think I need my money in bricks and mortar as I fear a Greek-style raid on my savings.

Isitmebut · 24/12/2014 16:06

It can only be the Trade Unions funding a similar percentage as the last general election, Miliband has made few business friend since.

In fact as every policy involves bashing a business i.e. builders, every BTL landlord, tobacco and every SME in the kingdom if tries to hike National Insurance at every opportunity, he may have lost business money.

Labour called in the IMF in 1976, which is probably why they were (told) to reign in spending, hence The Winter of Discontent.

Of course from 2015 Labour will borrow more, they have said so, as only wish to attempt to balance CURRENT spending, telling us (like the Brown scam) they will only borrow to invest - but as they cannot control current spending, it HAS to mean higher taxation to the masses, as bashing the rich further than Osborne since 2010, ain't going to raise much.

Housing Stamp Tax and Council Tax rises were meant to hit the middle to upper class aspirationals hardest, that is what this Mansion Tax is all about.

Moreover Labour, the SNP, the Welsh Wales PC, the Greens and most of the Lib Dems will sing from the same 2015 socialist song sheet - hit businesses and higher taxes to all, to maintain spending, as cutting a £90-£100 bil deficit is called "austerity" - which pathetically they say 'has not worked', despite the fact taxes fell, not rose e.g. NI (Osborne reversed) and loads spent to help SME's and larger businesses, pensioners etc etc.

Those parties do not understand how to create private sector jobs, only 100% tax funded public sector ones, so from 2015, none of them will be a counterbalance to Ballsian government spending 'growf', until too late..

WetAugust · 24/12/2014 20:50

I can't disagree with any of that Isitmebut. It's quite depressing, especially when you think that it's not even 5 years ago since they left the note in the Treasury telling the Tories that there was no money left.

What short memories people have to be considering voting Labour again.

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